Philips Hue bulbs get smarter with geofencing, 'If This Then That' customization

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in iPhone edited January 2014
A major software update for Philips' Hue app brings an enhanced user experience to the multi-colored connected LED lighting system, granting owners location-based control of bulb settings, support for the "If This Then That" Internet automation service, and recurring "calendarized" scheduling.

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The new Philips Hue app, announced on Tuesday, adds a much greater level of customization to the smart LED lighting system. When paired with the Hue bridge and bulbs, the application allows iOS and Android devices to access any application programming interface on the Internet to adjust the lights.

The new update allows Hue smart bulbs to act as "informational gateways," providing visual cues related to data such as weather, stock prices, sports scores, e-mail, social media and more. These settings can be customized with a new Philips Huge channel on If This Then That.

Version 1.1 of the official Hue application also adds geofencing support, which allows the system to track a user's location. With this capability, the Hue can automatically turn the lights on or off when a person arrives at or leaves their home, all without the need to take the iPhone out of their pocket.

The update also adds the ability to program recurring schedules to the Hue, allowing users to more easily create repetitive daily behaviors. Lights can be programmed to gradually become brighter and wake a user up, or dim at night when it's time for bed.

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Users can also randomize their lights with the timer function. This allows the bulbs to "organically" switch on and off when a user is away from home, making it appear to outsiders that someone is actually there.

Finally, Philips has also added a new "synchronous scenes" feature that assures all Hue light bulbs change "scenes" in a smooth, immediate manner. Pre-set scenes are now stored in the bulbs themselves, eliminating the domino effect that previously occurred when multiple bulbs received a command.

"People have really taken to Hue with the idea of connected lighting being a stepping stone to the connected home and in the last six months alone it has exceeded sales expectations by 300 percent," said Ed Crawford, general manager and senior vice president of the Professional Channel, Philips Lighting Americas. "We have built a vibrant, vocal community at everyhue.com and the feedback of those voices has been invaluable. The guidance given by our most enthusiastic users was a major factor in bringing our latest updates to life and we can?t wait to see what they think of next."



Philips Hue bulbs debuted last year exclusively at Apple retail stores as part of a limited-time arrangement. Since then, availability has expanded to other retailers such as Amazon, which now offers both the $199 starter pack and individual bulbs for $60 each.

An official Hue software development kit was also released by Philips in March, allowing app makers to integrate the lighting solution into third-party products. One application that takes advantage of Hue is Ambify, a real-world music visualizer which changes the color of Hue bulbs based on the music being played from an iOS device.
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  • Reply 1 of 29
    timbittimbit Posts: 331member
    This would be great for deaf people. Could set it up so they know if they received a text or a FaceTime call is coming through. Very neat idea!
  • Reply 2 of 29
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    timbit wrote: »
    This would be great for deaf people. Could set it up so they know if they received a text or a FaceTime call is coming through. Very neat idea!

    I'm all for automating the home but until I read your post I couldn't conceive of a single useful thing this could do.
  • Reply 3 of 29
    muppetrymuppetry Posts: 3,331member

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    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post




    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Timbit View Post



    This would be great for deaf people. Could set it up so they know if they received a text or a FaceTime call is coming through. Very neat idea!




    I'm all for automating the home but until I read your post I couldn't conceive of a single useful thing this could do.


     


    An interesting idea, but presumably only useful at home and at night, and thus won't replace whatever alert (vibration?) is used elsewhere and during the rest of the day.

  • Reply 4 of 29
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    muppetry wrote: »
    An interesting idea, but presumably only useful at home and at night, and thus won't replace whatever alert (vibration?) is used elsewhere and during the rest of the day.

    Sure, but it does allow for all lights in the house to change color if a door bell is pressed. Even during the day I think that would be noticeable. I think the deaf currently use such devices already, but that aren't integrated into the home's natural decor.
  • Reply 5 of 29
    muppetrymuppetry Posts: 3,331member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post




    Quote:

    Originally Posted by muppetry View Post



    An interesting idea, but presumably only useful at home and at night, and thus won't replace whatever alert (vibration?) is used elsewhere and during the rest of the day.




    Sure, but it does allow for all lights in the house to change color if a door bell is pressed. Even during the day I think that would be noticeable. I think the deaf currently use such devices already, but that aren't integrated into the home's natural decor.


