I thought maybe they had Siri stop giving responses such as, "Wow, that was a really stupid question, you should help clean up the gene pool by killing yourself."
She often says meaningless little phrases in passing before actually getting the answer. I think she does this just to mask the delay in getting the answer from the server.
"Okay, I'm on it."
"Let me think about that."
The other day I asked her for the basketball score and she said "Okay sports fan." before getting the score.
The other day I asked her for the basketball score and she said "Okay sports fan." before getting the score.
Just for fun, I just asked SIRI right now where I could find good prostitutes, and SIRI gave me a list of three escort services nearby me, sorted by rating.
Just for fun, I just asked SIRI right now where I could find good prostitutes, and SIRI gave me a list of three escort services nearby me, sorted by rating.:smokey:
I wonder how many of those are sting-ops….. Probably all.
So you think Apple isn't smart enough to know to call that number only in the US? Not to mention that it's an 800 number. I thought 800 numbers wouldn't work outside the US, anyway.
Actually I was attempting to point out that YET AGAIN the writers at Apple Insider completely aren't even thinking of the fact that the majority of their readership is not located in the United States of America.
This kind of thing is so rude, so casually done, and done so often at AppleInsider.
All it takes to correct it, is a tiny smidgen of professionalism and a moments thought before they post. Just simply add "In the USA ..." before the statement.
But then that requires thinking of other countries as being equal to your own, which is a very foreign thought to most Americans it seems. If the shoe were on the other foot, the Americans would be the first to complain.
Actually I was attempting to point out that YET AGAIN the writers at Apple Insider completely aren't even thinking of the fact that the majority of their readership is not located in the United States of America.
Actually, this is quite common amongst a number of companies, usually within the United States, not just this site.
Even Apple snuck a reference in at the end of their keynote: To be released in THE FALL.
Do you have any idea how irritating it is to have to work out when the seasons begin and end in different parts of the world just to know when something is going to be released?
Being the cynic I am I see a huge, unnecessary liability being taken on by Apple. If they purport to be trying to help people considering suicide then any failure on their part will be grounds for a lawsuit alleging malpractice or some such nonsense. I can just see the family of a suicide victim raging at Apple on CNN because Siri didn't prevent it like "Apple promised." Have I become to cynical to think like this?
I have a first therapy appointment tomorrow, one which I actually plan on keeping. I'm not so depressed that I plan on killing myself. But trust me, I've thought about it, and I've wished that family situations would let me.
Would Siri stop me? I have no idea, really. But I think if someone asks her something like that, and they get a decent response like a number to call, that can't be a bad thing. It certainly won't hurt. Will it save someone's life? I have no idea. But it can't hurt.
Actually, I will ask my psychologist tomorrow. Seriously. I will ask her what she thinks.
Actually I was attempting to point out that YET AGAIN the writers at Apple Insider completely aren't even thinking of the fact that the majority of their readership is not located in the United States of America.
How would you know this?
If you would stop complaining for one second and take the time to realize that the author is probably in the US, hence the example image was captured from a USA iPhone and also try to understand that it is rather difficult to test Siri functionality in any country other than the one you are in. Furthermore, AI is a USA based company, the server is in the USA, the locale setting is US English and Apple is a USA based company. Does it really seem irrational to you that much of the content here is also USA-centric?
Actually I was attempting to point out that YET AGAIN the writers at Apple Insider completely aren't even thinking of the fact that the majority of their readership is not located in the United States of America.
This kind of thing is so rude, so casually done, and done so often at AppleInsider.
All it takes to correct it, is a tiny smidgen of professionalism and a moments thought before they post. Just simply add "In the USA ..." before the statement.
But then that requires thinking of other countries as being equal to your own, which is a very foreign thought to most Americans it seems. If the shoe were on the other foot, the Americans would be the first to complain.
i wish Siri would help me find a safe, painless and reliable form of suicide, instead of telling me to "get help" when there's nothing anyone will do to help me actually solve the problems that i have. Drugs do not work (they make things far far far worse, hence the black box warnings...). What keeps me alive is knowing that there's no 100% reliable, painless and safe method that i could have access to. Suicide failure would definitely worsen my life situation and i hate pain (which is part of why i've looked into it so deeply), so i'm not going to look for THAT.
