Synaptics buys Samsung partner Validity to take on Apple's AuthenTec Touch ID feature

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  • Reply 21 of 30
    jay-tjay-t Posts: 39member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    I can think of a few places they can stick it.


    Yeah, but it wouldn't hold 8-)

  • Reply 22 of 30
    tzeshantzeshan Posts: 2,351member
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    Originally Posted by sflocal View Post



    And as it has always been, the PC industry in general has zero clue how to use current tech and design appropriate software that hides the the from the user.



    Then comes Apple (a.k.a. Samsung's R&D Department) to once again show how stupid everyone else is and does it right. Now "suddenly" everyone wants to copy.. uhm.. I mean "innovate" better than Apple.



    Cue the iHaters to spin this as "but..but.. Apple didn't invent fingerprints".



    They will argue that fingerprint sensors are prior art Apple can not patent it.  There will usually be a one to two years lag before the copycats have TouchID like Android phones. Apple need to start writing the patent lawsuit papers now. 

  • Reply 23 of 30
    jungmark wrote: »
    Where would Sammy stick a sensor?

    They'll probably make a necklace or beltbuckle you'll need to squeeze to turn your phone on. Or, they'll just make their phone bigger, since it doesn't matter.
  • Reply 24 of 30
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    Originally Posted by akqies View Post





    They saw the they needed to have more than just a fingerprint scanner but also add HW to their A7 chip, which may have required it to be 64-bit do to cryptographic additions to ARMv8 and the new ISA, in order to make this work the way they wanted. Who else can do this? Well, I guess Qualcomm can make this a part of their chip tech or perhaps it could be a separate chip on the MoBo.

    Anand Lal Shimpi said in his review of the A7 that in tests he did the A7 is 825% faster than the iPhone 5 at AES encryption and 245% faster at sha1.  The page can be found here.

     

    He had this to say about the new cryptographic functions of the A7 and ARMv8:

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     ARMv8 also adds some new cryptographic instructions for hardware acceleration of AES and SHA1/SHA256 algorithms. These hardware AES/SHA instructions have the potential for huge increases in performance, just like we saw with the introduction of AES-NI on Intel CPUs a few years back. Both the new advanced SIMD instructions and AES/SHA instructions are really designed to enable a new wave of iOS apps.


  • Reply 25 of 30
    akqiesakqies Posts: 768member
    mechanic wrote: »
    Anand Lal Shimpi said in his review of the A7 that in tests he did the A7 is 825% faster than the iPhone 5 at AES encryption and 245% faster at sha1.  The page can be found here.

    He had this to say about the new cryptographic functions of the A7 and ARMv8:

    Good find. There are also additional features beyond speed and while it all supports my "feelings" I wouldn't claim it as a slam dunk either.
  • Reply 26 of 30
    tzeshan wrote: »
    They will argue that fingerprint sensors are prior art Apple can not patent it.  There will usually be a one to two years lag before the copycats have TouchID like Android phones. Apple need to start writing the patent lawsuit papers now. 

    I was under the impression that you cannot patent an idea... only an implementation of an idea.

    So there can be lots of fingerprint scanners out there... but the method of scanning is what has to be unique.
  • Reply 27 of 30
    matrix07matrix07 Posts: 1,993member
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    Originally Posted by Corrections View Post

    And then remind yourself about how well Google’s implementation and rollout of NFC went. Or Adobe Flash. Or any other differentiating feature that was supposed to be better than iOS.  

    Or face detection.

  • Reply 28 of 30
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    Originally Posted by goofergirls View Post







    "Originally, Samsung Electronics planned to adopt the fingerprint recognition function at the same time as the launch of the Galaxy Note 3. But as the US Validity Chip, the developer of the fingerprint recognition sensor, failed to pass the reliability test, this function was eliminated at the last minute."

    Scamsung has reliability tests??

    fingerprint sensor failed while the rest of their products passed??

    the "face sensor" "security" feature passed??It can be beaten by a potato!!

    maybe the fingerprint sensor couldn't recognise a fingerprint and just unlocked when you touched it with whatever lol.

  • Reply 29 of 30
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member
    apple ][ wrote: »
    Fandroids Sept 2013: Touch ID is such a useless gimmick! And besides, Apple wasn't first! Apple didn't invent fingerprinting! There were a few devices that had fingerprint sensors on them before! Nevermind that they were all bloody useless and did not work properly! I don't want the NSA owning my fingerprints! Apple users are such sheep, but one billion broke ass mofo's buying shitty Android phones are definitely not sheep!

    Fandroids 2014: My new Samsung Galaxy 5 has this new ingenious feature, called Fingerprint ID! It is so damn cool! It may not work as well or as quickly as the Apple version yet, and it is not as secure, but that has already been taken care of, it'll be fixed in Kit Kat version number 4.5.001.78.2! Apple doesn't have a copyright on fingerprints! Damn iSheep!

    Huh, people are so paranoid.
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