Quad cores and an SSD. Alas I will not be putting my own SSD in the mini this time.
If the new Haswell chips are out early in September I could see Apple doing a quiet launch before the big iPhone reveal. I just have this sense that Apple is waiting on other things, possibly TB 2. TB 2 would do wonders for both the iMac and the Mini. The other wild card is the Mac Pro, I can see Apple using its launch as a vehicle to introduce a completely new Mini or a replacement for it. Nobody knows for sure when the Mac Pro will come either, however I believe the chips Apple will use will also become available in September.
September / October is going to be very interesting.
They can do an event or a quiet launch, I don't really care. I don't even care if they wait for Thunderbolt 2 but it would certainly be nice as they didn't wait for USB 3 in 2011.
Is TB2 integrated into the Haswell chipset or can it be?
By the way, once the Haswell mini does get announced, I will start the Broadwell mini wishlist
They can do an event or a quiet launch, I don't really care. I don't even care if they wait for Thunderbolt 2 but it would certainly be nice as they didn't wait for USB 3 in 2011.
All good things take time. However sometimes I do wonder if Apple is just plain stupid when it ones to releasing machines. It would be extremely sad if the new Mini comes with chips that have been available for six months now.
Is TB2 integrated into the Haswell chipset or can it be?
I don't believe so. It is my understanding that Intel may attempt to integrate TB into chip sets in the future. I look at it this way TB2 hasn't even been released yet while Haswell has been on the market for sometime.
By the way, once the Haswell mini does get announced, I will start the Broadwell mini wishlist
So you are that type of guy?
Broadwell could be another one of those very interesting updates that only seem to happen ever four years or so. The process shrink will give Intel an incredible amount of room to work with. To this end I expect to see a variety of SoC solutions along with more conventional GPU / CPU combos.
That will all be interesting of course but why get too wrapped up in it if you have just purchased a new Mini? It seems like a way to make yourself dissatisfied with your current hardware.
Broadwell could be another one of those very interesting updates that only seem to happen ever four years or so. The process shrink will give Intel an incredible amount of room to work with. To this end I expect to see a variety of SoC solutions along with more conventional GPU / CPU combos.
That will all be interesting of course but why get too wrapped up in it if you have just purchased a new Mini? It seems like a way to make yourself dissatisfied with your current hardware.
It's going to become like a tradition almost for as long as I am on this board or as long as it lasts. The Mac mini has become my favorite and I am not looking to buy one every year, hell I am not guaranteed to get a 2013 model though I am always looking forward to what comes down the pike and what Intel and Apple can do. For me I am all about the desktops. I would say my interest is with the mini, Pro, and iMac in that order. I don't have a need for a Pro really because I don't do enough on it. It would be like having a car with a V8 engine (my current car is a V6 and serves me well) and using it to go to the grocery store.
A quad core mobile computer is enough for me right now.
By the way, I was looking at this again:
What would the Iris Pro be of the 650M if (according to that graph) the 9400M was 55% supposedly of the 8600M GT?
It may be unrealistic, but Samsung's going to announce a smart watch on Sept 4.
Given that the recent fixation on smart watches started with a rumour out of Cupertino, I doubt that Apple will let Sept 4 pass with the entire news cycle devoted to Samsung.
It may be unrealistic, but Samsung's going to announce a smart watch on Sept 4.
Given that the recent fixation on smart watches started with a rumour out of Cupertino, I doubt that Apple will let Sept 4 pass with the entire news cycle devoted to Samsung.
Mac Mini update on Wednesday?
The reason that Samsung is doing it on September 4th though is to try and one-up Apple. There are hilarious blog posts online already where they display such a cognitive dissonance in that they are being ultra-critical of the idea of an iWatch despite Apple not even hinting they are making a watch and saying it will fail before they do it and it will be a useless product but they follow it up by saying 'anyway Samsung and Google are doing it first and it will probably be cheaper anyway'. In other words, if anybody but Apple makes a smartwatch, they are innovating and doing it first but if Apple makes one then it'll fail. Honestly, some people just try to hate Apple too much. People also seem to be ignoring the fact that Sony has a watch out, Samsung is late to the party ( ).
