I wonder why they would not use traditional CT and MRI for their work.
If I understand correctly... They took those scans previous to the operation and then during the operation when they cut them open they used AR to tie into those scans to better see whats going on.
Oh, so in other words the iPad now has access to the PAX network that always existed in the OR. Instead of viewing the imaging on a monitor, the surgeon can now view it on an iPad. What is the advantage with the iPad in this situation?
This is incredible stuff. If Apple come come up with an iOS-driven heads-up display (like Google Glass), that would really take off in areas like this.
Even just working wi google glass would be tons useful for this kind of thing. Split second response is vital at those kinds of times.
What they would likely need is a combo though. Many times surgeons doing that kind of work use magnifying lenses so the 'google glass' part would be perhaps just on top of that. But I feel sure that someone would make a model of that type if the support was there. Show vital or even just a red/yellow/green. Diagrams even if they are just there as a safety blanket and so on
Imagine firefighters going into a building being able to see a diagram of the layout and where they are, tracking locations of team mates and talking to them in real time. Both groups might find being able to record what's happening for later review useful even if done via streaming to a pocket device or nearby computer. For learning or legal
It was undoubtedly more expensive than an iPad, but somehow cheaper non-bespoke medical technology rarely translates into lower medical bills.
A lot of families have run into a similar game. For years parents have fought with insurance companies over high priced, devoted devices for assisted communication. With companies refusing to cover the costs of basic computers that would do the job for cheaper because they could be used for games etc. Came back up again with the iPad when AAC apps like proloquo came out. Insurance companies would rather spend 10k on a big bulky thing than $1k for an iPad, case/mount, apps.
Even just working wi google glass would be tons useful for this kind of thing. Split second response is vital at those kinds of times.
Surgeons are already wearing protective glasses often equipped with microscopes. Google glass would not work in that situation. Besides the current vitals monitors are visible to everyone on the team most often monitored by others not the surgeons themselves.
When I go to the doctor and see them using a large screen tv in the exam room I just want to scream at the chunkiness of it. I have several gripes about medical record keeping in the USA including: why do they make it nearly impossible for the patient to have copies of their own records - we paid for the test, give us the results; why aren't records portable - keeping the records to themselves (again which we paid for) results in needless repeated tests or missed diagnosis; why do we have to wait for the doctor no matter what time the appointment is - if we make them wait, we are charged.
Just insist on the data. I live on both sides of the pond, and in Europe I get the results without asking, in the US they treat patients like imbeciles, so I have to put up a fight to get the data, but I refuse to leave before getting what I want and paid for.
Similarly, in Europe I get meds in factory original packaging, sealed and with documentation on side effects, ingredients, etc. at a fraction of the cost of the same stuff that I get in the US out of bulk containers in generic packaging without any documentation at much higher cost. US healthcare is way overrated.
Oh, so in other words the iPad now has access to the PAX network that always existed in the OR. Instead of viewing the imaging on a monitor, the surgeon can now view it on an iPad. What is the advantage with the iPad in this situation?
Obviously you can use the built in camera to provide a real time overlay.
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His specialty is surgery on doctors?
And on the same day, tens maybe even hundreds of other doctors completed the same operation without the aid of an ipad without any complications.
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A "doctor surgeon", huh?
His specialty is surgery on doctors?
AH! AH!
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But.. Consumption iToys!! /sIndeed!
I can hardly wait for AngryLiver® for iPod Touch to be released.
No, no, no. That's the Android version.
I wonder if Dex uses an iPad in his surgeries.
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I wonder why they would not use traditional CT and MRI for their work.
If I understand correctly... They took those scans previous to the operation and then during the operation when they cut them open they used AR to tie into those scans to better see whats going on.
Oh, so in other words the iPad now has access to the PAX network that always existed in the OR. Instead of viewing the imaging on a monitor, the surgeon can now view it on an iPad. What is the advantage with the iPad in this situation?
Even just working wi google glass would be tons useful for this kind of thing. Split second response is vital at those kinds of times.
What they would likely need is a combo though. Many times surgeons doing that kind of work use magnifying lenses so the 'google glass' part would be perhaps just on top of that. But I feel sure that someone would make a model of that type if the support was there. Show vital or even just a red/yellow/green. Diagrams even if they are just there as a safety blanket and so on
Imagine firefighters going into a building being able to see a diagram of the layout and where they are, tracking locations of team mates and talking to them in real time. Both groups might find being able to record what's happening for later review useful even if done via streaming to a pocket device or nearby computer. For learning or legal
Or they use their iPads.
A lot of families have run into a similar game. For years parents have fought with insurance companies over high priced, devoted devices for assisted communication. With companies refusing to cover the costs of basic computers that would do the job for cheaper because they could be used for games etc. Came back up again with the iPad when AAC apps like proloquo came out. Insurance companies would rather spend 10k on a big bulky thing than $1k for an iPad, case/mount, apps.
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Even just working wi google glass would be tons useful for this kind of thing. Split second response is vital at those kinds of times.
Surgeons are already wearing protective glasses often equipped with microscopes. Google glass would not work in that situation. Besides the current vitals monitors are visible to everyone on the team most often monitored by others not the surgeons themselves.
I'd like my doctor using both hands please lol
Just insist on the data. I live on both sides of the pond, and in Europe I get the results without asking, in the US they treat patients like imbeciles, so I have to put up a fight to get the data, but I refuse to leave before getting what I want and paid for.
Similarly, in Europe I get meds in factory original packaging, sealed and with documentation on side effects, ingredients, etc. at a fraction of the cost of the same stuff that I get in the US out of bulk containers in generic packaging without any documentation at much higher cost. US healthcare is way overrated.
Obviously you can use the built in camera to provide a real time overlay.