Considering the number of teens on welfare with iPhones for status, at least.
I don't know. Why don't you tell us how many teens with iPhones collect welfare?
And then, tell us how many of them bought their iphones BEFORE they lost a job or became disabled and had to go on welfare. Then, subtract out the number who were given the iPhone as a gift.
IOW, how about actually providing some facts instead of your usual hate-filled innuendo?
How can they possibly know? They’re just stupid cartridges! I wouldn’t put it past them, but how can the hardware know? This sounds like something you know from experience.
Every time I put a cartrige in a laser printer (or my Epson 2200 for that matter) the chip embedded in the cartrige gets interogated and there's a message displayed that the cartrige is an official "HP" in the case of my lasers. So they simply add a bit of extra code to that chip and voila! That chip interrogation has been present on the HP work group printers for at least 3 generations to my knowledge.
I don't know. Why don't you tell us how many teens with iPhones collect welfare?
Not really sure what’s wrong that this is so difficult to believe. I know that I don’t want to believe it myself, because it’s sickening that our taxes are being used this way, but it’s true.
Let’s see, at just one inner city middle school (6-8) in one city in the Midwest, just over two thirds of the student body receive some form of welfare, either at home or additionally through the school system. Of these, roughly half have smartphones (three quarters or so have cell phones) and half of those are iPhones. It’s interesting that they can afford said $40-70 per month plans when their families are on all manner of government programs for room and board.
I can’t give out actual numbers, but I can give the above approximations.
And then, tell us how many of them bought their iphones BEFORE they lost a job or became disabled and had to go on welfare
I can confidently say none. The times I’ve heard and been told from others who’ve heard “check out my new phone” while the child is sitting at state-funded low-income breakfast…
Also, you don’t keep your effing smartphone and plan if you’ve “gone on welfare” unless you have no plans to go off welfare.
What I don't get, is who are these frequent international travelers who need to swap out a local SIM? Frequent International travelers are usually business people. Personally, I need my business associates to be able to reach me anytime, anywhere, which means that I must maintain the original SIM even when abroad. I also carry an unlocked iPhone for use with a local carrier. If someone calls me on my US number, most of the time I don't answer it, but I know they called, so I just call them back on Skype. Obviously, I also need a local SIM to make and receive calls in the foreign country to do errands, business etc. I don't see how a business person can get around carrying two phones or perhaps a dual SIM phone of which there used to be some available from Nokia.
You can pay for a US phone number from Skype and forward your US cell phone calls to that number which in theory could allow you to receive calls on your local SIM carrier when abroad, however it doesn't work reliably and you miss a lot of calls.
Large corporations may afford international roaming. I work for one, but I always buy a local SIM when I travel abroad. I use Google Voice and I get voice mails in my Gmail. I also use Vonage which has free international calls to many countries. My GV number also rings my Vonage number which I forward to the local SIM card. Vonage extensions give me free calls in the reverse direction back home. I was planning on getting a Note 3. But there is no way I'm rewarding Samsung if the US versions also have this nonsense. Nexus 5 it will most likely be.
I don't use Skype, but GV+Vonage works flawlessly. Have been using it for years now.
BTW, at least with T-Mobile, even if you don't pick up the phone, if the phone rings, you are getting dinged for the call. They have deals with international carriers and have to pay them for transferring the call to your phone. Since I discovered this, I have disabled international roaming on my line. I'd expect this to be the case with other carriers as well.
A colleague came back home to find a bill close to $2000 when he lost his phone and the time it took T-Mobile to have the line disconnected. It took innumerable calls to customer service and it was finally only when he spoke to the AA in the CEO's office that the charges were reversed.
I get in a plane and the first thing I do is remove my SIM card. Who needs the grief!
I do believe that you are correct. Android is for the financially disadvantaged, and for those who don't have money to fully use their devices (data etc.). Basically it's for kids, the unemployed, people on welfare and street beggars.
