Been travelling. At the airport, in the plane, on the shuttle to the car rental, all I see are iPhones, iPhones, and more iPhones. Where are all these Android smartphones that are supposed to be outselling iOS?
I do remember Samsung boasting that they shipped that tablet in millions, then under oath during theApple trial, they were forced to admit that sales were like 200 thou. Not sure about the numbers bui it was a ridiculously embarrassing disparity between shipped and sold.
I think they can make it much less messy by offering both a cultivated "walled garden" like Apple's App Store and still allow the post-apocolyptic Mad Max Beyond Android Dome environment of Google Play for those that want it.
What let's me confuse is that Samsung has money to buy whole industries, press, bloggers, internet trolls and Devs... But Apple doesn't do any of that. Why? What are they waiting for, really?
1 billion for the press and the stock gains 300 billion in a day. Sounds good.
The only way this is good for Google is if Samsung fails to get to developers to specifically target their phones. Otherwise, Google ends up being Samsung's bitch.
I don't think they'll pull an Amazon and develop, on their own, their own Android clone, unless they have to. Much better to let Google do their software development for them for free.
Sitting back and letting rivals upstage your company is never a wise thing.
Odo, my friend, rather than hurl ad-hominems at you, already plentifully hurled by others here, I'll merely suggest that sitting back and letting rivals define the game is even less wise than being upstaged. Better that Apple take it's time to prepare it's next move, and then you can bet the game will shift in accordance. So long as rivals are comparing their products to Apple, it makes Apple the de facto standard. An enviable position. Apple is smart to let Samsung have the spotlight, so long as they're comparing the Galaxy to iPhone.
What let's me confuse is that Samsung has money to buy whole industries, press, bloggers, internet trolls and Devs... But Apple doesn't do any of that. Why? What are they waiting for, really?
1 billion for the press and the stock gains 300 billion in a day. Sounds good.
What let's me confuse...? Huh?
IM(H)O, it's sad that Samsung "has money to buy whole industries, press, bloggers, internet trolls and Devs" and uses it thusly, instead of spending that money on innovation and design, to make a truly superior product. Or to make new product classes, where they can reign supreme without competitors (for a while).
Troll. Apple still has the number 1 selling phone. The only reason they allegedly grabbing media mindshare is they pay them.
And you're right, sitting on a cash pile doesn't do anyone any good. Then again you have no proof Apple isn't doing anything. I'm pretty sure Cook et al aren't swimming in a vault of gold coins.
Constable Odo is a long time AI troll. He appears now and then to drop one of his stink bombs and then scurries away, sort of like a DA_HARDER sock puppet. His comments are always about perception, not facts. Like others in his profession he presents the latest Phandroid talking points as established facts without any connection to reality. With his ilk it's all about how they want things to be rather than how they are. And they usually believe that repeating the talking points regularly will somehow make them true or at least convince someone that they are true.
The real interesting thing is how this phenomenon is an Apple thing. You typically don't see Apple fanboys dedicating their on-line lives to joining Android centric forums and spouting iOS rulez, Android is doomed nonsense. But these guys are drawn to sites like AI like flies to cow poop.
Think strategic, long-term at the issue. Let's return to yesterday of the 1990s and the desktop PC wars. Everything was MS/INTEL and the IBM/DELL manufacturers were all the rage. In two decades, these major market players have all become marginalized as their products became ubiquitous and non-differentiated, profits became flat and PC market tanked, save for the single-digit marginal player Apple, which combined a better design (non-pizza box) and software that appealed to a loyal following. The same thing with smart phones may be happening today. I am constantly barraged by Samsung ads in which there are a dozen types of nice looking competing smart phones and I am confused by all the alternatives. Sometimes too much choice and product diversification is not a good thing. Android should be tweaked, supported and maintained by each smart phone manufacturer, this way there could be a viable differentiation among the various smart phones- they all look and act alike in form and function kinda like the TV sets that are produced. Maybe if Google makes its own Motorola-Android system, it can break from the confusing Samsung pack.
You might not have understood how the changes announced at Google I/O addresses much if not most of the fragmentation issues. It's not a complete "fix" but it's a pretty good start.
So in essence, they're tinkering with stuff that's already ignored by people like Amazon and Barnes and Noble and other companies that deliberately use older and heavily customized versions of the Android OS. Isn't that akin to buying a kid a toy, then taking it away before you've even let them know you bought it? Are they going to tantrum? Or are they going to keep playing with their existing toys?
Can't wait to see the error message: "App not designed for this platform"
Way to go Samsung. Now you're showing your true colors that most of us here at AI long knew you had. Let's see how the whiny Fandroids spin this story.
I actually think its a good strategy on Samsung's part, because customized apps will provide better experience for their customers. Android is fragmented not only in its hardware, but also its software. There's so much junk and second rate apps in the Google Play store that its hard to tell which app works best with the device you're using.
