Who's Localytics? Are they a well-known firm? Considering that even well-known ones -- like Canalsys, IDC, Gartner -- put out pap (methodologically and otherwise), do you know if this Localytics is an equally, if not more, credible outfit?
As to Sina Tech, what do you mean by 'votes'? Where? Some website? Is that supposed to be scientific?
The simple truth is, there is no basis for someone to say, as the original poster did, that "5C sales are TERRIBLE". That is pure, unadulterated nonsense. With a side of FUD.
Well, the other side of the coin would be, "Who are you?".
True, to say that sales are terrible might not be accurate, even if the 5c sells at a 1:10 rate against the 5s.
By the way, who the hell said anything about the Sina Tech poll being scientific. Talk about fud.
Besides all that, I'm absolutely positive that if Tim Cook himself came out and said that sales of the 5c in China are terrible you'd pull a Munster and deny deny deny.
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IDC's analysis anticipates that Apple's introduction of the lower-cost iPhone 5c combined with the consummation of the company's long-rumored deal with China Mobile, the world's largest wireless carrier, will help Apple capture a significantly larger share of the 450 million smartphones IDC expects to be sold in China in 2014.
The China Mobile deal is a must-do for Apple. Eventually China could become Apple's largest market.
Originally Posted by AppleInsider
The report paints a bleak picture for the future of Google's rival Android operating system, predicting that the now-dominant OS will begin to decline in 2013 and slowly be overtaken by iOS and smaller, "more open" competitors.
Same as most other places in the world. Android handsets sell well where the carriers don't subsidize handsets, and/or where users can't get iPhone, and/or where users just don't know any better. China will be no different. All Chinese cell network subscribers will sooner or later know about iPhone and most of them will want one.
Oh, and as for the smaller, "more open" competitors, Samsung is hard at work on Tizen. Samsung scarcely mentions the word "android" in their product launch shows or literature. It just isn't a selling point for them. TouchWiz is what they care about, and it already runs on Tizen. And yes, Tizen runs Android apps. Future Samsung customers might never realize that their new Galaxy connects to the Samsung Hub instead of Google Play. Samsung would finally control their own destiny, no longer relying on a foreign company for their mobile OS. Samsung is on the Technical Steering Group of Tizen, along with Intel.
Well, the other side of the coin would be, "Who are you?".
True, to say that sales are terrible might not be accurate, even if the 5c sells at a 1:10 rate against the 5s.
By the way, who the hell said anything about the Sina Tech poll being scientific. Talk about fud.
Besides all that, I'm absolutely positive that if Tim Cook himself came out and said that sales of the 5c in China are terrible you'd pull a Munster and deny deny deny.
[ Localytics is the leading marketing and analytics platform for mobile and web apps. Localytics works with some of the world’s most well-known brands, like eBay, Salesforce, Microsoft and The New York Times, helping them create great experiences for their customers and maximizing profitability, engagement, lifetime value and loyalty. Localytics provides analytics and marketing for more than 1 billion devices across more than 20,000 apps. Localytics’ headquarters are located in Boston, MA. Learn more at http://www.localytics.com ]
Thanks for agreeing that 'sales are terrible' might not be accurate. If you think Sina Tech was not scientific, why bother to post it?
And, as for Localytics, I am impressed by your ability to cut and paste.
Why don't we continue this conversation if/when Tim Cook comes out and says "....sales of the 5C in China are terrible."
Funny. On the surface, it looks like the chart is all about Android and iOS, but in fact, once again, it's really IDC championing the lost cause that is Windows Phone/Mobile. For years now their projections show MS having a miraculous recovery, steadily approaching a 10% market share within a year or two. This time last year, they were predicting they'd be in double digits NOW.
I think MS would have to go belly up and cease to exist before IDC finally gave up their promotion of an "Imminent Microsoft Renaissance". I suppose until that day comes, there's a chance that they will actually be right one of these times, and have the opportunity to say "we told you so!". For now, though, they're just looking more consistently wrong than anything else.
And why would they project the iPhone doubling in 2014, then just stopping dead and staying stagnant at that level for the remaining 3 years? (While Windows Phone steadily adds share throughout?)
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Who's Localytics? Are they a well-known firm? Considering that even well-known ones -- like Canalsys, IDC, Gartner -- put out pap (methodologically and otherwise), do you know if this Localytics is an equally, if not more, credible outfit?