I am sorry but its comments like that give Apple users a bad name. I have a friend who uses a Galaxy S4 and he makes twice the money I make a year. He could easily afford an iPhone but chooses not. I do hope you weren't serious.
I am sorry but its comments like that give Apple users a bad name. I have a friend who uses a Galaxy S4 and he makes twice the money I make a year. He could easily afford an iPhone but chooses not. I do hope you weren't serious.
Sadly Bondom 16, he is. Apple ][ is well known for making such comments.
I don't know. Why don't you tell us how many teens with iPhones collect welfare?
And then, tell us how many of them bought their iphones BEFORE they lost a job or became disabled and had to go on welfare. Then, subtract out the number who were given the iPhone as a gift.
IOW, how about actually providing some facts instead of your usual hate-filled innuendo?
In this case I'd side with TS and I think you would too if you understood the bigger picture.
You, me and most everyone else here is financially comfortable enough to buy multiple computing devices, picking the one most convenient or appropriate for whatever we're doing at the moment. Desktops, laptops, tablets, smartphones, AppleTV's, etc all sitting in many of our homes or on our desks at work. We have a skewed vision of reality.
The low-income among us have real constraints. One device has to serve as their web research portal, their window to social connections, their email provider, their gaming platform, and their phone connection. Saving up several hundred dollars for an iPad or iMac isn't gonna happen for most of them. So what's the option?
A. Visit a rent-to-own with exorbitant prices and where they might lose their computer or gaming device at the first missed weekly payment.
B. Create a savings plan to put away a few dollars each week and still clear enough from the household budget to afford an internet connection to go with it.
C. Get a zero or low down-payment smartphone with a manageable monthly cost that includes a connection to the outside world.
It shouldn't be hard to see the obvious choice and why an iPhone or other smarphone might be owned by someone on welfare. It's not a luxury item for many of them.
...and yes there's studies I can link for you that come to the same or similar conclusions if you can't find them for yourself.
Region Locking DVD's (which was used heavily by Sony) was found to be illegal in Australia. There was no legal reason for stopping people buying their content overseas. In today's globalized economy and larger number of frequent travelers, this kind of behavior is reprehensible...
It doesn't matter, developers have already achieved root for Galaxy Note 3 and any 'lock' will soon be unlocked. That's the beauty of Android
...and when Samsung detects unauthorised binaries, there goes your warranty, such is the nature of the commercial agreement you enter into when you buy a Note 3.
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That's an awfully big generalization.
Considering the number of teens on welfare with iPhones for status, at least.
Anyone really use junk as their phones?
I assumed you have been here long enough to know Apple][. He is, um, unique.
I don't know. Why don't you tell us how many teens with iPhones collect welfare?
And then, tell us how many of them bought their iphones BEFORE they lost a job or became disabled and had to go on welfare. Then, subtract out the number who were given the iPhone as a gift.
IOW, how about actually providing some facts instead of your usual hate-filled innuendo?
How can they possibly know? They’re just stupid cartridges! I wouldn’t put it past them, but how can the hardware know? This sounds like something you know from experience.
Every time I put a cartrige in a laser printer (or my Epson 2200 for that matter) the chip embedded in the cartrige gets interogated and there's a message displayed that the cartrige is an official "HP" in the case of my lasers. So they simply add a bit of extra code to that chip and voila! That chip interrogation has been present on the HP work group printers for at least 3 generations to my knowledge.
Not really sure what’s wrong that this is so difficult to believe. I know that I don’t want to believe it myself, because it’s sickening that our taxes are being used this way, but it’s true.
Let’s see, at just one inner city middle school (6-8) in one city in the Midwest, just over two thirds of the student body receive some form of welfare, either at home or additionally through the school system. Of these, roughly half have smartphones (three quarters or so have cell phones) and half of those are iPhones. It’s interesting that they can afford said $40-70 per month plans when their families are on all manner of government programs for room and board.
I can’t give out actual numbers, but I can give the above approximations.
