Man, I wish we had the schwarz and weiss iPhones here in Australia, all we have are the plain black and white ones.
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Until they introduce a 128gb model, I still have a need to carry my iPod classic. But until they start lowering prices on flash (meaning Apple, not In general). I will be purchasing lower capacity models. So I'm stuck wi two devices. The iPhone is just too expensive for my tastes (off contract). And I need an off contract phone to use in china. Currently I have two iPhones for that, but carrying those both with me and a my classic, and my MBP and my iPad is getting a little crazy for travel every other month. What would solve my problem? A 5"-6" wifi/LTE iPhone with 128gb of storage. Then I could drop the 2nd phone, the classic and potentially my iPad and go from traveling with 5 devices to 2.
The 5 will take over - just doesn't make sense to keep the 4S around, for multiple reasons.
Agreed. However, if the iPhone 5C is just the iPhone 5 with a cheaper case and other minor tweaks, really, what's the point of even keeping the 5 around. To me it just creates more options and is a much more confusing line-up for the iPhone. Personally I'd rather se just the two new models and that be it. The 3-tier system worked in the past because they were all significantly different. We will have to wait and see ow different the ip5c will be to the 5 but just based on rumors, what's the point?
Let look at that. iPhone 4 at the baseline. The 4S had Siri, was twice as fast, had a much better camera. Then the iPhone 5 was 2x faster than the 4S, much lighter weight, much better quality screen and bigger screen, much better camera with better camera features. So if you see the differences and apply this same comparison with these rumored devices, you just don't see the clear gaps in features from one to the other.
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Anyhow... may the schwarz be with you.
It wasn't supposed to be a Spaceballs reference, just dry humour. Maybe it doesn't translate across cultures. Sorry I wasted your time, have a great weekend!
Agreed. However, if the iPhone 5C is just the iPhone 5 with a cheaper case and other minor tweaks, really, what's the point of even keeping the 5 around. To me it just creates more options and is a much more confusing line-up for the iPhone. Personally I'd rather se just the two new models and that be it. The 3-tier system worked in the past because they were all significantly different. We will have to wait and see ow different the ip5c will be to the 5 but just based on rumors, what's the point?
Let look at that. iPhone 4 at the baseline. The 4S had Siri, was twice as fast, had a much better camera. Then the iPhone 5 was 2x faster than the 4S, much lighter weight, much better quality screen and bigger screen, much better camera with better camera features. So if you see the differences and apply this same comparison with these rumored devices, you just don't see the clear gaps in features from one to the other.
You make great points.
Since it seems Apple has not handicapped the 5C (which is a good thing) there's less differentiation other than materials used.
A 2 tier product structure would make sense and Apple can use various storage options to bridge all the pricing gaps from $350-$850.
I think first they need to sort out the naming. iPhone 5c, 5s, 5, 4s, 4. Is an s better than a c? Is a 4s better than a 5c? Its becoming the worst naming convention out there and Apple on everything else have the best.
iPod Shuffle, Nano, Classic, Touch - simple iPad Mini, iPad - simple Mac mini, iMac, Mac Pro - simple
They should just kill off all old phone and have an iPhone mini, iPhone and iPhone Pro. Simple to understand. No wired letters and get some clear differences in the ranges rather than the budget phone just being an old model.
I think first they need to sort out the naming. iPhone 5c, 5s, 5, 4s, 4. Is an s better than a c? Is a 4s better than a 5c? Its becoming the worst naming convention out there and Apple on everything else have the best.
iPod Shuffle, Nano, Classic, Touch - simple
iPad Mini, iPad - simple
Mac mini, iMac, Mac Pro - simple
They should just kill off all old phone and have an iPhone mini, iPhone and iPhone Pro. Simple to understand. No wired letters and get some clear differences in the ranges rather than the budget phone just being an old model.
That might be a problem if they keep the 4 or 4s around, but I don't think they will. The number 4 obviously just signifies an older generation.
Not saying it's the best naming convention ever, but I also don't think it's the worst. Calling the 5c the iPhone Mini would be confusing because "mini" signifies a smaller device which everyone assumes will not be the case.