     


    Maybe so, although if the doorbell made your cell phone vibrate that might be even more functional.

  • Reply 6 of 29
    cpsrocpsro Posts: 3,198member


    I recently noticed Hues are also controllable and programmable via the MiCasaVerde Z-wave home automation controller, using a free Hue app plugin that's received 5-star reviews.

  • Reply 7 of 29
    elmoofoelmoofo Posts: 100member
    App Store finally showed the update 4 hours after this article went live at 12:01. Sounds like a sponsored article to me.
  • Reply 8 of 29
    drblankdrblank Posts: 3,385member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cpsro View Post


    I recently noticed Hues are also controllable and programmable via the MiCasaVerde Z-wave home automation controller, using a free Hue app plugin that's received 5-star reviews.



    Savant Systems also can work with these for those that have a high end budget and want to do more elaborate systems.

  • Reply 9 of 29
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    Great: more gimmicky features, and more complexity.

    I WANT CHEAP WIRELESS SIMPLICITY. Still no company provides this. Heck, if you forget about price we're still at a loss. I don't need mood lighting, I don't need colours (I actually deliberately don't want colours, even if it costs zero to add them. Read: simplicity not complexity), I don't need music-sensitive lighting, I don't need gimmicks, I barely need any features at all.

    Here's what I want in a wireless lighting system: Wifi, every bulb should have master capable hardware (i.e. there should be no master bulb. Read: simplicity not complexity), simple, well design software, setting up a new bulb should be just about as easy as putting in a regular bulb, physical light switches should still work as expected (software should allow for this), even setting up the first bulb you buy just after downloading the app should be up and running in 15 seconds with no geek required (it literally should be a case of popping in the bulb opening the app and typing in your wifi password), no base station hardware (comically called a bridge), the bulb should be the only hardware, just like the current solution.

    The first company to provide this has my business. End of discussion. I've seen all the solutions out there, including LifX: they all suck!
  • Reply 10 of 29
    planktonplankton Posts: 108member


    Philips—an 80% price cut would help too.


    These lights are still FAR too expensive to be anything more than a nerd gimmick. If we really want to cut energy consumption with smart LED bulbs, they need to be not more than $5 each so that most people can use them for most lighting.


    I changed a lot of my lighting over to the plain white LED bulbs but even the most expensive brands like Panasonic (now about $10) do not last ANYTHING like the advertised 40,000+ hours. At about $5 each I wouldn't mind too much if they fail early but at $80 a pop I surely would be very pissed.

  • Reply 11 of 29
    freediverxfreediverx Posts: 1,423member
    Much simpler and less expensive options exist. $60 per bulb is pretty ridiculous.

    http://www.limitlessled.com/product-category/limitlessled-smart-light-bulbs/

  • Reply 12 of 29
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    freediverx wrote: »
    Much simpler and less expensive options exist. $60 per bulb is pretty ridiculous.

    http://www.limitlessled.com/product-category/limitlessled-smart-light-bulbs/

    This is closer to what I'm looking for, but not there. I particularly like the option of purchasing white bulbs. And obviously the price is appealing. $16 for a white bulb. This is a good starting price for this relatively new tech. The existence of the bridge sucks, however. And I don't want to hear someone saying it's not possible without a bridge. LifX (a product I'm not fond of for other reasons) has no bridge hardware.

    But sadly it's around $100 to get a starter kit shipped to Ireland, which essentially consists of 2 bulbs. I don't count the bridge for reasons I've stated, and I would use the app.

    Check out what happens if I order 1 white Limitless bulb:

    25034
  • Reply 13 of 29
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,951member
    At $60 a bulb, and they claim it's selling, I guess someone has to have their gadgets. There's always a niche market for something. I only want warm white.

    I still haven't bought an bulb replacement style LED light, it seems too much more money for too little of an improvement. I've retrofit fixtures for linear fluorescent bulbs to LED for not much more than the cost of replacing the bulbs and ballasts, which they needed anyway.
  • Reply 14 of 29
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    jeffdm wrote: »
    At $60 a bulb, and they claim it's selling, I guess someone has to have their gadgets. There's always a niche market for something. I only want warm white.

