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Originally Posted by Ireland
Because they are ugly.
Seriously- these colours remind me of the old Excel/Word for Mac icons circa 2004 especially that predominant blue looks like the Samsung Galaxy colour in a Best Buy display. It's like let's do mostly white with a splash of some garish colour of some sort over it. Plus they are so one dimensional- flat.
This is my first look at this interface, since I do not have iOS7 beta. Not sure what to think yet. It's good to have a change, I'll see how it feels over time.
At first the icons and UI seem a little odd -- but you quickly get used to them... to the point where I prefer them.
Also, they are refining the icons and UI as they progress through the various beta releases.
Another consideration: I think that Apple is moving towards infinitely-scalable icons and objects -- that can present themselves to best advantage -- regardless of screen-size. resolution or current magnification level.
They currently use raster images for icons with multiple copies required for different displays. Raster images do not scale well, are bulky and difficult to manipulate.
Vector images are lean and mean -- easily and infinitely scalable.
The Icon pane not only looks the same as iOS, but regarding the layout also Launchpad in OS X. I wonder how much design change we will see in Mavericks. So far there don't seem to be that many design changes in Mavericks.
Had a bit of a play. Really like Notes, it's way cleaner than the "Legal" pad which no one outside of the US really uses.
That's the thing with skeumorphism though really isn't it? It can only form an emotional attachment for the user if, and only if, they understand what is represented.
If you've never been in a casino you'll not really understand the gaming table of Game Centre. If you're not from a country that uses yellow legal pad then you'll not really understand the look. You'll have a basic understanding that this is a notepad and this has something to do with gaming but you'll not form that emotional attachment and therefore the skeumorphism approach has lost its appeal.
My guess is that access to iWork for iCloud will be included with purchase of paid iWork apps. I hope I'm wrong. Including them for free on iOS and OSX devices also would be bad news for MS (Office) and Google (Docs and Drive).
Another consideration: I think that Apple is moving towards infinitely-scalable icons and objects -- that can present themselves to best advantage -- regardless of screen-size. resolution or current magnification level.
They currently use raster images for icons with multiple copies required for different displays. Raster images do not scale well, are bulky and difficult to manipulate.
Vector images are lean and mean -- easily and infinitely scalable.
That is the very first sensible argument I've seen for shifting away from "sophisticated" to "sophomoric" design principles. If it IS to make the UI work with vector graphics instead of bitmaps, then HOORAY!
This is my first look at this interface, since I do not have iOS7 beta. Not sure what to think yet. It's good to have a change, I'll see how it feels over time.
If you want to see where the design concept is going, just turn on your TV. Look at the stuff on the bottom of the screen -- not full-screen animations, but the "text" stuff like names and locations and such.
Every TV graphics package introduced in the last 12 months or so is using flat font with no drop shadows and flat graphics with no borders, shadows or "depth" elements. Vibrant colors have been dropped for "softer," almost pastel shades.
It's hard for the average person to appreciate the difference because you don't have the luxury of comparing last year's TV graphics with this year's side-by-side, but it is VERY much like comparing iOS6 to iOS7.
That is the very first sensible argument I've seen for shifting away from "sophisticated" to "sophomoric" design principles. If it IS to make the UI work with vector graphics instead of bitmaps, then HOORAY!
Layering, depth, glossiness. The appearance of objects was more indicative of how they were to be used in iOS6. In 7 everything is just another blah panel.
EDIT: Lest I give the wrong impression, it doesn't really matter to me. I'm neither for nor against the new look. It won't affect my buying decisions at all and I'm sure I'll adapt. I think it's a retrograde, but not one that really matters all that much.
Layering, depth, glossiness. The appearance of objects was more indicative of how they were to be used in iOS6. In 7 everything is just another blah panel.
EDIT: Lest I give the wrong impression, it doesn't really matter to me. I'm neither for nor against the new look. It won't affect my buying decisions at all and I'm sure I'll adapt. I think it's a retrograde, but not one that really matters all that much.
I guess we just have a difference of opinion. To me iOS 6 is tacky and iOS 7 looks more clean an minimalist. When it comes to design it's so subjective I don't think there is a right or wrong answer. My guess is when iOS 7 comes out people will update, spend a little time getting used to it and move on with their life. Apple wasn't stupid like Microsoft was removing the start button and not providing an easy way to boot to desktop. Most people have way more important things in their life to care about than the design of their smartphone OS.
I guess we just have a difference of opinion. To me iOS 6 is tacky and iOS 7 looks more clean an minimalist. When it comes to design it's so subjective I don't think there is a right or wrong answer.
You're right. Still, given that my reputation around here leads me to be considered wrong until proven less wrong, I defer to your judgement!
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
My guess is when iOS 7 comes out people will update, spend a little time getting used to it and move on with their life. [...] Most people have way more important things in their life to care about than the design of their smartphone OS.
"The first thing we ask is, what do we want people to feel? ....then we begin to craft around our intention."
Well, I'm a longtime Apple fan. I love Apple products. I love their philosophy of minimalism, elegance, and delighting their customers.
