As always Trollest Shill blaming everyone except Apple. Doesn't Apple have to approve 3rd party batteries?
No, they don't. I believe that it's possible to get Apple approval for accessories, but it's not mandatory. I don't believe Apple has EVER approved a replacement battery.
While I praise AI for using a headline that specifies the defective batteries are not something Apple had anything to do with, I also must defend the Newer Tech (third party) battery I got for my Macbook, when the OEM battery swelled up and began to warp my 'book. Two years and counting now, with no fire (or other malfunction). Thanks Newer!
No, they don't. I believe that it's possible to get Apple approval for accessories, but it's not mandatory. I don't believe Apple has EVER approved a replacement battery.
Cool! TS is back. Now what's up with SolipsismX? He's been pretty quiet through the past few days, even though there were so many interesting announcements at WWDC.
He's on possibly permanent hiatus. Check the "Plan F:" thread, wherever it is.
As always Trollest Shill blaming everyone except Apple.
You seem awfully sore that I beat the snot out of you in that last thread. What's wrong, bucko? Can't stand to be embarrassed in front of the rest of your troll friends who are better at their jobs than you?
He's on possibly permanent hiatus. Check the "Plan F:" thread, wherever it is.
You seem awfully sore that I beat the snot out of you in that last thread. What's wrong, bucko? Can't stand to be embarrassed in front of the rest of your troll friends who are better at their jobs than you?
Not sore at all because you did not beat the snot out of me. It's all in good fun though, you and a few others on here make for an interesting day.
This is why you don't buy a 3rd party battery. Spend the extra $10 and get a genuine Apple battery.
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Originally Posted by Vorsos
This is why the MFI program exists.
Exactly, and why Apple included circuitry in the Lightening connector to make it difficult for fly by night companies to do cheap, compromised knockoffs.
The vast majority of Mac/PC buyers do not upgrade the hard drive or memory or battery.
Provide us with actual statistics and then we can discuss this intelligently, but walk into any electronics/computer store and you'll see tons of internal hard drives. And batteries don't get "upgraded", they get replaced when they no longer take a charge or only last 30 minutes.
The vast majority of DSLR owners never buy another lens except the one that came with their camera (the industry average per year is only 1.68 lenses per body sold), but that doesn't mean they should start making the cameras with non-removable lenses.
Provide us with actual statistics and then we can discuss this intelligently, but walk into any electronics/computer store and you'll see tons of internal hard drives. And batteries don't get "upgraded", they get replaced when they no longer take a charge or only last 30 minutes.
The vast majority of DSLR owners never buy another lens except the one that came with their camera (the industry average per year is only 1.68 lenses per body sold), but that doesn't mean they should start making the cameras with non-removable lenses.
They make point and shoot cameras.
If you want to have full upgrade capabilities, get a MacPro or PC.
If you want to have full upgrade capabilities, get a MacPro or PC.
Point and shoots are not counted in these stats. These are the number of lenses sold compared to the number of DSLR and other removable lens bodies sold.
And your second sentence is absurd. If Apple could make a laptop in 2008 and earlier that had removable storage, upgradable memory and a replaceable battery, then they should be able to do that in 2013. Are you saying that anyone who wants a quality laptop should buy a PC laptop? Because that's a pretty bad marketing plan for Apple. Are you saying that if Apple once again provided this capability that they would be wrong to do so? Or are you just someone who defends Apple no matter what they do?
And your second sentence is absurd. If Apple could make a laptop in 2008 and earlier that had removable storage, upgradable memory and a replaceable battery, then they should be able to do that in 2013.
What makes you think they're not able to? Of course they could make a laptop with replaceable components.
The point is that it would be heavier, bulkier, and less reliable - which matters to most people in exchange for the ability to easily exchange components - which matters to very few people. In the 90s, I was constantly upgrading computers. In the past 5 years, I don't do that any more - even a mid-range computer that you buy today will be fast enough for most people for a good 5 years or more. Upgradeability is not a big deal, especially for laptops, so why not drop it and achieve greater reliability, lighter weight, and reduced service problems?
Point and shoots are not counted in these stats. These are the number of lenses sold compared to the number of DSLR and other removable lens bodies sold.
And your second sentence is absurd. If Apple could make a laptop in 2008 and earlier that had removable storage, upgradable memory and a replaceable battery, then they should be able to do that in 2013. Are you saying that anyone who wants a quality laptop should buy a PC laptop? Because that's a pretty bad marketing plan for Apple. Are you saying that if Apple once again provided this capability that they would be wrong to do so? Or are you just someone who defends Apple no matter what they do?
