I've always wondered why there's so much news and "outrage" when apple does something far from perfect.
That's quite easy to explain: Apple tries to stand for quality (and charges premium for that), so when quality falters, people naturally complain. 3D maps are pointless, the real issue was and is Apple Maps' extremely variable accuracy making it impossible to trust. 3D maps and flyover and whatnot are just useless features; if you can't do them right, then don't do them at all. That's what Jobs used to stand for when he was at the wheel. At least Street View is useful for orientation because it gives you the right perspective, but the rest is not.
Google, on the other hand, never stood for quality. They conduct research and put beta services out all the time, they aren't perfect and aren't trying to be perfect, and they don't charge premium for anything (in fact they give everything they can for free), so people tend to be a lot more tolerant with them.
I've always wondered why there's so much news and "outrage" when apple does something far from perfect.
That's quite easy to explain: Apple tries to stand for quality (and charges premium for that), so when quality falters, people naturally complain. 3D maps are pointless, the real issue was and is Apple Maps' extremely variable accuracy making it impossible to trust. 3D maps and flyover and whatnot are just useless features; if you can't do them right, then don't do them at all. That's what Jobs used to stand for when he was at the wheel. At least Street View is useful for orientation because it gives you the right perspective, but the rest is not.
Google, on the other hand, never stood for quality. They conduct research and put beta services out all the time, they aren't perfect and aren't trying to be perfect, and they don't charge premium for anything (in fact they give everything they can for free), so people tend to be a lot more tolerant with them.
That's quite easy to explain: Apple tries to stand for quality (and charges premium for that), so when quality falters, people naturally complain. 3D maps are pointless, the real issue was and is Apple Maps' extremely variable accuracy making it impossible to trust. 3D maps and flyover and whatnot are just useless features; if you can't do them right, then don't do them at all. That's what Jobs used to stand for when he was at the wheel. At least Street View is useful for orientation because it gives you the right perspective, but the rest is not.
Google, on the other hand, never stood for quality. They conduct research and put beta services out all the time, they aren't perfect and aren't trying to be perfect, and they don't charge premium for anything (in fact they give everything they can for free), so people tend to be a lot more tolerant with them.
Well, at least this is a good explanation and making sense.
(OT fork/ Well, Google better wake up and freakn quickly, too ! Now it's an ISP, hardware provider and all ....
Zero tolerances when people are paying for goods and services. They now have to put their money where their MOUTH is. And there's been plenty of mouth. /OT fork)
That's quite easy to explain: Apple tries to stand for quality (and charges premium for that), so when quality falters, people naturally complain. 3D maps are pointless, the real issue was and is Apple Maps' extremely variable accuracy making it impossible to trust. 3D maps and flyover and whatnot are just useless features; if you can't do them right, then don't do them at all. That's what Jobs used to stand for when he was at the wheel. At least Street View is useful for orientation because it gives you the right perspective, but the rest is not.
Google, on the other hand, never stood for quality. They conduct research and put beta services out all the time, they aren't perfect and aren't trying to be perfect, and they don't charge premium for anything (in fact they give everything they can for free), so people tend to be a lot more tolerant with them.
Googles apps and services are free? Of a monetary charge to the user, yes. But what about your data and metrics???
Googles apps and services are free? Of a monetary charge to the user, yes. But what about your data and metrics???
What about it? Could you monetize it yourself? I can't. So, as far as I'm concerned, it's free bcause they're extracting value from what to me is worthless. Free does not imply that the service provider does not gain anything from the deal, only that they don't charge me anything.
What about it? Could you monetize it yourself? I can't. So, as far as I'm concerned, it's free bcause they're extracting value from what to me is worthless. Free does not imply that the service provider does not gain anything from the deal, only that they don't charge me anything.
Right you are. Google is for people who think that privacy is worthless.
What about it? Could you monetize it yourself? I can't. So, as far as I'm concerned, it's free bcause they're extracting value from what to me is worthless. Free does not imply that the service provider does not gain anything from the deal, only that they don't charge me anything.
That's one of the problems with our world.
If you cannot squeeze out dollars of it, it is of no value. /s
Right you are. Google is for people who think that privacy is worthless.
So cute, you think you can enjoy privacy online...
I exercise my privacy rights by not sharing what is private to me with anyone and encrypting my stuff.
