I am extremely disappointed they did not include support for band 41 on the Sprint version of these new iPhones. Band 41 would allow access to the massive amount of Clearwire spectrum that is now being rolled out as Sprint LTE. Sprint uses 3 bands for LTE and the new iPhone will only support 2 of them but not 2.5 GHz spectrum. China Mobile also uses the same spectrum which is even more puzzling why it wasn't included in the Sprint iPhone. It could take anywhere from a few weeks to a few months depending on permits to upgrade the old Sprint towers to LTE with 1900Mhz but the addition of 800MHz and 2.5GHz will actually only take a few days since it is just adding a card and a few very minor things. That means the entire Sprint network will have 2.5GHz LTE support very quickly and neither the iPhone 5c or 5S will be able to use that for a good portion of that 2 year contract.
So it's not cheap- we get it. But why buy it if for $100 more you get so much more? in other words- why should anyone buy this?
It's a fuzzy concept called value: people judge value differently. If I'm a college student and I don't need the fingerprint hotness or 64-bit, maybe saving $100 up front makes this more attractive.
I continue to wonder why people thought Apple would produce a throw away phone with no profit margin. Investors like money coming in don't they? How can Apple please both parties? They have to make money on hardware because that's where their income comes from.
Yeah investors do like money coming in.....my Apple stock down 22.8% since I invested.....on the other hand my Nokia stock is up 59.3% since investing. Sad.
If you take a close look at the green case photo in the article, the one of the bottom audio, speaker and charging cutouts, they do not align very well. I don't think it is a user installation issue because some of the holes are too high and others too low and the speakers holes are off in height as well as laterally. This seems odd since they are manufactured by Apple. I could understand it from a third party but Apple is usually much more precise than this.
If you take a close look at the green case photo in the article, the one of the bottom audio, speaker and charging cutouts, they do not align very well. I don't think it is a user installation issue because some of the holes are too high and others too low and the speakers holes are off in height as well as laterally. This seems odd since they are manufactured by Apple. I could understand it from a third party but Apple is usually much more precise than this.
Thats because he put the case on his old iPhone 5 to see if it would fit. That is not an iPhone 5c.
Yeah investors do like money coming in.....my Apple stock down 22.8% since I invested.....on the other hand my Nokia stock is up 59.3% since investing. Sad.
So you bought Apple at basically the worst time ever and you didn't make a horrible move with Nokia. Sounds like a normal investor, you win some you lose some. That doesn't mean Apple is doing anything wrong and certainly doesn't mean Nokia is doing anything right.
[B]Daniel[/B] and [B]AI[/B], a solid close-up article on this interesting new phone. The pictures convey the juiciness of the plastic. If it weren't for the colors, I'd be very interested, but i'm not the intended market.
The people who are still wondering why this phone instead of the 5S for $100 more, or why plastic instead of the touch's anodized colors, are just immune to the sensuality of polycarbonate done right. Maybe they'll get it when they hold one in hand, but I kind of doubt it. I think it's a case of hemisphere lock-up. (Guess which one.)
The 5c looks to be a fairly competent performer. If they gimped the phone in order to not make it compete with the 5s (ie no Siri) it would have been a little lame. If they released it at its current performance, but at a much lower price- it would cannibalize the 5s. My guess is Apple leaves things as is so they sell a lot of 5s's because its only $100 more. After a quarter or two when the surge is over they will drop the price of the 5c substantially.
And please.... I know it is *Apple*.... but stop trying to make 'Apple plastic' amazing. It is plastic. It is 'cheap'
The 5c is a bit on the cheap side, it just isn't priced inexpensively.
The people who are still wondering why this phone insead of the 5S for $100 more, or why plastic instead of the touch's anodized colors, are just immune to the sensuality of polycarbonite done right. Maybe they'll get it when they hold one in hand, but I kind of doubt it. I think it's a case of hemisphere lock-up. (Guess which one.)
I think most of those people are thinking solely about off-contract phones ($100 isn't much of a difference when you're paying $600+ for the phone). However, on-contract, $100 is half off.
Considering that the vast majority of the target demographic for the 5C likely isn't buying high-end phones off contract at full price (no matter what the brand), half off is going to appeal to them.