And I think iOS 7 is damn ugly! What I feel when I look at it, and especially its icons, is BLECH!!
Well, Apple obviously thinks that it's fine. And since they have an infinitely greater record of successful product launches, I doubt if they really care that you don't like it.
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Originally Posted by SockRolid
Welcome to AppleInsider! Just so you know, there will be lots of newbie trolls hitting the site as iOS 7 and iPhone "5S" and "5C" are rolled out. Just remember not to feed the more obvious ones. Especially the low-post-count one-line wonders.
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Originally Posted by Ireland
Because they are ugly.
Seriously- these colours remind me of the old Excel/Word for Mac icons circa 2004 especially that predominant blue looks like the Samsung Galaxy colour in a Best Buy display. It's like let's do mostly white with a splash of some garish colour of some sort over it. Plus they are so one dimensional- flat.
Here's hoping it looks better in person.
At first the icons and UI seem a little odd -- but you quickly get used to them... to the point where I prefer them.
Also, they are refining the icons and UI as they progress through the various beta releases.
Another consideration: I think that Apple is moving towards infinitely-scalable icons and objects -- that can present themselves to best advantage -- regardless of screen-size. resolution or current magnification level.
They currently use raster images for icons with multiple copies required for different displays. Raster images do not scale well, are bulky and difficult to manipulate.
Vector images are lean and mean -- easily and infinitely scalable.
Login to your iCloud account, then try to go to beta.icloud.com
I'm using new iCloud Beta right now.
Cheers!
That's the thing with skeumorphism though really isn't it? It can only form an emotional attachment for the user if, and only if, they understand what is represented.
If you've never been in a casino you'll not really understand the gaming table of Game Centre. If you're not from a country that uses yellow legal pad then you'll not really understand the look. You'll have a basic understanding that this is a notepad and this has something to do with gaming but you'll not form that emotional attachment and therefore the skeumorphism approach has lost its appeal.
My guess is that access to iWork for iCloud will be included with purchase of paid iWork apps. I hope I'm wrong. Including them for free on iOS and OSX devices also would be bad news for MS (Office) and Google (Docs and Drive).
I hate it. Bring back Linen as the background. The icons are livable, though.
Originally Posted by Rogifan
Why?
Contrast! Plus, it was gorgeous.
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Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum
Another consideration: I think that Apple is moving towards infinitely-scalable icons and objects -- that can present themselves to best advantage -- regardless of screen-size. resolution or current magnification level.
They currently use raster images for icons with multiple copies required for different displays. Raster images do not scale well, are bulky and difficult to manipulate.
Vector images are lean and mean -- easily and infinitely scalable.
That is the very first sensible argument I've seen for shifting away from "sophisticated" to "sophomoric" design principles. If it IS to make the UI work with vector graphics instead of bitmaps, then HOORAY!
I really hope you're right.
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Originally Posted by dillio
This is my first look at this interface, since I do not have iOS7 beta. Not sure what to think yet. It's good to have a change, I'll see how it feels over time.
If you want to see where the design concept is going, just turn on your TV. Look at the stuff on the bottom of the screen -- not full-screen animations, but the "text" stuff like names and locations and such.
Every TV graphics package introduced in the last 12 months or so is using flat font with no drop shadows and flat graphics with no borders, shadows or "depth" elements. Vibrant colors have been dropped for "softer," almost pastel shades.
It's hard for the average person to appreciate the difference because you don't have the luxury of comparing last year's TV graphics with this year's side-by-side, but it is VERY much like comparing iOS6 to iOS7.
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
What was sophisticated about iOS 6?
Layering, depth, glossiness. The appearance of objects was more indicative of how they were to be used in iOS6. In 7 everything is just another blah panel.
EDIT: Lest I give the wrong impression, it doesn't really matter to me. I'm neither for nor against the new look. It won't affect my buying decisions at all and I'm sure I'll adapt. I think it's a retrograde, but not one that really matters all that much.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rogifan
I guess we just have a difference of opinion. To me iOS 6 is tacky and iOS 7 looks more clean an minimalist. When it comes to design it's so subjective I don't think there is a right or wrong answer.
You're right. Still, given that my reputation around here leads me to be considered wrong until proven less wrong, I defer to your judgement!
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Originally Posted by Rogifan
My guess is when iOS 7 comes out people will update, spend a little time getting used to it and move on with their life. [...] Most people have way more important things in their life to care about than the design of their smartphone OS.
True, but:
Marge: "It's very easy to criticize."
Homer: "Fun, too!"
"The first thing we ask is, what do we want people to feel? ....then we begin to craft around our intention."
Well, I'm a longtime Apple fan. I love Apple products. I love their philosophy of minimalism, elegance, and delighting their customers.
And I think iOS 7 is damn ugly! What I feel when I look at it, and especially its icons, is BLECH!!
Well, Apple obviously thinks that it's fine. And since they have an infinitely greater record of successful product launches, I doubt if they really care that you don't like it.