Apple v. Samsung proceedings muddled, but experts say Apple had strong day

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  • Reply 21 of 30

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  • Reply 22 of 30
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member




    Originally Posted by Bondm16 View Post

    Don't care about their lawyer's.


     


    Then why should we care about your argument?

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  • Reply 23 of 30
    bondm16bondm16 Posts: 141member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post


     


    Then why should we care about your argument?



    You mistake argument for a stated fact, I couldnt mistake a Samsung Tablet for an iPad. 

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  • Reply 24 of 30
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member




    Originally Posted by Bondm16 View Post

    You mistake argument for a stated fact, I couldnt mistake a Samsung Tablet for an iPad. 


     


    And you mistake anecdotes for selectively admissible data.

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  • Reply 25 of 30
    kdarlingkdarling Posts: 1,640member

    Quote:



    Originally Posted by jungmark View Post






    Originally Posted by Bondm16 View Post



    The Galaxy Tab 10.1 and the iPad, in my view, do not look identical and I can tell them apart at a good distance.



    Sammy's lawyers couldn't.



     


    No need to exaggerate.


     


    One lawyer couldn't.   An older woman.   For all we know, she wasn't wearing her long distance glasses and didn't want to admit it.  Or she just did not notice the other cues that the male lawyers behind her did when they immediately identified the difference.  Like the existence of a Home button.


     


    Warning: sexist but often true remarks ahead.


     


    Heck, my wife can't tell our remote controls apart while in her hands... and they're totally different shapes!   She's just not mentally tuned like that.


     


    Now if one tablet had been maroon, and the other one crimson, I betcha both the female judge and the lawyer would've been able to tell the difference instantly.

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  • Reply 26 of 30
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,928member
    kdarling wrote: »
    No need to exaggerate.

    One lawyer couldn't.   An older woman.   For all we know, she wasn't wearing her long distance glasses and didn't want to admit it.  Or she just did not notice the other cues that the male lawyers behind her did when they immediately identified the difference.  Like the existence of a Home button.

    Warning: sexist but often true remarks ahead.

    Heck, my wife can't tell our remote controls apart while in her hands... and they're totally different shapes!   She's just not mentally tuned like that.

    Now if one tablet had been maroon, and the other one crimson, I betcha both the female judge and the lawyer would've been able to tell the difference instantly.

    So Sammy hired a lawyer who in her job should know the difference between the products, should do everything to not to embarrass her client, and should be knowledgable to defend her client? That says a lot.
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  • Reply 27 of 30
    kdarlingkdarling Posts: 1,640member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jungmark View Post



    So Sammy hired a lawyer who in her job should know the difference between the products, should do everything to not to embarrass her client, and should be knowledgable to defend her client? That says a lot.


     


     


    Yeah, it says that lawyers are human.  It sure doesn't say anything about Samsung's ability to hire lawyers, if that's what you're trying to imply. 


     


    First off, she is a high profile lawyer who was known for winning trade dress cases.  She would be a top choice by anyone.


     


    Who knows.  Perhaps she even did it on purpose, because she felt that Judge Koh wanted that admission at that moment.  Women know what other women want.


     


    More importantly, it didn't matter.  She WON with her other arguments.  The injunction that Apple wanted on the Tab was denied by the judge.

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  • Reply 28 of 30
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    kdarling wrote: »
    Who knows.  Perhaps she even did it on purpose, because she felt that Judge Koh wanted that admission at that moment.  Women know what other women want.

    What?

    You really will spew any old nonsense to attempt to justify your bias.

    You seem to be struggling with this one, Darling.
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  • Reply 29 of 30
    paul94544paul94544 Posts: 1,027member
    Even if Apple does not win every part of its case and comes away without an outright ban, it has a moral victory at the very least, and additionally what it has done is made Samsung think twice and spend significant resources designing around and at least attempting to avoid copying. This institutionalized theft has to stop. As an Apple shareholder, I have invested over $100K of my hard earned money over the last 7 years in Apple and I congratulate Apple on going after a blatant thief and I hope they get a favorable ruling and compensation for the theft of their inventions, R&D investments and so on. Also competitors are and will think twice before copying the whole enchalada right down to the box and packaging too. C'mon - anyone who tries to argue that it is not a copy based on rectangles and all the usual simplistic diversionary tactics are just muddying the waters - that's not the real issue here. Samsung got caught with its hands in the cookie jar and just like an 8 year old child, pulled his hand away claiming "I didn't steal it" while we all can see the cookie in the child's hand. Also reminds me of those footballers playing soccer when they deliberately hack a guy down to stop them scoring a goal, the sight of the offender claiming innocence is commical. Hey I don't blame Samsung too much - they were just trying to stop Apple scoring a certain goal, so they did what they could and commited a blatant foul. Now Apple gets it's penalty - thats called "enforcing the rules of the game" and the other player gets a red card. Crying about not being able to have your cookie is not the point
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  • Reply 30 of 30
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by KDarling View Post


     


    Heck, my wife can't tell our remote controls apart while in her hands... and they're totally different shapes!   She's just not mentally tuned like that.



     


    Your wife is blonde, yes?

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