Apple assembling speech recognition tech team in Boston to improve Siri

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  • Reply 21 of 37


    And two of the people Apple should get to manage the tech in this speech recognition team are Drs. James and Janet Baker.  They invented the tech that Siri uses, but were swindled out of their company, Dragon Systems, and the IP was acquired by Nuance, who've not done much but market it.  Dr. & Dr. Baker did try to regain some of the IP that was their life-work, through a lawsuit against Goldman Sachs, but... you guessed it... the bankers won.  Would be really great to see Apple cut them back in to their own work, somehow.


     


    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/business/goldman-sachs-and-a-sale-gone-horribly-awry.html?pagewanted=all

  • Reply 22 of 37
    kdarlingkdarling Posts: 1,640member

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    Originally Posted by DroidFTW View Post


    That explains it.  I was wondering how people were posting that Siri has unreliable voice recognition when my Android phone is consistently spot on if they were using the same technology.



     


    Google even publishes papers on their deep neural net voice recognition research:


     


    http://research.google.com/pubs/SpeechProcessing.html


     


    (Microsoft Research also publishes some interesting stuff.  Too bad it doesn't all make it into production, but you can download some cool things.)

  • Reply 23 of 37
    macgurumacguru Posts: 35member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DroidFTW View Post


     


    That explains it.  I was wondering how people were posting that Siri has unreliable voice recognition when my Android phone is consistently spot on if they were using the same technology.



    Anyone who has used Siri voice recognition on an iPhone 5 will attest to how accurate it is -- very. Apple improved the microphone design in the iPhone 5 specifically for Siri and man does it make a difference. You can have all kinds of difficult background noise, yet Siri voice recognition on an iPhone 5 comes out smelling like a rose. Android voice rec. technology has nothing on iOS, unless you're comparing it to older Apple technology which wouldn't be fair.

  • Reply 24 of 37
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    sockrolid wrote: »
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  • Reply 25 of 37
    I'm sorry but I don't know what you mean by "Apple as emblem bling speech recognition teach team in Boston to improv Siri." Would you like for me to search the web?
  • Reply 26 of 37
    richard getzrichard getz Posts: 1,142member


    This is now just happening? Ugh! 

  • Reply 27 of 37
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    This is now just happening? Ugh! 

    Why is that so bad?
  • Reply 28 of 37
    richard getzrichard getz Posts: 1,142member

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    Originally Posted by Relic View Post



    Why does Siri have to be a girl, I want a sexy Hugh Jackman voice. I would defiantly use it more that's for sure, Suri, would you love me if I was fat, absolutely darling, I love you Siri.


     


    Siri is getting male voices with iOS 7

  • Reply 29 of 37
    richard getzrichard getz Posts: 1,142member

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    Originally Posted by Relic View Post





    Why is that so bad?


     


    To just now putting a team together? This should have been down a year ago. 

  • Reply 30 of 37
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    To just now putting a team together? This should have been down a year ago. 

    Oh, yeah that is kind of strange isn't it. I wonder how much of priority Siri is though. I personally feel crazy enough already, so talking to my gadgets has never been high up on my list. In fact I have never witness anyone ever using it, must be one of those behind closed doors kind of features.
  • Reply 31 of 37
    matrix07matrix07 Posts: 1,993member

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    Originally Posted by Relic View Post





    Why is that so bad?


    Should be done since they acquired SIRI. Also, should be predictive by now.


  • Reply 32 of 37
    mstone wrote: »
    Do you have any citations? I never heard this before. It is pretty obvious that Nuance has a huge market cap (6B) and is involved in lots of things that Apple would probably never want to deal with, but I always assumed that they never even considered trying to buy them.
    I have heard this sometime ago just cannot remember the source.
  • Reply 33 of 37
    pembrokepembroke Posts: 230member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TeaEarleGreyHot View Post


    And two of the people Apple should get to manage the tech in this speech recognition team are Drs. James and Janet Baker.  They invented the tech that Siri uses, but were swindled out of their company, Dragon Systems, and the IP was acquired by Nuance, who've not done much but market it.  Dr. & Dr. Baker did try to regain some of the IP that was their life-work, through a lawsuit against Goldman Sachs, but... you guessed it... the bankers won.  Would be really great to see Apple cut them back in to their own work, somehow.


     


    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/15/business/goldman-sachs-and-a-sale-gone-horribly-awry.html?pagewanted=all



    Wow, that is an astonishing report. Goldman Sachs getting money for delivering old rope - how disgusting. This is a story of two innovative entrepreneurial people, taking risks, working long hours, developing a company that employed 400 employees; only to be thrown on the rubbish heap, treated derisively and cavalierly by Goldman Sachs, a company which we're supposed to respect for its financial acumen? With antics like that, 'Wall Street', at least Goldman, deserves all the vitriol it gets.

  • Reply 34 of 37
    macbook promacbook pro Posts: 1,605member
    dillio wrote: »
    Siri should be taught the following new tricks:
    -how to work with the headphone button. For all intents and purposes, it's useless via the headphones button, when I ride my bike. The timing is off, that by the time I start speaking the command, I hear the Siri-out tone. Very frustrating!
    -how to change any setting on the iPhone: ex. turn off/on Wi-Fi, etc.


    You will really like iOS 7.
  • Reply 35 of 37
    macbook promacbook pro Posts: 1,605member
    This is now just happening? Ugh! 

    To just now putting a team together? This should have been down a year ago. 

    jimbo1234 wrote: »
    I have heard this sometime ago just cannot remember the source.


    Apple has a very strong speech recognition team but apparently everyone was willing to relocate to California. In 2011 Apple recruited a very senior level specialist in the field who didn't want to move to California. When people of sufficient caliber don't want to move then even companies like Apple make concessions.

    TL;DR: Apple began building this team at least two years ago.

    Did someone really suggest that Apple should have predictive speech recognition? WTF is that?
  • Reply 36 of 37
    matrix07matrix07 Posts: 1,993member

    Did someone really suggest that Apple should have predictive speech recognition? WTF is that?

    Nope. SIRI, not speech recognition. Sorry for being a little off topic.
  • Reply 37 of 37
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,176member

    Did someone really suggest that Apple should have predictive speech recognition? WTF is that?

    It would be like this....
    http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16528-innovation-speech-prediction-software.html#.UfT_9NLUn4Q
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