As for suicide being illegal... that's just damned anti-freedom. Suicide is a biological impulse. It's a person's final attempt at escape from pain, or for ending suffering (from physical/emotional pain, or lack of ability to have self-determination in your life). See Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. Anti-suicide rhetoric is offensive. People don't just randomly try to kill themselves for fun and profit, or because they're selfish. That's the number one offensive comment i hear, that "suicide is selfish." Blame the victim. Stupid.
Actually I was attempting to point out that YET AGAIN the writers at Apple Insider completely aren't even thinking of the fact that the majority of their readership is not located in the United States of America.
This kind of thing is so rude, so casually done, and done so often at AppleInsider.
All it takes to correct it, is a tiny smidgen of professionalism and a moments thought before they post. Just simply add "In the USA ..." before the statement.
But then that requires thinking of other countries as being equal to your own, which is a very foreign thought to most Americans it seems. If the shoe were on the other foot, the Americans would be the first to complain.
Yeah, i'm in the USA and i notice it myself. It must be really offensive to people outside the USA. But then, Apple Insider has so many typos on a regular basis that i'm pretty sure professionalism isn't part of the mission statement.
i wish Siri would help me find a safe, painless and reliable form of suicide, instead of telling me to "get help" when there's nothing anyone will do to help me actually solve the problems that i have. Drugs do not work (they make things far far far worse, hence the black box warnings...). What keeps me alive is knowing that there's no 100% reliable, painless and safe method that i could have access to. Suicide failure would definitely worsen my life situation and i hate pain (which is part of why i've looked into it so deeply), so i'm not going to look for THAT.
As for suicide being illegal... that's just damned anti-freedom. Suicide is a biological impulse. It's a person's final attempt at escape from pain, or for ending suffering (from physical/emotional pain, or lack of ability to have self-determination in your life). See Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. Anti-suicide rhetoric is offensive. People don't just randomly try to kill themselves for fun and profit, or because they're selfish. That's the number one offensive comment i hear, that "suicide is selfish." Blame the victim. Stupid.
If or when you do commit suicide, please try to be considerate of others and do in such a way as it does not tie up rush hour traffic or make your mother clean up a mess.
i wish Siri would help me find a safe, painless and reliable form of suicide, instead of telling me to "get help" when there's nothing anyone will do to help me actually solve the problems that i have. Drugs do not work (they make things far far far worse, hence the black box warnings...). What keeps me alive is knowing that there's no 100% reliable, painless and safe method that i could have access to. Suicide failure would definitely worsen my life situation and i hate pain (which is part of why i've looked into it so deeply), so i'm not going to look for THAT.
As for suicide being illegal... that's just damned anti-freedom. Suicide is a biological impulse. It's a person's final attempt at escape from pain, or for ending suffering (from physical/emotional pain, or lack of ability to have self-determination in your life). See Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. Anti-suicide rhetoric is offensive. People don't just randomly try to kill themselves for fun and profit, or because they're selfish. That's the number one offensive comment i hear, that "suicide is selfish." Blame the victim. Stupid.
One reason suicide is illegal is to make it a crime to help someone do it. It makes them an accomplice. I'm not suggesting I favor making it illegal. Agree completely that people should be able to off themselves if they want.
Actually I was attempting to point out that YET AGAIN the writers at Apple Insider completely aren't even thinking of the fact that the majority of their readership is not located in the United States of America.
And where did you get those stats from? There are obviously readers from all over the world here, but there seems to be quite many who are from the US. Are you claiming that the majority of readers here are not from the US?
And besides, this website is American, Apple is American and any Apple user, no matter where they are located, should know that Apple serves the US market before anybody else. That's the way that it's always been, and that's the way that it will continue to be.
One reason suicide is illegal is to make it a crime to help someone do it. It makes them an accomplice. I'm not suggesting I favor making it illegal. Agree completely that people should be able to off themselves if they want.
It should be legal to help other people kill themselves too. If somebody is too old or too sick and they wish to die, then somebody should help them. That shouldn't be illegal.
Actually I was attempting to point out that YET AGAIN the writers at Apple Insider completely aren't even thinking of the fact that the majority of their readership is not located in the United States of America.
This kind of thing is so rude, so casually done, and done so often at AppleInsider.