There are trade offs in everything. I want a 200+ HP car that gets 40 mpg, fits 6 adults comfortably and costs less than $20000. Decide what's important. If battery replacement is so important, get a PC.
Frankly I want to install my own ram so I will get the 27" iMac.
You bought a third-party battery. What did you expect?
It will be in every newspaper as "Apple batteries faulty", not even any mention that they're third party, and only one reference to Best Buy. You watch.
Sigh forum always eats my posts. Issues can arise with oem batteries too, although they're at least better documented most of the time.
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Thanks for clarifying that. I myself avoid using anything 3rd party, the eventual cost is often much higher than the initial savings.
No, they don't. I believe that it's possible to get Apple approval for accessories, but it's not mandatory. I don't believe Apple has EVER approved a replacement battery.
BTW, TS was right. The media is making it look like this is an Apple failure. Look at this one, for example:
http://www.insidermonkey.com/blog/is-your-apple-inc-aapl-computer-a-risk-to-your-health-176438/
While I praise AI for using a headline that specifies the defective batteries are not something Apple had anything to do with, I also must defend the Newer Tech (third party) battery I got for my Macbook, when the OEM battery swelled up and began to warp my 'book. Two years and counting now, with no fire (or other malfunction). Thanks Newer!
Good info, thanks. Does using a 3rd party battery void the warranty? I'd assume Best Buy would be on the hook for any damage done to the MBP.
He's on possibly permanent hiatus. Check the "Plan F:" thread, wherever it is.
You seem awfully sore that I beat the snot out of you in that last thread. What's wrong, bucko? Can't stand to be embarrassed in front of the rest of your troll friends who are better at their jobs than you?
Well, that was fast. First day back and a thread about battery recalls is now about Tallest Skil.
Can we set up a forum bot to tag threads when that happens? Like a NSFW tag, but call it NATS.
Not sore at all because you did not beat the snot out of me. It's all in good fun though, you and a few others on here make for an interesting day.
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Originally Posted by macxpress
This is why you don't buy a 3rd party battery. Spend the extra $10 and get a genuine Apple battery.
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Originally Posted by Vorsos
This is why the MFI program exists.
Exactly, and why Apple included circuitry in the Lightening connector to make it difficult for fly by night companies to do cheap, compromised knockoffs.
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Originally Posted by jungmark
The vast majority of Mac/PC buyers do not upgrade the hard drive or memory or battery.
Provide us with actual statistics and then we can discuss this intelligently, but walk into any electronics/computer store and you'll see tons of internal hard drives. And batteries don't get "upgraded", they get replaced when they no longer take a charge or only last 30 minutes.
The vast majority of DSLR owners never buy another lens except the one that came with their camera (the industry average per year is only 1.68 lenses per body sold), but that doesn't mean they should start making the cameras with non-removable lenses.
They make point and shoot cameras.
If you want to have full upgrade capabilities, get a MacPro or PC.
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Originally Posted by jungmark
They make point and shoot cameras.
If you want to have full upgrade capabilities, get a MacPro or PC.
Point and shoots are not counted in these stats. These are the number of lenses sold compared to the number of DSLR and other removable lens bodies sold.
And your second sentence is absurd. If Apple could make a laptop in 2008 and earlier that had removable storage, upgradable memory and a replaceable battery, then they should be able to do that in 2013. Are you saying that anyone who wants a quality laptop should buy a PC laptop? Because that's a pretty bad marketing plan for Apple. Are you saying that if Apple once again provided this capability that they would be wrong to do so? Or are you just someone who defends Apple no matter what they do?
What makes you think they're not able to? Of course they could make a laptop with replaceable components.
The point is that it would be heavier, bulkier, and less reliable - which matters to most people in exchange for the ability to easily exchange components - which matters to very few people. In the 90s, I was constantly upgrading computers. In the past 5 years, I don't do that any more - even a mid-range computer that you buy today will be fast enough for most people for a good 5 years or more. Upgradeability is not a big deal, especially for laptops, so why not drop it and achieve greater reliability, lighter weight, and reduced service problems?
There are trade offs in everything. I want a 200+ HP car that gets 40 mpg, fits 6 adults comfortably and costs less than $20000. Decide what's important. If battery replacement is so important, get a PC.
Frankly I want to install my own ram so I will get the 27" iMac.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
You bought a third-party battery. What did you expect?
It will be in every newspaper as "Apple batteries faulty", not even any mention that they're third party, and only one reference to Best Buy. You watch.
Sigh forum always eats my posts. Issues can arise with oem batteries too, although they're at least better documented most of the time.
Oh, absolutely. But since this isn't OEM, you'd think they'd be smart enough to point that out first and foremost.