    I still haven't bought an bulb replacement style LED light, it seems too much more money for too little of an improvement.

    Spoken like a true Apple man.
  • Reply 15 of 29
    jeffdmjeffdm Posts: 12,951member
    ireland wrote: »
    Spoken like a true Apple man.

    .....
  • Reply 16 of 29
    ankleskaterankleskater Posts: 1,287member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post



    Great: more gimmicky features, and more complexity.



    I WANT CHEAP WIRELESS SIMPLICITY. Still no company provides this. Heck, if you forget about price we're still at a loss. I don't need mood lighting, I don't need colours (I actually deliberately don't want colours, even if it costs zero to add them. Read: simplicity not complexity), I don't need music-sensitive lighting, I don't need gimmicks, I barely need any features at all.



    Here's what I want in a wireless lighting system: Wifi, every bulb should have master capable hardware (i.e. there should be no master bulb. Read: simplicity not complexity), simple, well design software, setting up a new bulb should be just about as easy as putting in a regular bulb, physical light switches should still work as expected (software should allow for this), even setting up the first bulb you buy just after downloading the app should be up and running in 15 seconds with no geek required (it literally should be a case of popping in the bulb opening the app and typing in your wifi password), no base station hardware (comically called a bridge), the bulb should be the only hardware, just like the current solution.



    The first company to provide this has my business. End of discussion. I've seen all the solutions out there, including LifX: they all suck!


     


    Should? Why?

  • Reply 17 of 29
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member


    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

    Spoken like a true Apple man.


     


    I'll reply to your point: No bulb should have 'master' capability. All bulbs should be as stupid as humanly possible.


     


    1. I don't want to waste money on "smart" bulbs.


    2. The more tech in a bulb, the more tech is thrown away. We'll already have to uproot all of our landfills in 40 years, digging for that one last scrap of hafnium and any of the other metals used in computing out of which we're about to run; let's not make that day come any sooner.


    3. The more tech in a bulb, the more complex the network. Idiots have to use this, remember. Rather, idiots are the target market for these; let's make it usable for them.


     


    Replace the switch on the wall with an intelligent and precise system. That's how you do it. Buying stupid bulbs controlled intelligently is the way to go, and have it integrated with everything else.


     


    I can imagine an Apple-based system like this. Your friend comes over to AirPlay a movie to your Apple TV. As the movie loads, the lights in that room dim or shut off entirely, based on your setting. Pause it, they come back up.


     


    In general use, you could even set it to turn lights on and off as you walk through the house carrying your iDevice.

  • Reply 18 of 29
    irelandireland Posts: 17,798member
    I'll reply to your point: No bulb should have 'master' capability. All bulbs should be as stupid as humanly possible.

    1. I don't want to waste money on "smart" bulbs.
    2. The more tech in a bulb, the more tech is thrown away. We'll already have to uproot all of our landfills in 40 years, digging for that one last scrap of hafnium and any of the other metals used in computing out of which we're about to run; let's not make that day come any sooner.
    3. The more tech in a bulb, the more complex the network. Idiots have to use this, remember. Rather, idiots are the target market for these; let's make it usable for them.

    Replace the switch on the wall with an intelligent and precise system. That's how you do it. Buying stupid bulbs controlled intelligently is the way to go, and have it integrated with everything else.

    I can imagine an Apple-based system like this. Your friend comes over to AirPlay a movie to your Apple TV. As the movie loads, the lights in that room dim or shut off entirely, based on your setting. Pause it, they come back up.

    In general use, you could even set it to turn lights on and off as you walk through the house carrying your iDevice.

    What the hell are you talking about?
  • Reply 19 of 29


    This tech is now available.  The pricing that would include all of the features that you desire is still in the $150-$200 range.  However, once you have the 'base unit' in place, individual light bulbs are (relatively) inexpensive.  I'm referring to INSTEON technology.  Google INSTEON LED bulb and you'll find it.  It needs a hub in order to be wi-fi enabled, but otherwise it will communicate thru the INSTEON wireless protocol.


     


    You probably have already researched it, but I thought I'd send it your way anyways.

  • Reply 20 of 29
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member


    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post

    What the hell are you talking about?


     


    Smart bulbs. Why, what're you talking about?

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