That's great, and should be the default, but before iOS 7 ships, let us turn it off, and/or revert to older app versions.
Too many games that I pad for went free later and either added ads, or else make you pay again by IAP to unlock to same content I bought with the app to begin with. I understand the dilemmas faced by developers--it's not always easy to pay the rent--but that's not cool! So I read the update reviews and skip those updates.
In all fairness this is something that only techie types care about at all. It's also something that requires a significant amount of "managing" to the point that even for that small techie group, it's mostly a losing game.
Just relax and let the people that write the apps control their own apps. Then vote with your dollars.
The only problem is sometimes you have to vote with those dollars BEFORE they downgrade your app. How do you take back your vote after a bait and switch?
person that is not complete moron would know the feature had to do everything with infrastructure and bandwidth at Apple sites. Same person would also know this is not really a heartbreaking feature.
It could easily have been given the option to only auto-update when on wifi.
It could easily have been given the option to only auto-update when on wifi.
Even that is not good enough because a person could be on untrusted free unencrypted wifi (stupid but possible) and by entering your Apple ID it could be snagged by a hacker. Which BTW don't some updates require a password? How does that work automatically?
I actually misunderstood the original story, because I didn't realize iPhones apps couldn't auto-update. I just thought McCain -- infamous for his techno-cluelessness in 2008 -- was complaining because of the automatic updates streaming in and installing themselves (which can be a distraction, if minor). I'd assumed that iPhones, like others, had been auto-updating their apps all along. Learn something new every day. Hopefully.
I think the confusion is in the terminolgy: they DO "auto-update", they just ask permission first. Now that will all be done in the background with permission granted being the default.
That asking for permission is what McCain was complaining about, he, like many, aren't happy about being "nagged", and Apple is very active in having apps update.
Even when Congress was drilling Apple, Apple would not give up secrets, It would have been easy for Cook to say to McCain it is coming in the next release. Apple true to form,
This BETTER darn well be an option and not forced. What stops developers from just removing features willy nilly now? What stops them from injecting monitoring code now?
What the hell does he know about auto updates, and if that's a good thing or not?
As for me, I was happy with the way that the system already works. The user updates when they want to. I can think of certain situations where forced updates is undesirable. Politicians in general don't know crap about technology, and they should stick to what they do best, which usually involves some sort of lying to the American people, wasting money and pushing through laws that are bad for Americans.
This BETTER darn well be an option and not forced. What stops developers from just removing features willy nilly now? What stops them from injecting monitoring code now?
How appropriate that Mac OS X has been renamed to Mavericks. And Apple is lighting-up the Google Trends display today... "AAPL", "iOS 7", "Mac Pro", "MacRumors"
What the hell does he know about auto updates, and if that's a good thing or not?
As for me, I was happy with the way that the system already works. The user updates when they want to. I can think of certain situations where forced updates is undesirable. Politicians in general don't know crap about technology, and they should stick to what they do best, which usually involves some sort of lying to the American people, wasting money and pushing through laws that are bad for Americans.
When you have minions doing everything for you up to and including cutting the crust off your bread having to actually hit a button to authorize app updates is just too much of a burden you see.
person that is not complete moron would know the feature had to do everything with infrastructure and bandwidth at Apple sites. Same person would also know this is not really a heartbreaking feature.
i'm a "not complete moron" and i don't know that. how do you "know" that? or are you assuming? do you have a source that corroborates your claim?
Even that is not good enough because a person could be on untrusted free unencrypted wifi (stupid but possible) and by entering your Apple ID it could be snagged by a hacker. Which BTW don't some updates require a password? How does that work automatically?
Encryption is the job of the devices, not the pipeline. If apple encrypts the signal between device and server then nobody listening in between those two points will get any useable data.
And no, I don't think I've been asked for a password to update apps since I upgraded to iOS 6.
Using a 1st-gen (June 2012) Retina 15" and this works okay on a new partition. Do NOT install on your current drive (meaning... update from 10.6-10.8) because like iOS 7, this is fairly difficult to work on unless you are not a power-user. I just installed iOS 7 on my iPhone 5 and half of the App Store apps (iWork, new games, Facebook, YouTube, etc.) don't open after install. Very buggy gestures, taps that don't register, crashing from apps... don't waste your time with that. I'd wait another three months for a September release. I can confirm that unlike iOS 7, the Mavericks DP1 does not need a developer account as you don't "register" for verified activation like you would on an iOS device.
A brief first-look at this: As this is a beta, there ARE indeed compatibility issues (Office does not work at all, Adobe software is sluggish and slow and sometimes, there are little graphical glitches occurring across the screen, as all expected from a beta). I highly suggest that you refrain from using this as your main operating system unless you ABSOLUTELY must need the iBooks and Maps functionality. Otherwise, a quarter of the functionalities don't work properly... it's just for developing Mac Apps and messing with system files. Unless you need either of these options, stick with whatever you currently have (Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion). Not worth it, in my opinion.
person that is not complete moron would know the feature had to do everything with infrastructure and bandwidth at Apple sites. Same person would also know this is not really a heartbreaking feature.
