Judge says 'issues have shifted' for DOJ e-book trial against Apple

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  • Reply 21 of 52
    sumergosumergo Posts: 215member


    Thanks Spam.


     


    My reply to @Buzdots was aimed at his apparently misogynist "bitch slap" attitudes.


     


    Whatever the NSA knows, we really need more civility on these forums - critical comments and responses.  Not just some "sad wanker, twelve-year old views".


     


    ;-(

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  • Reply 22 of 52
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,927member
    sumergo wrote: »

    and you need to watch your mouth . . .

    He's just talking about Cote.
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  • Reply 23 of 52
    mdriftmeyermdriftmeyer Posts: 7,503member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Zombie Steve View Post


     


    Well, I am honored.


     


    I thought this video was very funny and spot on in its mockery of the iSheep. I guess Crapple's pretentious ads are more up your's (alley, that is).



     


    Clearly they must be up your bum as you keep whining for some Preparation H.

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  • Reply 24 of 52
    sumergosumergo Posts: 215member


    Hey Mike,  Real name, pseudonym, avatar, picture of your dog - doesn't matter - much of what we do on this forum is recorded & stored by someone.


     


    All I'm asking is that, "as we all go down in history" (in the NSA/ Internet ISP archives) let us do so with some grace and class - addressing the issues in a measured manner rather than going off-thread at the slightest chance.


     


    I know you don't do this often, but your "pimp slapped" comment doesn't actually raise the level of the conversation does it?.

     

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  • Reply 25 of 52
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Mike Eggleston View Post





    Actually slander is "The action or crime of making a false spoken statement damaging to a person's reputation." and libel is "A published false statement that is damaging to a person's reputation; a written defamation." Nothing in his statement could be considered either of those, so his first amendment rights are very much in force. And while yes, the NSA has their hands in everything, I refuse to be crippled by fear.



    That is why I post with my actual name, not a pseudonym.


     


    Yes, I specifically included slander because of the increased use of online videos, so the comment could be interpreted as general information. Many younger people have no idea the kind of legal hot water they could get into by making incendiary comments online.

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  • Reply 26 of 52
    sumergosumergo Posts: 215member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


     


    Yes, I specifically included slander because of the increased use of online videos, so the comment could be interpreted as general information. Many younger people have no idea the kind of legal hot water they could get into by making incendiary comments online.





    Dead right again . . .

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  • Reply 27 of 52


    iSheep line up for iPhone 5 release


     


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  • Reply 28 of 52
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TeeJay2012 View Post




    Pssst. Steve. Samsung makes the cheap plastic shells for their phones...



     


    Hey a Galaxy S4 costs RRP $A849 in Australia, I think that's what he was alluding to, the initial rush of S-sheep who bought the ones shipped at that price when lacklustre sales will see pricing drop as fast as Samsung's share price.


     


    There's a lot of "shipped" units to clear.

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  • Reply 29 of 52
    oneof52oneof52 Posts: 113member


    Terrible headline.  Terrible article. When did the judge say this?  Before or after testimony?


     


     


    Terrible wording!

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  • Reply 30 of 52
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member

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    Originally Posted by gmsquires View Post


    What the frick? The title for the story can be taken either way. Either the tide has changed against Apple or for them. I would tend to think that since the Judge didn't say specifically what had changed re: the issues, for either side, and what she commented previously it would more liekly be that Apple had provided evidentiary info that has perhaps changed her mind.



     


    The present:-


     


    eBooks cost less,


     


    consumers have more choice,


     


    the market is more open and free.


     


    Those "issues".


     


    The DoJ are a bunch of hypocritical puppets of the dominant player who went whining to them with this "complaint".


     


    Maybe the Judge isn't such a moron after all, she's got a bit of egg on her face due to the guilty pronouncement before the trial, nothing an appeal to the Supreme Court won't fix.

