I suppose if Apple actually does implement this patent, they will also include a chip authenticator, so that only Apple-branded or -licensed USB cables and SD cards will function in the port. Like with lightning ports. Pffft!
So who makes the flash/drives for Apple then? I think you will find that these products can be found everywhere and on the shelf on most retailers or online. I think except for the fusion drives. The flash drives are Samsung or Toshiba.... Kingston........if memory serves me correctly. Are you talking about memory? Or flash drives....they are different..... You do know that most manufacturers use the same vendors for their internal parts......
According to ifixit.........the memory in the Nexus 7 and the rMBP are the same: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+7+Teardown/9623/2
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It's certainly not about who makes them. Everybody including myself knows that the parts come from a handful of manufacturers.
It's whether:
a) the parts are the same ones that a normal consumer is allowed to, or even can buy;
and
b) whether those parts are vetted through quality control into "A, B, C" grade parts/supplies, regardless of the batch/part number, either at the manufacturer or by Apple.
And only on a technicality: I was pointing this discrepancy between seemingly the same parts such as Flash memory, that the poster I was replying to was calling an Apple rip-off. The Nexus 7 apparently does NOT use the same FLASH memory as Apple's, considering that's what the Android fans are complaining about dying.
FYI: I ran across the article and read it, since I noticed this with my testing Nexus7 as well. I'm not enthused with the entire device, nor the OS, and it's far from the smooth UX and longevity that I and many of my clients have experienced with the iPad 2, and the iPad Mini.
It's a known fact... and one many people disagree the need for... that Apple continues to use the expensive enterprise class hard drives rather than the cheaper consumer drives, causing Macs to be "unnecessarily expensive" in their eyes. The ones that is, that don't confuse the expense of enterprise-anything with Apple price-gouging.
try airport extreme, not even the only apple product with just one usb port
What idiot needs to plug an SD card into their AirPort?! I mean actual devices that people would actually be using. :no: You know, something that makes sense for an SD card to grace.
Flash drives specifically have a very large and varying degree of read/write speeds and estimated total hours of usage within each production batch. Who makes them seems to be irrelevant. Other than some manufacturers have a better quality control and grading process than others, specifically Crucial and Kingston.
I think this would be great for the Macbook Pros. Two USB ports isn't enough (Keyboard/mouse, storage and no more ports) but this would offer a 3rd port for a USB pen or whatever. It's fine that it's hybrid because they probably pick the number of ports based on the power allocation. Adding extra USB 3 ports would potentially be an extra 5W per port so this way, the power is already allocated to the SD reader, they just allow you to use one or the other.
I think they could get two USB ports on the SD slot too.
It's certainly not about who makes them. Everybody including myself knows that the parts come from a handful of manufacturers.
It's whether:
a) the parts are the same ones that a normal consumer is allowed to, or even can buy;
and
b) whether those parts are vetted through quality control into "A, B, C" grade parts/supplies, regardless of the batch/part number, either at the manufacturer or by Apple.
And only on a technicality: I was pointing this discrepancy between seemingly the same parts such as Flash memory, that the poster I was replying to was calling an Apple rip-off. The Nexus 7 apparently does NOT use the same FLASH memory as Apple's, considering that's what the Android fans are complaining about dying.
FYI: I ran across the article and read it, since I noticed this with my testing Nexus7 as well. I'm not enthused with the entire device, nor the OS, and it's far from the smooth UX and longevity that I and many of my clients have experienced with the iPad 2, and the iPad Mini.
It's a known fact... and one many people disagree the need for... that Apple continues to use the expensive enterprise class hard drives rather than the cheaper consumer drives, causing Macs to be "unnecessarily expensive" in their eyes. The ones that is, that don't confuse the expense of enterprise-anything with Apple price-gouging.
Rather surprised you didn't know that.
The flash drives in the MBPs that are made by Samsung you can get anywhere....
The flash drives that are soldered onto the logic board well...that is another story.....they can be bought be other vendors and are not just Apple specific. But i do not think the average consumer can get them at the big box retailers or online. My point was that to put down a product like the Nexus 7 or tother products as having cheap materials...well make sure that Apple does not use the same vendor for parts. Because I will bet they do......