If Apple went out of its way to produce hideously garish colors I don't think it could top the butt f-ugly palate they intro'd yesterday. The most complimentary thing I can say about these colors is they're reminiscent of bodily functions. Maybe I'm wrong and these colors will attract teeny boppers in Asia. I hope so for my AAPL sake and stake.
This is the first time I've seen Apple stumble on a design in quite some time. Very disappointed in these colors!
"The most complimentary thing I can say about these colors is they're reminiscent of bodily functions. "
Dude, if your bodily functions are blue, and green, you might wanna quit posting on AI and contact your doctor. Just saying.
They really needed to price this at $400. Not $550. And make it free on contract. Hard to justify upgrading from a 4S to a 5S. Where are the killer features.
If Apple went out of its way to produce hideously garish colors I don't think it could top the butt f-ugly palate they intro'd yesterday. The most complimentary thing I can say about these colors is they're reminiscent of bodily functions. Maybe I'm wrong and these colors will attract teeny boppers in Asia. I hope so for my AAPL sake and stake.
This is the first time I've seen Apple stumble on a design in quite some time. Very disappointed in these colors!
Have you seen the new Toyota Corolla commercials showing all the generations with Corolla? The last one for today's Corolla has everyone in crazy bright colors. I'm not saying I like it, but I'm 41 and don't have to keep up with those latest crazes.
Why do people care about the 5S vs 5s, or the hole in the 5c case? Maybe I'm blinded by all the nice things I see that I just could not bother giving a flying f**k.
The 5c looks to be a fairly competent performer. If they gimped the phone in order to not make it compete with the 5s (ie no Siri) it would have been a little lame. If they released it at its current performance, but at a much lower price- it would cannibalize the 5s. My guess is Apple leaves things as is so they sell a lot of 5s's because its only $100 more. After a quarter or two when the surge is over they will drop the price of the 5c substantially.
And please.... I know it is *Apple*.... but stop trying to make 'Apple plastic' amazing. It is plastic. It is 'cheap'
The 5c is a bit on the cheap side, it just isn't priced inexpensively.
Please stop with the inane "plastic is always cheap" nonsense. Not all plastic is cheap. There are plastics that cost a fortune - and plastics that don't feel the least bit cheap. My Lexus has plastic in it. In fact, every Lexus I've owned had plastic in it. And, no, they didn't look or feel cheap.
It's really amazing how no-nothings who have never actually even seen the product (much less held it) think they know more than Apple about producing a product.
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I am extremely disappointed they did not include support for band 41 on the Sprint version of these new iPhones. Band 41 would allow access to the massive amount of Clearwire spectrum that is now being rolled out as Sprint LTE. Sprint uses 3 bands for LTE and the new iPhone will only support 2 of them but not 2.5 GHz spectrum. China Mobile also uses the same spectrum which is even more puzzling why it wasn't included in the Sprint iPhone. It could take anywhere from a few weeks to a few months depending on permits to upgrade the old Sprint towers to LTE with 1900Mhz but the addition of 800MHz and 2.5GHz will actually only take a few days since it is just adding a card and a few very minor things. That means the entire Sprint network will have 2.5GHz LTE support very quickly and neither the iPhone 5c or 5S will be able to use that for a good portion of that 2 year contract.
(re your last question): What, and lose his job?
It's a fuzzy concept called value: people judge value differently. If I'm a college student and I don't need the fingerprint hotness or 64-bit, maybe saving $100 up front makes this more attractive.
I continue to wonder why people thought Apple would produce a throw away phone with no profit margin. Investors like money coming in don't they? How can Apple please both parties? They have to make money on hardware because that's where their income comes from.
Yeah investors do like money coming in.....my Apple stock down 22.8% since I invested.....on the other hand my Nokia stock is up 59.3% since investing. Sad.
If you take a close look at the green case photo in the article, the one of the bottom audio, speaker and charging cutouts, they do not align very well. I don't think it is a user installation issue because some of the holes are too high and others too low and the speakers holes are off in height as well as laterally. This seems odd since they are manufactured by Apple. I could understand it from a third party but Apple is usually much more precise than this.
mstone --
That's because it's an iPhone 5 in the iPhone 5C case.