The "Pro" designation would not be as bad but it tends to signify that it is primarily for business use. I don't think that's the image Apple wants to project for the iPhone because so much of the high-end smartphone market is made up of people who primarily use them for personal use.
Of course, all of these memory constraint issues could be addressed if Apple sold one of each type phone, and gave them the ability to support microSIM technology, so we could add as much memory as we need. I bought a 32GB iPhone 4S last year, hoping that it would meet my needs. But if I put my entire music collection on it it leaves only 2-3 GB for apps.
Apple suggests using iTunes Match and then streaming my music to my phone, and only downloading what I want to keep local. But then I'll end up hitting the limits of my data plan (3GB/mo).
Of course, all of these memory constraint issues could be addressed if Apple sold one of each type phone, and gave them the ability to support microSIM technology…
Untrustworthy, unintegratable, worse system.
Apple suggests using iTunes Match and then streaming my music to my phone, and only downloading what I want to keep local. But then I'll end up hitting the limits of my data plan (3GB/mo).
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Man, I wish we had the schwarz and weiss iPhones here in Australia, all we have are the plain black and white ones.
OMG, I really wasted almost 5 minutes of my life trying to figure out wtf you are talking about...
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Anyhow... may the schwarz be with you.
Let look at that. iPhone 4 at the baseline. The 4S had Siri, was twice as fast, had a much better camera. Then the iPhone 5 was 2x faster than the 4S, much lighter weight, much better quality screen and bigger screen, much better camera with better camera features. So if you see the differences and apply this same comparison with these rumored devices, you just don't see the clear gaps in features from one to the other.
OMG, I really wasted almost 5 minutes of my life trying to figure out wtf you are talking about...
" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />
Anyhow... may the schwarz be with you.
It wasn't supposed to be a Spaceballs reference, just dry humour. Maybe it doesn't translate across cultures. Sorry I wasted your time, have a great weekend!
Yeah I think the 5C will start at 8GB but likely have more storage options.
If the 5 is discontinued I could see Apple having 8GB, 16GB, and 32GB 5C models ranging from $350-$550.
You make great points.
Since it seems Apple has not handicapped the 5C (which is a good thing) there's less differentiation other than materials used.
A 2 tier product structure would make sense and Apple can use various storage options to bridge all the pricing gaps from $350-$850.
iPod Shuffle, Nano, Classic, Touch - simple
iPad Mini, iPad - simple
Mac mini, iMac, Mac Pro - simple
They should just kill off all old phone and have an iPhone mini, iPhone and iPhone Pro. Simple to understand. No wired letters and get some clear differences in the ranges rather than the budget phone just being an old model.
I think first they need to sort out the naming. iPhone 5c, 5s, 5, 4s, 4. Is an s better than a c? Is a 4s better than a 5c? Its becoming the worst naming convention out there and Apple on everything else have the best.
iPod Shuffle, Nano, Classic, Touch - simple
iPad Mini, iPad - simple
Mac mini, iMac, Mac Pro - simple
They should just kill off all old phone and have an iPhone mini, iPhone and iPhone Pro. Simple to understand. No wired letters and get some clear differences in the ranges rather than the budget phone just being an old model.
That might be a problem if they keep the 4 or 4s around, but I don't think they will. The number 4 obviously just signifies an older generation.
Not saying it's the best naming convention ever, but I also don't think it's the worst. Calling the 5c the iPhone Mini would be confusing because "mini" signifies a smaller device which everyone assumes will not be the case.
The "Pro" designation would not be as bad but it tends to signify that it is primarily for business use. I don't think that's the image Apple wants to project for the iPhone because so much of the high-end smartphone market is made up of people who primarily use them for personal use.
Or not available anywhere the iPhone 5 is.
Apple suggests using iTunes Match and then streaming my music to my phone, and only downloading what I want to keep local. But then I'll end up hitting the limits of my data plan (3GB/mo).
Untrustworthy, unintegratable, worse system.
Wi-Fi.