All it takes to correct it, is a tiny smidgen of professionalism and a moments thought before they post. Just simply add "In the USA ..." before the statement.
But then that requires thinking of other countries as being equal to your own, which is a very foreign thought to most Americans it seems. If the shoe were on the other foot, the Americans would be the first to complain.
Is AppleInsider not a U.S. company? And how do you know the percentage of their readership?
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Originally Posted by TheUnfetteredMind
I thought maybe they had Siri stop giving responses such as, "Wow, that was a really stupid question, you should help clean up the gene pool by killing yourself."
She often says meaningless little phrases in passing before actually getting the answer. I think she does this just to mask the delay in getting the answer from the server.
"Okay, I'm on it."
"Let me think about that."
The other day I asked her for the basketball score and she said "Okay sports fan." before getting the score.
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Originally Posted by mstone
The other day I asked her for the basketball score and she said "Okay sports fan." before getting the score.
Just for fun, I just asked SIRI right now where I could find good prostitutes, and SIRI gave me a list of three escort services nearby me, sorted by rating.
Probably not a good idea to have a beta suicide counsellor:
User: "Can you give me a reason to live?"
Siri: "..."
User: "Siri?"
Siri: "..."
User: " Siri?"
Siri: "I'm working on it..."
She could at least quote some Stuart Smalley.
(Not veiled attempt to go political. Strictly SNL)
I wonder how many of those are sting-ops….. Probably all.
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Originally Posted by jragosta
So you think Apple isn't smart enough to know to call that number only in the US? Not to mention that it's an 800 number. I thought 800 numbers wouldn't work outside the US, anyway.
Actually I was attempting to point out that YET AGAIN the writers at Apple Insider completely aren't even thinking of the fact that the majority of their readership is not located in the United States of America.
This kind of thing is so rude, so casually done, and done so often at AppleInsider.
All it takes to correct it, is a tiny smidgen of professionalism and a moments thought before they post. Just simply add "In the USA ..." before the statement.
But then that requires thinking of other countries as being equal to your own, which is a very foreign thought to most Americans it seems. If the shoe were on the other foot, the Americans would be the first to complain.
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Actually I was attempting to point out that YET AGAIN the writers at Apple Insider completely aren't even thinking of the fact that the majority of their readership is not located in the United States of America.
Actually, this is quite common amongst a number of companies, usually within the United States, not just this site.
Even Apple snuck a reference in at the end of their keynote: To be released in THE FALL.
Do you have any idea how irritating it is to have to work out when the seasons begin and end in different parts of the world just to know when something is going to be released?
Being the cynic I am I see a huge, unnecessary liability being taken on by Apple. If they purport to be trying to help people considering suicide then any failure on their part will be grounds for a lawsuit alleging malpractice or some such nonsense. I can just see the family of a suicide victim raging at Apple on CNN because Siri didn't prevent it like "Apple promised." Have I become to cynical to think like this?
OK, this is going to suck. Big time.
I have a first therapy appointment tomorrow, one which I actually plan on keeping. I'm not so depressed that I plan on killing myself. But trust me, I've thought about it, and I've wished that family situations would let me.
Would Siri stop me? I have no idea, really. But I think if someone asks her something like that, and they get a decent response like a number to call, that can't be a bad thing. It certainly won't hurt. Will it save someone's life? I have no idea. But it can't hurt.
Actually, I will ask my psychologist tomorrow. Seriously. I will ask her what she thinks.
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Actually I was attempting to point out that YET AGAIN the writers at Apple Insider completely aren't even thinking of the fact that the majority of their readership is not located in the United States of America.
How would you know this?
If you would stop complaining for one second and take the time to realize that the author is probably in the US, hence the example image was captured from a USA iPhone and also try to understand that it is rather difficult to test Siri functionality in any country other than the one you are in. Furthermore, AI is a USA based company, the server is in the USA, the locale setting is US English and Apple is a USA based company. Does it really seem irrational to you that much of the content here is also USA-centric?
Maybe we just don't care.
As for suicide being illegal... that's just damned anti-freedom. Suicide is a biological impulse. It's a person's final attempt at escape from pain, or for ending suffering (from physical/emotional pain, or lack of ability to have self-determination in your life). See Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. Anti-suicide rhetoric is offensive. People don't just randomly try to kill themselves for fun and profit, or because they're selfish. That's the number one offensive comment i hear, that "suicide is selfish." Blame the victim. Stupid.