If you are an American citizen, the moment you hand your personal data over to a third party, you have waived your fourth amendment rights. If you are not an American citizen, then you have no fourth amendment rights even in the US because the fourteenth amendment does not apply to you.
Now, to shed more light on the entire situation, this also happens with apps in iOS. Fake reviews, paid placement, etc., all to take crap and coat it in gold.
StackOverflow.com is not a social network. It has a reputation system for its contributors, so Fllu can't just create new sock accounts to start posting spam. They have to buy off regular, reputable contributors with $500 prizes. Sorry, but those kinds of obvious posts would be flagged as inappropriate on StackOverflow anyway. I don't think any regular contributor should become a paid Samsung shill at the risk of their reputation points.
Interesting points. I wonder if we can have a system like that here, where the obnoxious trolls can be voted down into obscurity. Speaking of trolls, there are many posters that are conspicuously absent from this thread..
DED - you failed to also mention the incident in Asia this year where Samsung's paid celebrity shills posted anti-apple comments timed in unison, and pre-written and provided to them by Samscum agents. Ironically, and to Samscums embarrassment, they were all posted from their iPhones and iPads.
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Forking Android in 5..4...3...
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Originally Posted by twosee
I've always wondered why there's so much news and "outrage" when apple does something far from perfect.
That's quite easy to explain: Apple tries to stand for quality (and charges premium for that), so when quality falters, people naturally complain. 3D maps are pointless, the real issue was and is Apple Maps' extremely variable accuracy making it impossible to trust. 3D maps and flyover and whatnot are just useless features; if you can't do them right, then don't do them at all. That's what Jobs used to stand for when he was at the wheel. At least Street View is useful for orientation because it gives you the right perspective, but the rest is not.
Google, on the other hand, never stood for quality. They conduct research and put beta services out all the time, they aren't perfect and aren't trying to be perfect, and they don't charge premium for anything (in fact they give everything they can for free), so people tend to be a lot more tolerant with them.
Was the question about maps?
Well, at least this is a good explanation and making sense.
Well, Google better wake up and freakn quickly, too !
Now it's an ISP, hardware provider and all ....
Zero tolerances when people are paying for goods and services.
They now have to put their money where their MOUTH is.
And there's been plenty of mouth. /OT fork)
Anyone who knows software developers or knows their subculture could have told the advertising guy it wouldn't work.
Googles apps and services are free? Of a monetary charge to the user, yes. But what about your data and metrics???
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Originally Posted by irnchriz
Googles apps and services are free? Of a monetary charge to the user, yes. But what about your data and metrics???
What about it? Could you monetize it yourself? I can't. So, as far as I'm concerned, it's free bcause they're extracting value from what to me is worthless. Free does not imply that the service provider does not gain anything from the deal, only that they don't charge me anything.
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Originally Posted by Epsico
What about it? Could you monetize it yourself? I can't. So, as far as I'm concerned, it's free bcause they're extracting value from what to me is worthless. Free does not imply that the service provider does not gain anything from the deal, only that they don't charge me anything.
Right you are. Google is for people who think that privacy is worthless.
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Originally Posted by Epsico
What about it? Could you monetize it yourself? I can't. So, as far as I'm concerned, it's free bcause they're extracting value from what to me is worthless. Free does not imply that the service provider does not gain anything from the deal, only that they don't charge me anything.
That's one of the problems with our world.
If you cannot squeeze out dollars of it, it is of no value. /s
To me my privacy is of great value.
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Originally Posted by jguther
Right you are. Google is for people who think that privacy is worthless.
So cute, you think you can enjoy privacy online...
I exercise my privacy rights by not sharing what is private to me with anyone and encrypting my stuff.
If you are an American citizen, the moment you hand your personal data over to a third party, you have waived your fourth amendment rights. If you are not an American citizen, then you have no fourth amendment rights even in the US because the fourteenth amendment does not apply to you.
[I]But none of that is [B]Apple's[/B] doing.[/I]
Interesting points. I wonder if we can have a system like that here, where the obnoxious trolls can be voted down into obscurity. Speaking of trolls, there are many posters that are conspicuously absent from this thread..
Originally Posted by AppleInsider
"We are willing to pay $500 just for that. Not a lot of work...since you are involved in Stackoverflow ANYWAY."
Amateurs. The world is full of amateurs.