As for the Mini, there's a Thunderbolt 2 motherboard been announced by Asus:
It's going to become like a tradition almost for as long as I am on this board or as long as it lasts. The Mac mini has become my favorite and I am not looking to buy one every year, hell I am not guaranteed to get a 2013 model though I am always looking forward to what comes down the pike and what Intel and Apple can do. For me I am all about the desktops. I would say my interest is with the mini, Pro, and iMac in that order. I don't have a need for a Pro really because I don't do enough on it.
That has never stopped anybody before.
It would be like having a car with a V8 engine (my current car is a V6 and serves me well) and using it to go to the grocery store.
A quad core mobile computer is enough for me right now.
By the way, I was looking at this again:
What would the Iris Pro be of the 650M if (according to that graph) the 9400M was 55% supposedly of the 8600M GT?
That iS the thing, benchmarks are over the place. If you look at some OpenCL benchmarks Iris demolishes the competition. Of course these are not Mac OS benchmarks. So answering your question would be guess work at the very least, the big unknown here is Mavericks and Apples new drivers.
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While I'm here, one thing to contemplate is that the Mini could have shipped already if they where going to do a simple update. The long delay for the Mini and the iMac tend to support that Apple is waiting on those new haswell's in September.
At most, I'm looking to spend maybe $800 for the updated model if it follows the same price ranges as last year. More than likely, I will settle for the base model.
In other words, my budget is not a Mac Pro budget.
You are assuming that the next Mini will look like today's Mini. My point is that it is not a given that this will be the case. Why would Apple overhaul the platform. There are a few reasons:
The new Mac Pro is arriving! They may try to pop up flagging Mini sales by riding the coat tails of the Mac Pro launch with a new form factor.
The very fact that sales are slow (an understatement) is incentive enough to rev the platform.
Haswell is a very interesting platform in both the desktop and mobile variants. However in both cases a little more power capability would go a very long way to making an extremely attractive Mini. In other words the upsell model could have middle of the road performance.
Lenovo now has an equivalent of the Mini. Apple likes unique so this could be an incentive. Plus they could easily leverage their thermal design of the Mac Pro in a smaller design. A Mac Pro lite machine if you will.
There is also the possibility that Apple will regress with the new Mini and not give it the sort of update we are all waiting for. Due to poor sales they could pull some former Mac Pro behaviors and phone in the Mini update.
In the end there are a whole host of possibilities including killing the platform altogether. Best not to get too wrapped up in the hardware until it is actually here.
Don't be on the defensive please. I am not knocking you financially at all.
Oh I'm not and besides I can always save up. I just thought that was a peculiar statement.
wizard69 - Form factor is not really an issue though price is. If Apple wants to change the form factor, I have no issue, especially if they make it black. If they make it a bright color say like the bright blue iMac then I will pass.
Edit: Okay I found the information I was finally looking for regarding the dual core i5 processors with the HD 4600 graphics. They are scheduled for a Q4 release this year according to the official Intel website which is probably where I should have looked from the very beginning.
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If the new Haswell chips are out early in September I could see Apple doing a quiet launch before the big iPhone reveal. I just have this sense that Apple is waiting on other things, possibly TB 2. TB 2 would do wonders for both the iMac and the Mini. The other wild card is the Mac Pro, I can see Apple using its launch as a vehicle to introduce a completely new Mini or a replacement for it. Nobody knows for sure when the Mac Pro will come either, however I believe the chips Apple will use will also become available in September.
September / October is going to be very interesting.
Is TB2 integrated into the Haswell chipset or can it be?
By the way, once the Haswell mini does get announced, I will start the Broadwell mini wishlist
Good concept you have.
I sense sarcasm. I'm impatient, so what can I say. Haswell is out, so let's roll out the 2013 mini.
