Hmmm... That's weird. I've AirPlay'ed purchased (protected) content from my iPhone to a friend's AppleTV before without needing to log into it. Is there something I'm missing or not understanding that the feature mentioned in the article does that I cannot currently do?
With this, you don't AirPlay anything from your iPhone. You only use AirPlay to authorize the AppleTV to stream your iTunes purchases in the cloud. You don't stream from your iTunes library on your computer (it's not on this network) or anything from your iPhone (which you can already do).
If they did refresh it would be the fastest ever since they just refreshed about 7-8 months ago. The only reason to do a hardware refresh now would be if they have a substantially different device to sell.
They didnt refresh it 7-8 months ago. Changing the size of the exact same chip does not a refresh make. It's called Apple TV 3rd generation still- for a reason. It's been a year and 6 months since an update. I think we see something big this spring- which will be 2 years from the ATV3 update. The spring is a total dead spot now that they moved the iPad to winter/late fall. So that's where we see the new ATV or iWatch (if it happens).
Hmmm... That's weird. I've AirPlay'ed purchased (protected) content from my iPhone to a friend's AppleTV before without needing to log into it. Is there something I'm missing or not understanding that the feature mentioned in the article does that I cannot currently do?
With this, you don't AirPlay anything from your iPhone.
You only use AirPlay to authorize the AppleTV to stream your iTunes purchases in the cloud. You don't stream from your iTunes library on your computer (it's not on this network) or anything from your iPhone (which you can already do).
Ah, Now I understand my confusion...
I did not realize I had direct access from my AppleTV to my "Purchased" content from the iTunes Store. LOL Now this makes sense. I guess I've always been connected to my iTunes library and never needed to even consider such a feature?
Okay so no Apple TV next week at the event. Not the same as no new Apple TV later in the year or via a soft release without being mentioned at an event
Okay so no Apple TV next week at the event. Not the same as no new Apple TV later in the year or via a soft release without being mentioned at an event
Too popular for a soft release. Even moving from 2 to 3 got stage time at the iPad 3 event last year. It sold 6 million units this year- it has substantial momentum.
The article is written in a funny way. It's not sharing between AppleTvs necessarily, it's sharing between itunes accounts.
It's not even that. More like a rift on how chrome cast works.
Basically I'm at your place and we decide we want to watch a movie. Say like iron man 3. You don't own or particularly want to buy it. But I have it. Right now I would have to have you log out so I can log in and we can stream it off my 'in the cloud' or I could download it to my idevice and AirPlay it. They are saying that with this new system I could just AirPlay my 'in the cloud' to your Apple TV off my iphone or iPad, while you stay logged in and without my having to download it
If Apple ever decides to make a app store for ATV 3 do they need to flip the switch or they have a come out with more powerful hardware? Can the current one handle it? Roku has a channel I really want
Please add Mediastreamus.com cable to your list of cable/internet providers to have more free channels. We need to be able to even tune the PayForView channels without having to have their "converter box". Even they will admit that many people who get cable boxes do it for the "Time Display". Imagine that - they pay for a digital clock below their TV !
It's not even that. More like a rift on how chrome cast works.
Basically I'm at your place and we decide we want to watch a movie. Say like iron man 3. You don't own or particularly want to buy it. But I have it. Right now I would have to have you log out so I can log in and we can stream it off my 'in the cloud' or I could download it to my idevice and AirPlay it. They are saying that with this new system I could just AirPlay my 'in the cloud' to your Apple TV off my iphone or iPad, while you stay logged in and without my having to download it
OK. Finally, something that makes sense. I can see how that would be useful. I just couldn't see how it would be useful to transfer from one AppleTV to another - which is the way it sounded at first.
OK. Finally, something that makes sense. I can see how that would be useful. I just couldn't see how it would be useful to transfer from one AppleTV to another - which is the way it sounded at first.
Funny how Chromecast was ridiculed yet Apple gets lauded for adding a functionality very much like it. It's a great idea, and the only benefit I can see why all Apple TVs have the same exact 'channels' versus allowing the user to choose which channels are on it. Hotels can place a Apple TV in every room and the user wouldn't have to worry about having to log off upon check out or even if you're just visiting someone and there's a Apple TV in the room.
I want a hardware upgrade!!! The software can only go so far at current time.
What's the matter? Specs aren't 1337 enough to beat GoogleTVChromecast in forums wars? What do you want from the hardware? Ten HDMI outputs? A 5-inch screen?
That doesn't sound terribly useful. How often do you have someone else's Apple TV on the same network as yours and want to share content?
I could see having two Apple TVs in a home, for example, but they would typically be set up with the same user.
Where does it say anything about the same network. Read it again. Great idea. At a friends house, own a movie but don't have it on your device? No worries, just tell the Apple TV to stream it from apples servers to your friends Apple TV with no need for them to log in as you.
Hmmm... That's weird. I've AirPlay'ed purchased (protected) content from my iPhone to a friend's AppleTV before without needing to log into it. Is there something I'm missing or not understanding that the feature mentioned in the article does that I cannot currently do?
From what I've always understood, content is authorized for playback at the source not on the AppleTV itself. According to this article, a DRM key is sent to the AppleTV from the AirPlay source. That key is used to decrypt the stream.
And I just tested this on my own AppleTV... completely logged out and stopped all sharing and rebooted.
Protected movie plays fine over Airplay, no need to log in or authorize anything on the AppleTV side.
Why do people find this so difficult to understand. Maybe the article is really badly written.
