But my biggest problem with the Honeywells was the UI and inflexibility of the scheduling program.
The Prestige is an entirely different animal from past Honeywell thermostats. I rarely use the manual or even consider it. In contrast to the Nest, which has a screwy (literally and figuratively) UI (punchy, too) everything on the Prestige is touch screen with color highlights, is far better organized, and is easier to use than previous Honeywells. (And better/easier than Nest!)
With the Nest, I had nearly all the flexibility I wanted out of the box and with the new advanced fan control in v3.5, they pretty much have solved any nitpick I could ever have. With the Nest's classic UI, my mother or any babysitter can easily change the temp without having to figure the things out first.
Changing the temperature is ridiculously easy on probably any thermostat, no? but in that regard, the Nest offers no clues as to how the temperature should be adjusted, whereas the Prestige has up- and down-arrows to push. With the Prestige, even my technologically challenged wife can adjust the fan.
And I love that they are thinking of stuff I'd never considered. V3.5 compensates for direct sunlight throwing off the temp gauge? Really? That's ultra cool...not a problem for me personally but I imagine it's a big deal in some homes.
And Cspro, I hope that the Prestige unit from Honeywell is working for you. But Honeywell lost me when the previous gen units lacked of great industrial design (ironic since the Honeywell round was one of the great designs of the 20th century), limited and inflexible programming, and just plain lack of imagination.
Clearly you haven't seen the Prestige and all of the accessories available that make it far more powerful than Nest 1.0 and 2.0 will ever be. Much of Nest's imaginative powers are dedicated to getting around Honeywell patents, Honeywell has been that imaginative all along.
Sure, I could have gotten by with a Nest, but its "intelligence" simply wasn't and the Prestige offered extra capabilities that were too numerous and good to pass up.
By the way, there's a reason contractors try not to install thermostats in sunlit areas, just as outdoor thermometers are usually placed in shady areas. It will be interesting to hear from the rare Nest owners who do have sunlit thermostats, though, just how well the Sunblock temperature control works.
I never heard that before. MIne is a first generation and it has never had a single issue.
You're lucky. You haven't heard it because they have kept it under wraps pretty well. I went through 4 gen 1 units. Each lasted between 1-3 months. Nothing wrong with my *virtually new* A/C system. It's a short coming with their thermostat. They said that they are testing a new design that will hopefully fix the defects. I'm on a waiting list for when that updated design becomes available.
It's a great thermostat (when it works). Be warned, when it fails (and it will), it can cause damage to your A/C system. Or cause your power bill to shoot up hundreds by activating AUX heat during A/C use. Or the temp reading will drastically change.
It will be cool when Nest supports remote WiFi temperature sensors outside your own house so it will have more exact readings of your local weather. Granted the internet lookup weather is not terrible either...
I do wish Nest would release a Mac Menu-bar app...
Got my 3.5 firmware yesterday -- love the new features. Odd that it seemed to update itself -- I seem to remember having to manually approve an update in the past. Perhaps this was considered more of a minor update.
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Did you update the nest thermostats and the iOS app?
All the more reason to want one. I haven't convinced my wife to get one yet. All in good time though.
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Originally Posted by Sevenfeet
But my biggest problem with the Honeywells was the UI and inflexibility of the scheduling program.
The Prestige is an entirely different animal from past Honeywell thermostats. I rarely use the manual or even consider it. In contrast to the Nest, which has a screwy (literally and figuratively) UI (punchy, too) everything on the Prestige is touch screen with color highlights, is far better organized, and is easier to use than previous Honeywells. (And better/easier than Nest!)
With the Nest, I had nearly all the flexibility I wanted out of the box and with the new advanced fan control in v3.5, they pretty much have solved any nitpick I could ever have. With the Nest's classic UI, my mother or any babysitter can easily change the temp without having to figure the things out first.
Changing the temperature is ridiculously easy on probably any thermostat, no? but in that regard, the Nest offers no clues as to how the temperature should be adjusted, whereas the Prestige has up- and down-arrows to push. With the Prestige, even my technologically challenged wife can adjust the fan.
And I love that they are thinking of stuff I'd never considered. V3.5 compensates for direct sunlight throwing off the temp gauge? Really? That's ultra cool...not a problem for me personally but I imagine it's a big deal in some homes.
And Cspro, I hope that the Prestige unit from Honeywell is working for you. But Honeywell lost me when the previous gen units lacked of great industrial design (ironic since the Honeywell round was one of the great designs of the 20th century), limited and inflexible programming, and just plain lack of imagination.
Clearly you haven't seen the Prestige and all of the accessories available that make it far more powerful than Nest 1.0 and 2.0 will ever be. Much of Nest's imaginative powers are dedicated to getting around Honeywell patents, Honeywell has been that imaginative all along.
Sure, I could have gotten by with a Nest, but its "intelligence" simply wasn't and the Prestige offered extra capabilities that were too numerous and good to pass up.
By the way, there's a reason contractors try not to install thermostats in sunlit areas, just as outdoor thermometers are usually placed in shady areas. It will be interesting to hear from the rare Nest owners who do have sunlit thermostats, though, just how well the Sunblock temperature control works.
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Originally Posted by digitalclips
I never heard that before. MIne is a first generation and it has never had a single issue.
You're lucky. You haven't heard it because they have kept it under wraps pretty well. I went through 4 gen 1 units. Each lasted between 1-3 months. Nothing wrong with my *virtually new* A/C system. It's a short coming with their thermostat. They said that they are testing a new design that will hopefully fix the defects. I'm on a waiting list for when that updated design becomes available.
It's a great thermostat (when it works). Be warned, when it fails (and it will), it can cause damage to your A/C system. Or cause your power bill to shoot up hundreds by activating AUX heat during A/C use. Or the temp reading will drastically change.
It will be cool when Nest supports remote WiFi temperature sensors outside your own house so it will have more exact readings of your local weather. Granted the internet lookup weather is not terrible either...
I do wish Nest would release a Mac Menu-bar app...
Got my 3.5 firmware yesterday -- love the new features. Odd that it seemed to update itself -- I seem to remember having to manually approve an update in the past. Perhaps this was considered more of a minor update.