Where do you come up with this stuff? That can't be a serious claim. Apple is a tiny player?
He is, of course, referring to the "mantra" of the iHater crowd. They most certainly DO claim Apple is a tiny, minor, irrelevant player that has been defeated by both Microsoft and Google and thrown onto the trash heap of history. Just ask any one of them here on AI. They'll set you straight.
He is, of course, referring to the "mantra" of the iHater crowd. They most certainly DO claim Apple is a tiny, minor, irrelevant player that has been defeated by both Microsoft and Google and thrown onto the trash heap of history. Just ask any one of them here on AI. They'll set you straight.
I hadn't even heard an "iHATER" claim Apple is a small player in smartphones. I think that one's coming from someone's imagination.
I personally don't see any chance that Apple could buy Blackberry. IMHO the necessary regulatory bodies wouldn't permit it.
Yup.
That's the same reason I doubt Samsung or any other smartphone hardware company has a chance in buying the whole company.
The sale won't get interesting until blackberry decides to split their assets. At that point I could see Apple and Microsoft teaming up to buy blackberry's patent portfolio. Blackberry's device and software arms are dead though.
That's the same reason I doubt Samsung or any other smartphone hardware company has a chance in buying the whole company.
The sale won't get interesting until blackberry decides to split their assets. At that point I could see Apple and Microsoft teaming up to buy blackberry's patent portfolio. Blackberry's device and software arms are dead though.
After the way Apple and Microsoft ran an end-around play on the understanding they had with DoJ on the Nortel patent bid they'd be getting a whole lot more scrutiny on this one if they chose to get involved. IMO I don't see it.
Yes, I know that.I still can't undertand the US only part.
Seriously Apple, get your f*cking act together. If Bezos was runing Apple, he would've already used some billions to buy some studios and sell movies and TV shows worldwide at the same price,same day, no restrictions. That way other studios would be forced to do the same.
If Bezos was running Apple, there wouldn't be billions of dollars to spend.
Troll off. If you were and good at business, you'd have one.
Troll off. If you were and good at business, you'd have one.
Seriously? The iHaters trumpet Android's 80% market share (shipment).
That's hardly claiming "Apple is a small player in smartphones". The days of circling the wagons is long gone. Apple is a beast in mobile and no one claims they aren't.
IMHO Apple should buy them in whole or part. Better to get the patents and IP rather than allow a legal enemy to obtain them and shield themselves or strengthen their position against you.
Blackberry has always had a strong government presence so Apple could use that to move deeper into enterprise. I know they have made a lot of headway there but more would definitely pad the bottom line.
Blackberry was working in the automotive space too. Again absorb and use the tech if it helps.
That's hardly claiming "Apple is a small player in smartphones". The days of circling the wagons is long gone. Apple is a beast in mobile and no one claims they aren't.
That's hardly claiming "Apple is a small player in smartphones". The days of circling the wagons is long gone. Apple is a beast in mobile and no one claims they aren't.
No one claimed that Apple was a small player in smart phones.
I said that the iHaters were constantly claiming that Apple was a small player in mobile phones - and they do.
No one claimed that Apple was a small player in smart phones.
I said that the iHaters were constantly claiming that Apple was a small player in mobile phones - and they do.
We'll just disagree then. You won't bother looking for who's claimed that, at least in several years, and there's no proving a negative. No biggie either way, but it does seem like a throwback to the old wagon circlin' from the day's when Apple really was a small player. Those days are long, long gone.
IMHO Apple should buy them in whole or part. Better to get the patents and IP rather than allow a legal enemy to obtain them and shield themselves or strengthen their position against you.
Blackberry has always had a strong government presence so Apple could use that to move deeper into enterprise. I know they have made a lot of headway there but more would definitely pad the bottom line.
Blackberry was working in the automotive space too. Again absorb and use the tech if it helps.
Just one opinion FOR.
Their patents are coming up on the 20 year mark when then anyone can use that tech. It'll be wasting good money buying BB for patents that will soon expire.
Google will buy it. They buy everything. Their business plan is to incrementally co-opt and acquire anything of value. Advertisers and cockroaches will be all that remains. Resistance is futile.