So you are that type of guy?
Broadwell could be another one of those very interesting updates that only seem to happen ever four years or so. The process shrink will give Intel an incredible amount of room to work with. To this end I expect to see a variety of SoC solutions along with more conventional GPU / CPU combos.
That will all be interesting of course but why get too wrapped up in it if you have just purchased a new Mini? It seems like a way to make yourself dissatisfied with your current hardware.
It's going to become like a tradition almost for as long as I am on this board or as long as it lasts. The Mac mini has become my favorite and I am not looking to buy one every year, hell I am not guaranteed to get a 2013 model though I am always looking forward to what comes down the pike and what Intel and Apple can do. For me I am all about the desktops. I would say my interest is with the mini, Pro, and iMac in that order. I don't have a need for a Pro really because I don't do enough on it. It would be like having a car with a V8 engine (my current car is a V6 and serves me well) and using it to go to the grocery store.
A quad core mobile computer is enough for me right now.
By the way, I was looking at this again:
What would the Iris Pro be of the 650M if (according to that graph) the 9400M was 55% supposedly of the 8600M GT?
It may be unrealistic, but Samsung's going to announce a smart watch on Sept 4.
Given that the recent fixation on smart watches started with a rumour out of Cupertino, I doubt that Apple will let Sept 4 pass with the entire news cycle devoted to Samsung.
Mac Mini update on Wednesday?
The reason that Samsung is doing it on September 4th though is to try and one-up Apple. There are hilarious blog posts online already where they display such a cognitive dissonance in that they are being ultra-critical of the idea of an iWatch despite Apple not even hinting they are making a watch and saying it will fail before they do it and it will be a useless product but they follow it up by saying 'anyway Samsung and Google are doing it first and it will probably be cheaper anyway'. In other words, if anybody but Apple makes a smartwatch, they are innovating and doing it first but if Apple makes one then it'll fail. Honestly, some people just try to hate Apple too much. People also seem to be ignoring the fact that Sony has a watch out, Samsung is late to the party (
As for the Mini, there's a Thunderbolt 2 motherboard been announced by Asus:
http://www.electronista.com/articles/13/08/21/new.z87.deluxe.quad.motherboard.features.16.usb.ports.thunderbolt.2/
so I don't think they're waiting on that but we've still got to hear about the dual-core i5 and i7 Haswell CPUs:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7021/introducing-the-dualcore-haswell-skus
The entry Mini can't come out until those do. The quad-i7 model should be ready to go:
http://ark.intel.com/products/75117/Intel-Core-i7-4700MQ-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_40-GHz
I expect the dual-cores will arrive September 10th as Intel has an event.
That's what I needed to hear! Thank you sir. Gives me a glimmer of hope!
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While I'm here, one thing to contemplate is that the Mini could have shipped already if they where going to do a simple update. The long delay for the Mini and the iMac tend to support that Apple is waiting on those new haswell's in September.
In other words, my budget is not a Mac Pro budget.
Hopefully with your price you can purchase the new Mac Mini when it comes out soon.
And why wouldn't I be able to?
Maybe you won't like the refactoring.
Explain.
Don't be on the defensive please.I am not knocking you financially at all.
You are assuming that the next Mini will look like today's Mini. My point is that it is not a given that this will be the case. Why would Apple overhaul the platform. There are a few reasons:
In the end there are a whole host of possibilities including killing the platform altogether. Best not to get too wrapped up in the hardware until it is actually here.
Oh I'm not and besides I can always save up. I just thought that was a peculiar statement.
wizard69 - Form factor is not really an issue though price is. If Apple wants to change the form factor, I have no issue, especially if they make it black. If they make it a bright color say like the bright blue iMac then I will pass.
Edit: Okay I found the information I was finally looking for regarding the dual core i5 processors with the HD 4600 graphics. They are scheduled for a Q4 release this year according to the official Intel website which is probably where I should have looked from the very beginning.
Do you think the price will be the same for the basic model they have out now or more costly?