And once apple becomes the de facto standard, there goes most of their IPs. It becomes SEP
De facto standard is not the same as standard. SEP become that when holders agree to it for the betterment of an industry and to reduce/eliminate tech confusion.
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I do remember Samsung boasting that they shipped that tablet in millions, then under oath during theApple trial, they were forced to admit that sales were like 200 thou. Not sure about the numbers bui it was a ridiculously embarrassing disparity between shipped and sold.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX
I think they can make it much less messy by offering both a cultivated "walled garden" like Apple's App Store and still allow the post-apocolyptic Mad Max Beyond Android Dome environment of Google Play for those that want it.
You watch a lot of movies don't you?
What let's me confuse is that Samsung has money to buy whole industries, press, bloggers, internet trolls and Devs... But Apple doesn't do any of that. Why? What are they waiting for, really?
1 billion for the press and the stock gains 300 billion in a day. Sounds good.
The only way this is good for Google is if Samsung fails to get to developers to specifically target their phones. Otherwise, Google ends up being Samsung's bitch.
I don't think they'll pull an Amazon and develop, on their own, their own Android clone, unless they have to. Much better to let Google do their software development for them for free.
personal attack much?
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Originally Posted by Constable Odo
Sitting back and letting rivals upstage your company is never a wise thing.
Odo, my friend, rather than hurl ad-hominems at you, already plentifully hurled by others here, I'll merely suggest that sitting back and letting rivals define the game is even less wise than being upstaged. Better that Apple take it's time to prepare it's next move, and then you can bet the game will shift in accordance. So long as rivals are comparing their products to Apple, it makes Apple the de facto standard. An enviable position. Apple is smart to let Samsung have the spotlight, so long as they're comparing the Galaxy to iPhone.
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Originally Posted by pedromartins
What let's me confuse is that Samsung has money to buy whole industries, press, bloggers, internet trolls and Devs... But Apple doesn't do any of that. Why? What are they waiting for, really?
1 billion for the press and the stock gains 300 billion in a day. Sounds good.
What let's me confuse...? Huh?
IM(H)O, it's sad that Samsung "has money to buy whole industries, press, bloggers, internet trolls and Devs" and uses it thusly, instead of spending that money on innovation and design, to make a truly superior product. Or to make new product classes, where they can reign supreme without competitors (for a while).
Originally Posted by bleh1234
And once apple becomes the de facto standard, there goes most of their IPs. It becomes SEP
Uh… what?
I clearly remember this and in no way just created it.
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Originally Posted by jungmark
Troll. Apple still has the number 1 selling phone. The only reason they allegedly grabbing media mindshare is they pay them.
And you're right, sitting on a cash pile doesn't do anyone any good. Then again you have no proof Apple isn't doing anything. I'm pretty sure Cook et al aren't swimming in a vault of gold coins.
Constable Odo is a long time AI troll. He appears now and then to drop one of his stink bombs and then scurries away, sort of like a DA_HARDER sock puppet. His comments are always about perception, not facts. Like others in his profession he presents the latest Phandroid talking points as established facts without any connection to reality. With his ilk it's all about how they want things to be rather than how they are. And they usually believe that repeating the talking points regularly will somehow make them true or at least convince someone that they are true.
The real interesting thing is how this phenomenon is an Apple thing. You typically don't see Apple fanboys dedicating their on-line lives to joining Android centric forums and spouting iOS rulez, Android is doomed nonsense. But these guys are drawn to sites like AI like flies to cow poop.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
You might not have understood how the changes announced at Google I/O addresses much if not most of the fragmentation issues. It's not a complete "fix" but it's a pretty good start.
http://ishouldhaveknownthisbefore.wordpress.com/2013/05/16/google-solved-android-fragmentation-and-forgot-to-tell-everybody/
So in essence, they're tinkering with stuff that's already ignored by people like Amazon and Barnes and Noble and other companies that deliberately use older and heavily customized versions of the Android OS. Isn't that akin to buying a kid a toy, then taking it away before you've even let them know you bought it? Are they going to tantrum? Or are they going to keep playing with their existing toys?
Can't wait to see the error message: "App not designed for this platform"
Way to go Samsung. Now you're showing your true colors that most of us here at AI long knew you had. Let's see how the whiny Fandroids spin this story.
No we watch a lot of movies and since we're all him he knows what we know.
I actually think its a good strategy on Samsung's part, because customized apps will provide better experience for their customers. Android is fragmented not only in its hardware, but also its software. There's so much junk and second rate apps in the Google Play store that its hard to tell which app works best with the device you're using.
De facto standard is not the same as standard. SEP become that when holders agree to it for the betterment of an industry and to reduce/eliminate tech confusion.