I can confidently say none. The times I’ve heard and been told from others who’ve heard “check out my new phone” while the child is sitting at state-funded low-income breakfast…
Also, you don’t keep your effing smartphone and plan if you’ve “gone on welfare” unless you have no plans to go off welfare.
What I don't get, is who are these frequent international travelers who need to swap out a local SIM? Frequent International travelers are usually business people. Personally, I need my business associates to be able to reach me anytime, anywhere, which means that I must maintain the original SIM even when abroad. I also carry an unlocked iPhone for use with a local carrier. If someone calls me on my US number, most of the time I don't answer it, but I know they called, so I just call them back on Skype. Obviously, I also need a local SIM to make and receive calls in the foreign country to do errands, business etc. I don't see how a business person can get around carrying two phones or perhaps a dual SIM phone of which there used to be some available from Nokia.
You can pay for a US phone number from Skype and forward your US cell phone calls to that number which in theory could allow you to receive calls on your local SIM carrier when abroad, however it doesn't work reliably and you miss a lot of calls.
Large corporations may afford international roaming. I work for one, but I always buy a local SIM when I travel abroad. I use Google Voice and I get voice mails in my Gmail. I also use Vonage which has free international calls to many countries. My GV number also rings my Vonage number which I forward to the local SIM card. Vonage extensions give me free calls in the reverse direction back home. I was planning on getting a Note 3. But there is no way I'm rewarding Samsung if the US versions also have this nonsense. Nexus 5 it will most likely be.
I don't use Skype, but GV+Vonage works flawlessly. Have been using it for years now.
BTW, at least with T-Mobile, even if you don't pick up the phone, if the phone rings, you are getting dinged for the call. They have deals with international carriers and have to pay them for transferring the call to your phone. Since I discovered this, I have disabled international roaming on my line. I'd expect this to be the case with other carriers as well.
A colleague came back home to find a bill close to $2000 when he lost his phone and the time it took T-Mobile to have the line disconnected. It took innumerable calls to customer service and it was finally only when he spoke to the AA in the CEO's office that the charges were reversed.
I get in a plane and the first thing I do is remove my SIM card. Who needs the grief!
No one! That's why it should be made obsolete. SIM cards are sooo 1991. Do it all in software I say.
I do believe that you are correct. Android is for the financially disadvantaged, and for those who don't have money to fully use their devices (data etc.). Basically it's for kids, the unemployed, people on welfare and street beggars.
I am sorry but its comments like that give Apple users a bad name. I have a friend who uses a Galaxy S4 and he makes twice the money I make a year. He could easily afford an iPhone but chooses not. I do hope you weren't serious.
In this case I'd side with TS and I think you would too if you understood the bigger picture.
You, me and most everyone else here is financially comfortable enough to buy multiple computing devices, picking the one most convenient or appropriate for whatever we're doing at the moment. Desktops, laptops, tablets, smartphones, AppleTV's, etc all sitting in many of our homes or on our desks at work. We have a skewed vision of reality.
The low-income among us have real constraints. One device has to serve as their web research portal, their window to social connections, their email provider, their gaming platform, and their phone connection. Saving up several hundred dollars for an iPad or iMac isn't gonna happen for most of them. So what's the option?
A. Visit a rent-to-own with exorbitant prices and where they might lose their computer or gaming device at the first missed weekly payment.
B. Create a savings plan to put away a few dollars each week and still clear enough from the household budget to afford an internet connection to go with it.
C. Get a zero or low down-payment smartphone with a manageable monthly cost that includes a connection to the outside world.
It shouldn't be hard to see the obvious choice and why an iPhone or other smarphone might be owned by someone on welfare. It's not a luxury item for many of them.
...and yes there's studies I can link for you that come to the same or similar conclusions if you can't find them for yourself.
It doesn't matter, developers have already achieved root for Galaxy Note 3 and any 'lock' will soon be unlocked. That's the beauty of Android
...and when Samsung detects unauthorised binaries, there goes your warranty, such is the nature of the commercial agreement you enter into when you buy a Note 3.