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Originally Posted by nagromme
That's great, and should be the default, but before iOS 7 ships, let us turn it off, and/or revert to older app versions.
Too many games that I pad for went free later and either added ads, or else make you pay again by IAP to unlock to same content I bought with the app to begin with. I understand the dilemmas faced by developers--it's not always easy to pay the rent--but that's not cool! So I read the update reviews and skip those updates.
In all fairness this is something that only techie types care about at all. It's also something that requires a significant amount of "managing" to the point that even for that small techie group, it's mostly a losing game.
Just relax and let the people that write the apps control their own apps. Then vote with your dollars.
The only problem is sometimes you have to vote with those dollars BEFORE they downgrade your app. How do you take back your vote after a bait and switch?
It could easily have been given the option to only auto-update when on wifi.
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Originally Posted by dasanman69
It could easily have been given the option to only auto-update when on wifi.
Even that is not good enough because a person could be on untrusted free unencrypted wifi (stupid but possible) and by entering your Apple ID it could be snagged by a hacker. Which BTW don't some updates require a password? How does that work automatically?
The perfect solution will be to let user select which apps can be automatic updated.
The moment I heard that feature I thought of the senator! good for him.
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Originally Posted by ks2problema
I actually misunderstood the original story, because I didn't realize iPhones apps couldn't auto-update. I just thought McCain -- infamous for his techno-cluelessness in 2008 -- was complaining because of the automatic updates streaming in and installing themselves (which can be a distraction, if minor). I'd assumed that iPhones, like others, had been auto-updating their apps all along. Learn something new every day. Hopefully.
I think the confusion is in the terminolgy: they DO "auto-update", they just ask permission first. Now that will all be done in the background with permission granted being the default.
That asking for permission is what McCain was complaining about, he, like many, aren't happy about being "nagged", and Apple is very active in having apps update.
Even when Congress was drilling Apple, Apple would not give up secrets, It would have been easy for Cook to say to McCain it is coming in the next release. Apple true to form,
This BETTER darn well be an option and not forced. What stops developers from just removing features willy nilly now? What stops them from injecting monitoring code now?
Isn't John McCain the technologically illiterate person who never uses email and is not even online? That was the case at least a few years ago.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2403704/John-McCain-technology-illiterate-doesnt-email-or-use-internet.html
What the hell does he know about auto updates, and if that's a good thing or not?
As for me, I was happy with the way that the system already works. The user updates when they want to. I can think of certain situations where forced updates is undesirable. Politicians in general don't know crap about technology, and they should stick to what they do best, which usually involves some sort of lying to the American people, wasting money and pushing through laws that are bad for Americans.
Updates still go through the approval process.
Originally Posted by jungmark
Updates still go through the approval process.
And the approval process is fine with taking away functionality.
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And the approval process is fine with taking away functionality.
And with the developer installing ads.
That's the primary reason why I don't let some apps update themselves.
(On Android, you can set auto-update permissions per app.)
And Apple is lighting-up the Google Trends display today... "AAPL", "iOS 7", "Mac Pro", "MacRumors"
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Isn't John McCain the technologically illiterate person who never uses email and is not even online? That was the case at least a few years ago.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/johnmccain/2403704/John-McCain-technology-illiterate-doesnt-email-or-use-internet.html
What the hell does he know about auto updates, and if that's a good thing or not?
As for me, I was happy with the way that the system already works. The user updates when they want to. I can think of certain situations where forced updates is undesirable. Politicians in general don't know crap about technology, and they should stick to what they do best, which usually involves some sort of lying to the American people, wasting money and pushing through laws that are bad for Americans.
When you have minions doing everything for you up to and including cutting the crust off your bread having to actually hit a button to authorize app updates is just too much of a burden you see.
i'm a "not complete moron" and i don't know that. how do you "know" that? or are you assuming? do you have a source that corroborates your claim?
Better late than never.
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Originally Posted by Pooch
i'm a "not complete moron" and i don't know that. how do you "know" that? or are you assuming? do you have a source that corroborates your claim?
where is source of your original claim? just a wild guess that Apple is just a bunch of outdated idiots? well, guess again...:)
Encryption is the job of the devices, not the pipeline. If apple encrypts the signal between device and server then nobody listening in between those two points will get any useable data.
And no, I don't think I've been asked for a password to update apps since I upgraded to iOS 6.
A brief first-look at this: As this is a beta, there ARE indeed compatibility issues (Office does not work at all, Adobe software is sluggish and slow and sometimes, there are little graphical glitches occurring across the screen, as all expected from a beta). I highly suggest that you refrain from using this as your main operating system unless you ABSOLUTELY must need the iBooks and Maps functionality. Otherwise, a quarter of the functionalities don't work properly... it's just for developing Mac Apps and messing with system files. Unless you need either of these options, stick with whatever you currently have (Snow Leopard to Mountain Lion). Not worth it, in my opinion.
wtf are you even talking about? are you high, drunk, or are you just a complete moron?
i did not make any original claim. do you even read the comments you're responding to?
you said "person that is not complete moron would know the feature had to do everything with infrastructure and bandwidth at Apple sites."
i'm asking you how you know, whether you have a source, or if you're just assuming.
just say no to bath salts.