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy
Where do you come up with this stuff? That can't be a serious claim. Apple is a tiny player?
He is, of course, referring to the "mantra" of the iHater crowd. They most certainly DO claim Apple is a tiny, minor, irrelevant player that has been defeated by both Microsoft and Google and thrown onto the trash heap of history. Just ask any one of them here on AI. They'll set you straight.
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Originally Posted by pedromartins
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The iPhone 4 will see iOS7, but it's performance while runing iOS7 makes me think twice about it. ..
You mean like iOS 6 on my 3GS??
HTC and Lenovo Cant buy it for Political Reasons.
Patents isn't even worth 2B and even they are 1B, It will be a Joint Buying like from Nortel Wireless
Google already has Motorola.
Samsung dont need them.
Microsoft has Nokia.
HP and IBM not in, so who else?
Sounds like really dead in the water to me. Its market value of 5B is highly valued, even 2B is too much.
I hadn't even heard an "iHATER" claim Apple is a small player in smartphones. I think that one's coming from someone's imagination.
Yup.
That's the same reason I doubt Samsung or any other smartphone hardware company has a chance in buying the whole company.
The sale won't get interesting until blackberry decides to split their assets. At that point I could see Apple and Microsoft teaming up to buy blackberry's patent portfolio. Blackberry's device and software arms are dead though.
Why wouldn't they? (Not saying Apple would buy it)
After the way Apple and Microsoft ran an end-around play on the understanding they had with DoJ on the Nortel patent bid they'd be getting a whole lot more scrutiny on this one if they chose to get involved. IMO I don't see it.
If Bezos was running Apple, there wouldn't be billions of dollars to spend.
Troll off. If you were and good at business, you'd have one.
Seriously? The iHaters trumpet Android's 80% market share (shipment).
That's hardly claiming "Apple is a small player in smartphones". The days of circling the wagons is long gone. Apple is a beast in mobile and no one claims they aren't.
Blackberry has always had a strong government presence so Apple could use that to move deeper into enterprise. I know they have made a lot of headway there but more would definitely pad the bottom line.
Blackberry was working in the automotive space too. Again absorb and use the tech if it helps.
Just one opinion FOR.
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That's hardly claiming "Apple is a small player in smartphones". The days of circling the wagons is long gone. Apple is a beast in mobile and no one claims they aren't.
Their words deny it
Their actions confirm it
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Happened even faster than I predicted. Wow. Textbook lesson in how to ignore seismic market shifts.
Yep, in a word, "complacency!"
Not complacency, pride.
They were in denial for a year or so thinking that touch screen was just a fad and that a physical keyboard would win out in the end.
They should have jumped on Android right away.
They still could go with Android but their pride is getting in the way.
No one claimed that Apple was a small player in smart phones.
I said that the iHaters were constantly claiming that Apple was a small player in mobile phones - and they do.
I disagree blackberry should have never gone android.
The benefit of blackberry was a closed safe secure ecosystem. All the things android is not.
If anything blackberry should have partnered with Microsoft and moved to windows phone with Nokia.
First, they were asleep or too proud to understand what Steve Jobs announced, ie; iPhone 2007.
Second, their so idiotic way of advertising Wake Up was the dumbest any company could ever come up with.
I felt so bad for Apple store employees as well as customers who were in that store when those morons wearing some black dress holding Wake Up signs!
Everyone thought it was Samsung! But those idiots even though they denied it but supported whoever was behind it because they didn't go after Samsung.
How dumb Samsung is and when it will be their turn to go down the toilet!
We'll just disagree then. You won't bother looking for who's claimed that, at least in several years, and there's no proving a negative. No biggie either way, but it does seem like a throwback to the old wagon circlin' from the day's when Apple really was a small player. Those days are long, long gone.
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I said that the iHaters were constantly claiming that Apple was a small player in mobile phones - and they do.
Can you show an example.
Their patents are coming up on the 20 year mark when then anyone can use that tech. It'll be wasting good money buying BB for patents that will soon expire.