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  • Reply 31 of 52
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member

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    Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post


     


    Quite true. Just because you think you are protected by your seeming anonymity on the web, does not make it true. In fact, you are still accountable for slander and libel and could be sued quite easily. Freedom of speech does not protect you from scurrilous statements. Remember, the NSA knows everything about you online.



     


    Do you think if they extradite someone like me from Australia, over libellous comments, they could arrange a court near Disneyland, either that or Vegas?

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  • Reply 32 of 52
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by oneof52 View Post


    Terrible headline.  Terrible article. When did the judge say this?  Before or after testimony?


     


     


    Terrible wording!



     


    At the end of the evidence, the judge's comment is a bit confusing, to say the least.

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  • Reply 33 of 52
    anonymouseanonymouse Posts: 7,060member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post


     


    Do you think if they extradite someone like me from Australia, over libellous comments, they could arrange a court near Disneyland, either that or Vegas?



     


    Sorry, it's the eastern district of Texas for you foreigners, if you're lucky, otherwise, Gitmo.


     


    Your friends will shake their heads and say, "hill60 always was an unlucky wight."

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  • Reply 34 of 52
    jragostajragosta Posts: 10,473member
    hill60 wrote: »
    The present:-

    eBooks cost less,

    consumers have more choice,

    the market is more open and free.

    Those "issues".

    The DoJ are a bunch of hypocritical puppets of the dominant player who went whining to them with this "complaint".

    Maybe the Judge isn't such a moron after all, she's got a bit of egg on her face due to the guilty pronouncement before the trial, nothing an appeal to the Supreme Court won't fix.

    Actually, "the issues have shifted" is likely a response to the bomb that B&N dropped on the DOJ's case:

    http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/bn-drops-bombshell-in-dojs-price-fixing-case-against-apple
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  • Reply 35 of 52
    elrothelroth Posts: 1,201member

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    Originally Posted by Mike Eggleston View Post





    I honestly laughed out loud when I read this! I think that the lawyer for Apple's defense team should have the right to slap each one of the prosecutor's in the face, followed up finally with the judge being "Pimp Slapped" for her pre-trial arguments.



    Yeah, not very professional or realistic…. But damn funny if you think about it. image


    It's only funny if you're 14 years old. Actually, not so much even then. 

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  • Reply 36 of 52
    elrothelroth Posts: 1,201member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BuzDots View Post


    The old girl ought to be bitch slapped for making such a dumb-ass comment early on - no matter how the ruling turns out.


     


    Jurisprudence at its finest!



    Commenting at its worst.

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  • Reply 37 of 52
    elrothelroth Posts: 1,201member

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    Originally Posted by oneof52 View Post


    Terrible headline.  Terrible article. When did the judge say this?  Before or after testimony?


     


     


    Terrible wording!



    Maybe this will help you (I agree that AI just slapped this story together, and did a pretty bad job).


     


    The judge in the Apple e-book antitrust case loves her iPad - Apple 2.0 -Fortune Tech

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  • Reply 38 of 52
    elrothelroth Posts: 1,201member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jragosta View Post





    Actually, "the issues have shifted" is likely a response to the bomb that B&N dropped on the DOJ's case:



    http://www.macobserver.com/tmo/article/bn-drops-bombshell-in-dojs-price-fixing-case-against-apple


    Here are even more details of B&N's testimony:


     


    The Apple e-book antitrust trial: Enter Barnes & Noble - Apple 2.0 -Fortune Tech

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  • Reply 39 of 52
    davdav Posts: 123member

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    Originally Posted by Sumergo View Post

    we really need more civility on these forums - critical comments and responses.  Not just some "sad wanker, twelve-year old views".


     



     


    I read this as highly hypocritical.

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  • Reply 40 of 52
    lkrupplkrupp Posts: 10,557member


    Don't get your hopes up. The judge will rule against Apple, that's a done deal. Remember, there are a number of state's Attorneys General waiting to pounce on Apple with lawsuits, as well as the class actions being brought. Apple needs to be guilty for this to happen and the lawyers to collect their fees. Money talks and bullshit walks.


     


    Yes, I'm a cynic.

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