I buy iron man three, but it isn't on my iPhone. I visit a friend with an Apple TV.
Without having to download the movie to my phone, I am able to authorise the movie to stream from iTunes to the Apple TV using an authorisation sent from my iPhone to my friends Apple TV. They don't have to log in as me, but because my iOS device is seen by the Apple TV, the movie can be watched as I own it and am present.
I suspect at this point Apple is using the Apple TV for market research. In the meantime, they'll maximize the existing hardware's capabilities and see what floats and what sinks.
Okay so no Apple TV next week at the event. Not the same as no new Apple TV later in the year or via a soft release without being mentioned at an event
If it has significant changes, why would it have a soft release and not be showcased? And if it has no significant changes, why wouldn't it just be appended to the September 10 event?
Sounds more like if this article is correct that there just isn't going to be a new Apple TV at all for another long time.
The difference is that that is ALL that Chromecast can do while it's simply an added feature for AppleTV - on top of hundreds of other features.
No one criticized Chromecast because of its streaming capability. It was criticized because it couldn't do anything else.
Actually it's all the Chromecast is allowed to do. Shortly after release a dev devised a way to give it Airplay like functionality which was quickly patched up by Google to break it.
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Hmmm... That's weird. I've AirPlay'ed purchased (protected) content from my iPhone to a friend's AppleTV before without needing to log into it. Is there something I'm missing or not understanding that the feature mentioned in the article does that I cannot currently do?
With this, you don't AirPlay anything from your iPhone.You only use AirPlay to authorize the AppleTV to stream your iTunes purchases in the cloud. You don't stream from your iTunes library on your computer (it's not on this network) or anything from your iPhone (which you can already do).
They didnt refresh it 7-8 months ago. Changing the size of the exact same chip does not a refresh make. It's called Apple TV 3rd generation still- for a reason. It's been a year and 6 months since an update. I think we see something big this spring- which will be 2 years from the ATV3 update. The spring is a total dead spot now that they moved the iPad to winter/late fall. So that's where we see the new ATV or iWatch (if it happens).
Hmmm... That's weird. I've AirPlay'ed purchased (protected) content from my iPhone to a friend's AppleTV before without needing to log into it. Is there something I'm missing or not understanding that the feature mentioned in the article does that I cannot currently do?
With this, you don't AirPlay anything from your iPhone.
You only use AirPlay to authorize the AppleTV to stream your iTunes purchases in the cloud. You don't stream from your iTunes library on your computer (it's not on this network) or anything from your iPhone (which you can already do).
Ah, Now I understand my confusion...
I did not realize I had direct access from my AppleTV to my "Purchased" content from the iTunes Store. LOL Now this makes sense. I guess I've always been connected to my iTunes library and never needed to even consider such a feature?
My bad. I apologize for being naive! LOL
Too popular for a soft release. Even moving from 2 to 3 got stage time at the iPad 3 event last year. It sold 6 million units this year- it has substantial momentum.
It's not even that. More like a rift on how chrome cast works.
Basically I'm at your place and we decide we want to watch a movie. Say like iron man 3. You don't own or particularly want to buy it. But I have it. Right now I would have to have you log out so I can log in and we can stream it off my 'in the cloud' or I could download it to my idevice and AirPlay it. They are saying that with this new system I could just AirPlay my 'in the cloud' to your Apple TV off my iphone or iPad, while you stay logged in and without my having to download it
If Apple ever decides to make a app store for ATV 3 do they need to flip the switch or they have a come out with more powerful hardware? Can the current one handle it? Roku has a channel I really want
OK. Finally, something that makes sense. I can see how that would be useful. I just couldn't see how it would be useful to transfer from one AppleTV to another - which is the way it sounded at first.
Funny how Chromecast was ridiculed yet Apple gets lauded for adding a functionality very much like it. It's a great idea, and the only benefit I can see why all Apple TVs have the same exact 'channels' versus allowing the user to choose which channels are on it. Hotels can place a Apple TV in every room and the user wouldn't have to worry about having to log off upon check out or even if you're just visiting someone and there's a Apple TV in the room.
What's the matter? Specs aren't 1337 enough to beat
GoogleTVChromecast in forums wars? What do you want from the hardware? Ten HDMI outputs? A 5-inch screen?The hardware is fine. I just want more UK-centric content, please.
The difference is that that is ALL that Chromecast can do while it's simply an added feature for AppleTV - on top of hundreds of other features.
No one criticized Chromecast because of its streaming capability. It was criticized because it couldn't do anything else.
Where does it say anything about the same network. Read it again. Great idea. At a friends house, own a movie but don't have it on your device? No worries, just tell the Apple TV to stream it from apples servers to your friends Apple TV with no need for them to log in as you.
Why do people find this so difficult to understand. Maybe the article is really badly written.
I buy iron man three, but it isn't on my iPhone. I visit a friend with an Apple TV.
Without having to download the movie to my phone, I am able to authorise the movie to stream from iTunes to the Apple TV using an authorisation sent from my iPhone to my friends Apple TV. They don't have to log in as me, but because my iOS device is seen by the Apple TV, the movie can be watched as I own it and am present.
If it has significant changes, why would it have a soft release and not be showcased? And if it has no significant changes, why wouldn't it just be appended to the September 10 event?
Sounds more like if this article is correct that there just isn't going to be a new Apple TV at all for another long time.
Actually it's all the Chromecast is allowed to do. Shortly after release a dev devised a way to give it Airplay like functionality which was quickly patched up by Google to break it.