I would not compare the Nexus 7 to an iPad......not close IMHO.....the iPad wins hands down.
I agree with you that Apple uses premium suppliers in their products....But then other companies use the same suppliers as well....
I think this would be great for the Macbook Pros. Two USB ports isn't enough (Keyboard/mouse, storage and no more ports) but this would offer a 3rd port for a USB pen or whatever. It's fine that it's hybrid because they probably pick the number of ports based on the power allocation. Adding extra USB 3 ports would potentially be an extra 5W per port so this way, the power is already allocated to the SD reader, they just allow you to use one or the other.
I think they could get two USB ports on the SD slot too.
That is a great point.....they might be able to add more USB ports this way....
So, uhm, what if I have a setup like now, with my SD card slot used regularly, and a cable connected to the USB port too?
Hopefully this would not reduce the number of ports but increase them, meaning you now have an SD card slot that would give you an extra USB port that wasn't there to begin with.
What idiot needs to plug an SD card into their AirPort?! I mean actual devices that people would actually be using. :no: You know, something that makes sense for an SD card to grace.
I hate to say it buts its worth it if it allows time capsule support for it(or larger size) I think you could add 2 TB storage.
I think this would be great for the Macbook Pros. Two USB ports isn't enough (Keyboard/mouse, storage and no more ports) but this would offer a 3rd port for a USB pen or whatever. It's fine that it's hybrid because they probably pick the number of ports based on the power allocation. Adding extra USB 3 ports would potentially be an extra 5W per port so this way, the power is already allocated to the SD reader, they just allow you to use one or the other.
I think they could get two USB ports on the SD slot too.
Yes very needful but apple uses claims now "thunderbolt = 3 USB" (ok if thunderbolt to USB 3 is out that would be true)
Now still hoping apple have higher end tablet this good choice, think they have 1 USB, Sd, lighting, thunderbolt in 1 or 2 ports! Yes yarda, yada there is still possibility there.
I'm somewhat surprised that the claim extending this to other types of interfaces other than memory cards etc wasn't denied, there are plenty of examples of USB / esata combo ports already in use.
Edit: I suppose as an application it's liable to be denied anyways, just surprised it wasn't denied in its initial review.
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This is all a setup...
Samsung is soon to announce their new dual port offerings on new phones.
Crap! Why didn't I think of this?
That's what I like about Apple....it's the details!
Thanks for acknowledging you don't understand what quality is.
What Apple product has only one USB port? Even if this ever existed (it wouldn't), you'd be fine. :no:
Ha!
I suppose if Apple actually does implement this patent, they will also include a chip authenticator, so that only Apple-branded or -licensed USB cables and SD cards will function in the port. Like with lightning ports. Pffft!
It's certainly not about who makes them. Everybody including myself knows that the parts come from a handful of manufacturers.
It's whether:
a) the parts are the same ones that a normal consumer is allowed to, or even can buy;
and
b) whether those parts are vetted through quality control into "A, B, C" grade parts/supplies, regardless of the batch/part number, either at the manufacturer or by Apple.
And only on a technicality: I was pointing this discrepancy between seemingly the same parts such as Flash memory, that the poster I was replying to was calling an Apple rip-off. The Nexus 7 apparently does NOT use the same FLASH memory as Apple's, considering that's what the Android fans are complaining about dying.
FYI: I ran across the article and read it, since I noticed this with my testing Nexus7 as well. I'm not enthused with the entire device, nor the OS, and it's far from the smooth UX and longevity that I and many of my clients have experienced with the iPad 2, and the iPad Mini.
It's a known fact... and one many people disagree the need for... that Apple continues to use the expensive enterprise class hard drives rather than the cheaper consumer drives, causing Macs to be "unnecessarily expensive" in their eyes. The ones that is, that don't confuse the expense of enterprise-anything with Apple price-gouging.
Rather surprised you didn't know that.
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil
Thanks for acknowledging you don't understand what quality is.
What Apple product has only one USB port? Even if this ever existed (it wouldn't), you'd be fine.