As to Sina Tech, what do you mean by 'votes'? Where? Some website? Is that supposed to be scientific?
The simple truth is, there is no basis for someone to say, as the original poster did, that "5C sales are TERRIBLE". That is pure, unadulterated nonsense. With a side of FUD.
Well, the other side of the coin would be, "Who are you?".
True, to say that sales are terrible might not be accurate, even if the 5c sells at a 1:10 rate against the 5s.
By the way, who the hell said anything about the Sina Tech poll being scientific. Talk about fud.
Besides all that, I'm absolutely positive that if Tim Cook himself came out and said that sales of the 5c in China are terrible you'd pull a Munster and deny deny deny.
[ Localytics is the leading marketing and analytics platform for mobile and web apps. Localytics works with some of the world’s most well-known brands, like eBay, Salesforce, Microsoft and The New York Times, helping them create great experiences for their customers and maximizing profitability, engagement, lifetime value and loyalty. Localytics provides analytics and marketing for more than 1 billion devices across more than 20,000 apps. Localytics’ headquarters are located in Boston, MA. Learn more at http://www.localytics.com ]
IDC's analysis anticipates that Apple's introduction of the lower-cost iPhone 5c combined with the consummation of the company's long-rumored deal with China Mobile, the world's largest wireless carrier, will help Apple capture a significantly larger share of the 450 million smartphones IDC expects to be sold in China in 2014.
The China Mobile deal is a must-do for Apple. Eventually China could become Apple's largest market.
The report paints a bleak picture for the future of Google's rival Android operating system, predicting that the now-dominant OS will begin to decline in 2013 and slowly be overtaken by iOS and smaller, "more open" competitors.
Same as most other places in the world. Android handsets sell well where the carriers don't subsidize handsets, and/or where users can't get iPhone, and/or where users just don't know any better. China will be no different. All Chinese cell network subscribers will sooner or later know about iPhone and most of them will want one.
Oh, and as for the smaller, "more open" competitors, Samsung is hard at work on Tizen. Samsung scarcely mentions the word "android" in their product launch shows or literature. It just isn't a selling point for them. TouchWiz is what they care about, and it already runs on Tizen. And yes, Tizen runs Android apps. Future Samsung customers might never realize that their new Galaxy connects to the Samsung Hub instead of Google Play. Samsung would finally control their own destiny, no longer relying on a foreign company for their mobile OS. Samsung is on the Technical Steering Group of Tizen, along with Intel.
Well, the other side of the coin would be, "Who are you?".
True, to say that sales are terrible might not be accurate, even if the 5c sells at a 1:10 rate against the 5s.
By the way, who the hell said anything about the Sina Tech poll being scientific. Talk about fud.
Besides all that, I'm absolutely positive that if Tim Cook himself came out and said that sales of the 5c in China are terrible you'd pull a Munster and deny deny deny.
[ Localytics is the leading marketing and analytics platform for mobile and web apps. Localytics works with some of the world’s most well-known brands, like eBay, Salesforce, Microsoft and The New York Times, helping them create great experiences for their customers and maximizing profitability, engagement, lifetime value and loyalty. Localytics provides analytics and marketing for more than 1 billion devices across more than 20,000 apps. Localytics’ headquarters are located in Boston, MA. Learn more at http://www.localytics.com ]
Thanks for agreeing that 'sales are terrible' might not be accurate. If you think Sina Tech was not scientific, why bother to post it?
And, as for Localytics, I am impressed by your ability to cut and paste.
Why don't we continue this conversation if/when Tim Cook comes out and says "....sales of the 5C in China are terrible."
Thanks for agreeing that 'sales are terrible' might not be accurate. If you think Sina Tech was not scientific, why bother to post it?
And, as for Localytics, I am impressed by your ability to cut and paste.
Why don't we continue this conversation if/when Tim Cook comes out and says "....sales of the 5C in China are terrible."
... and I am impressed by your ability to discredit their data.
I think MS would have to go belly up and cease to exist before IDC finally gave up their promotion of an "Imminent Microsoft Renaissance". I suppose until that day comes, there's a chance that they will actually be right one of these times, and have the opportunity to say "we told you so!". For now, though, they're just looking more consistently wrong than anything else.
And why would they project the iPhone doubling in 2014, then just stopping dead and staying stagnant at that level for the remaining 3 years? (While Windows Phone steadily adds share throughout?)
Silliness.