If you take a close look at the green case photo in the article, the one of the bottom audio, speaker and charging cutouts, they do not align very well. I don't think it is a user installation issue because some of the holes are too high and others too low and the speakers holes are off in height as well as laterally. This seems odd since they are manufactured by Apple. I could understand it from a third party but Apple is usually much more precise than this.
Thats because he put the case on his old iPhone 5 to see if it would fit. That is not an iPhone 5c.
So you bought Apple at basically the worst time ever and you didn't make a horrible move with Nokia. Sounds like a normal investor, you win some you lose some. That doesn't mean Apple is doing anything wrong and certainly doesn't mean Nokia is doing anything right.
In a way it would be great if Apple distinguishes the iPhone from the iPod by having black faces for the iPhone and white faces for the iPod.
This is meant to be a reply to Pazuzu, post #5.
The people who are still wondering why this phone instead of the 5S for $100 more, or why plastic instead of the touch's anodized colors, are just immune to the sensuality of polycarbonate done right. Maybe they'll get it when they hold one in hand, but I kind of doubt it. I think it's a case of hemisphere lock-up. (Guess which one.)
The 5c looks to be a fairly competent performer. If they gimped the phone in order to not make it compete with the 5s (ie no Siri) it would have been a little lame. If they released it at its current performance, but at a much lower price- it would cannibalize the 5s. My guess is Apple leaves things as is so they sell a lot of 5s's because its only $100 more. After a quarter or two when the surge is over they will drop the price of the 5c substantially.
And please.... I know it is *Apple*.... but stop trying to make 'Apple plastic' amazing. It is plastic. It is 'cheap'
The 5c is a bit on the cheap side, it just isn't priced inexpensively.
Thx, I guess that's what I get for not reading the whole article.
The people who are still wondering why this phone insead of the 5S for $100 more, or why plastic instead of the touch's anodized colors, are just immune to the sensuality of polycarbonite done right. Maybe they'll get it when they hold one in hand, but I kind of doubt it. I think it's a case of hemisphere lock-up. (Guess which one.)
I think most of those people are thinking solely about off-contract phones ($100 isn't much of a difference when you're paying $600+ for the phone). However, on-contract, $100 is half off.
Considering that the vast majority of the target demographic for the 5C likely isn't buying high-end phones off contract at full price (no matter what the brand), half off is going to appeal to them.
And please.... I know it is *Apple*.... but stop trying to make 'Apple plastic' amazing. It is plastic. It is 'cheap'
Maybe watch the video.
If Apple went out of its way to produce hideously garish colors I don't think it could top the butt f-ugly palate they intro'd yesterday. The most complimentary thing I can say about these colors is they're reminiscent of bodily functions. Maybe I'm wrong and these colors will attract teeny boppers in Asia. I hope so for my AAPL sake and stake.
This is the first time I've seen Apple stumble on a design in quite some time. Very disappointed in these colors!
"The most complimentary thing I can say about these colors is they're reminiscent of bodily functions. "
Dude, if your bodily functions are blue, and green, you might wanna quit posting on AI and contact your doctor. Just saying.
100% certain that Apple doesn't "need" to do anything you claim.
Why? Answer.
If it's hard, you're not even trying.
If Apple went out of its way to produce hideously garish colors I don't think it could top the butt f-ugly palate they intro'd yesterday. The most complimentary thing I can say about these colors is they're reminiscent of bodily functions. Maybe I'm wrong and these colors will attract teeny boppers in Asia. I hope so for my AAPL sake and stake.
This is the first time I've seen Apple stumble on a design in quite some time. Very disappointed in these colors!
Have you seen the new Toyota Corolla commercials showing all the generations with Corolla? The last one for today's Corolla has everyone in crazy bright colors. I'm not saying I like it, but I'm 41 and don't have to keep up with those latest crazes.
Why do people care about the 5S vs 5s, or the hole in the 5c case? Maybe I'm blinded by all the nice things I see that I just could not bother giving a flying f**k.
Please stop with the inane "plastic is always cheap" nonsense. Not all plastic is cheap. There are plastics that cost a fortune - and plastics that don't feel the least bit cheap. My Lexus has plastic in it. In fact, every Lexus I've owned had plastic in it. And, no, they didn't look or feel cheap.
It's really amazing how no-nothings who have never actually even seen the product (much less held it) think they know more than Apple about producing a product.