Ha!
yet again largest troll shows his ignorance, exposing himself for all to see the bitter pathetic troll that he is
try airport extreme, not even the only apple product with just one usb port
What idiot needs to plug an SD card into their AirPort?! I mean actual devices that people would actually be using. :no: You know, something that makes sense for an SD card to grace.
Flash drives specifically have a very large and varying degree of read/write speeds and estimated total hours of usage within each production batch. Who makes them seems to be irrelevant. Other than some manufacturers have a better quality control and grading process than others, specifically Crucial and Kingston.
I think they could get two USB ports on the SD slot too.
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Originally Posted by ThePixelDoc
It's certainly not about who makes them. Everybody including myself knows that the parts come from a handful of manufacturers.
It's whether:
a) the parts are the same ones that a normal consumer is allowed to, or even can buy;
and
b) whether those parts are vetted through quality control into "A, B, C" grade parts/supplies, regardless of the batch/part number, either at the manufacturer or by Apple.
And only on a technicality: I was pointing this discrepancy between seemingly the same parts such as Flash memory, that the poster I was replying to was calling an Apple rip-off. The Nexus 7 apparently does NOT use the same FLASH memory as Apple's, considering that's what the Android fans are complaining about dying.
FYI: I ran across the article and read it, since I noticed this with my testing Nexus7 as well. I'm not enthused with the entire device, nor the OS, and it's far from the smooth UX and longevity that I and many of my clients have experienced with the iPad 2, and the iPad Mini.
It's a known fact... and one many people disagree the need for... that Apple continues to use the expensive enterprise class hard drives rather than the cheaper consumer drives, causing Macs to be "unnecessarily expensive" in their eyes. The ones that is, that don't confuse the expense of enterprise-anything with Apple price-gouging.
Rather surprised you didn't know that.
The flash drives in the MBPs that are made by Samsung you can get anywhere....
The flash drives that are soldered onto the logic board well...that is another story.....they can be bought be other vendors and are not just Apple specific. But i do not think the average consumer can get them at the big box retailers or online. My point was that to put down a product like the Nexus 7 or tother products as having cheap materials...well make sure that Apple does not use the same vendor for parts. Because I will bet they do......
I would not compare the Nexus 7 to an iPad......not close IMHO.....the iPad wins hands down.
I agree with you that Apple uses premium suppliers in their products....But then other companies use the same suppliers as well....
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Originally Posted by Marvin
I think this would be great for the Macbook Pros. Two USB ports isn't enough (Keyboard/mouse, storage and no more ports) but this would offer a 3rd port for a USB pen or whatever. It's fine that it's hybrid because they probably pick the number of ports based on the power allocation. Adding extra USB 3 ports would potentially be an extra 5W per port so this way, the power is already allocated to the SD reader, they just allow you to use one or the other.
I think they could get two USB ports on the SD slot too.
That is a great point.....they might be able to add more USB ports this way....
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Originally Posted by FjordPrefect
This is for the iPad, I guarantee it.
What makes you say that?
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Originally Posted by Oflife
So, uhm, what if I have a setup like now, with my SD card slot used regularly, and a cable connected to the USB port too?
Hopefully this would not reduce the number of ports but increase them, meaning you now have an SD card slot that would give you an extra USB port that wasn't there to begin with.
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Originally Posted by FjordPrefect
This is for the iPad, I guarantee it.
This port will never see the light of day. I guarantee that.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
How is Apple gouging anyone when no one is forced to buy their products?
Considering how terrible the alternatives are I'd consider iOS and OS X as virtually staple products.
Possibly The other side is thunderbolt inside USB.
I hate to say it buts its worth it if it allows time capsule support for it(or larger size) I think you could add 2 TB storage.
Yes very needful but apple uses claims now "thunderbolt = 3 USB" (ok if thunderbolt to USB 3 is out that would be true)
Now still hoping apple have higher end tablet this good choice, think they have 1 USB, Sd, lighting, thunderbolt in 1 or 2 ports! Yes yarda, yada there is still possibility there.
The iPad, which has never had a USB port in its entire existence, nor will it ever, nor is it thick enough to ever have one... will get this.
Come on.
Edit: I suppose as an application it's liable to be denied anyways, just surprised it wasn't denied in its initial review.