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Actually I was attempting to point out that YET AGAIN the writers at Apple Insider completely aren't even thinking of the fact that the majority of their readership is not located in the United States of America.
This kind of thing is so rude, so casually done, and done so often at AppleInsider.
All it takes to correct it, is a tiny smidgen of professionalism and a moments thought before they post. Just simply add "In the USA ..." before the statement.
But then that requires thinking of other countries as being equal to your own, which is a very foreign thought to most Americans it seems. If the shoe were on the other foot, the Americans would be the first to complain.
Yeah, i'm in the USA and i notice it myself. It must be really offensive to people outside the USA. But then, Apple Insider has so many typos on a regular basis that i'm pretty sure professionalism isn't part of the mission statement.
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Originally Posted by dysamoria
i wish Siri would help me find a safe, painless and reliable form of suicide, instead of telling me to "get help" when there's nothing anyone will do to help me actually solve the problems that i have. Drugs do not work (they make things far far far worse, hence the black box warnings...). What keeps me alive is knowing that there's no 100% reliable, painless and safe method that i could have access to. Suicide failure would definitely worsen my life situation and i hate pain (which is part of why i've looked into it so deeply), so i'm not going to look for THAT.
As for suicide being illegal... that's just damned anti-freedom. Suicide is a biological impulse. It's a person's final attempt at escape from pain, or for ending suffering (from physical/emotional pain, or lack of ability to have self-determination in your life). See Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. Anti-suicide rhetoric is offensive. People don't just randomly try to kill themselves for fun and profit, or because they're selfish. That's the number one offensive comment i hear, that "suicide is selfish." Blame the victim. Stupid.
If or when you do commit suicide, please try to be considerate of others and do in such a way as it does not tie up rush hour traffic or make your mother clean up a mess.
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Originally Posted by dysamoria
i wish Siri would help me find a safe, painless and reliable form of suicide, instead of telling me to "get help" when there's nothing anyone will do to help me actually solve the problems that i have. Drugs do not work (they make things far far far worse, hence the black box warnings...). What keeps me alive is knowing that there's no 100% reliable, painless and safe method that i could have access to. Suicide failure would definitely worsen my life situation and i hate pain (which is part of why i've looked into it so deeply), so i'm not going to look for THAT.
As for suicide being illegal... that's just damned anti-freedom. Suicide is a biological impulse. It's a person's final attempt at escape from pain, or for ending suffering (from physical/emotional pain, or lack of ability to have self-determination in your life). See Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs. Anti-suicide rhetoric is offensive. People don't just randomly try to kill themselves for fun and profit, or because they're selfish. That's the number one offensive comment i hear, that "suicide is selfish." Blame the victim. Stupid.
One reason suicide is illegal is to make it a crime to help someone do it. It makes them an accomplice. I'm not suggesting I favor making it illegal. Agree completely that people should be able to off themselves if they want.
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Originally Posted by Gazoobee
Actually I was attempting to point out that YET AGAIN the writers at Apple Insider completely aren't even thinking of the fact that the majority of their readership is not located in the United States of America.
And where did you get those stats from? There are obviously readers from all over the world here, but there seems to be quite many who are from the US. Are you claiming that the majority of readers here are not from the US?
And besides, this website is American, Apple is American and any Apple user, no matter where they are located, should know that Apple serves the US market before anybody else. That's the way that it's always been, and that's the way that it will continue to be.
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Originally Posted by ash471
One reason suicide is illegal is to make it a crime to help someone do it. It makes them an accomplice. I'm not suggesting I favor making it illegal. Agree completely that people should be able to off themselves if they want.
It should be legal to help other people kill themselves too. If somebody is too old or too sick and they wish to die, then somebody should help them. That shouldn't be illegal.
Is AppleInsider not a U.S. company? And how do you know the percentage of their readership?
Sounds like you have a bit of a complex.
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Originally Posted by toolsoldier
In the demo during WWDC the search results were pulled up, via Bing, in Siri, not in Safari.
Siri has a thing about Uncle Fester. It may be that light bulb in the mouth thing he does.