Maybe I’m wrong, but isn’t the proper iPad still selling far better?
The 'proper' iPad is by my definition the one that is selling best. Therefore the answer is yes, by definition. According to Gartner, the Mini achieved 60% of combined sales in 1Q and subsequent data is showing the trend towards 7/8" tablets is increasing. The 'improper' tablets seem to be losing favour Analysts are able to get approximations of this based on the ASP provided by Apple.
The 'proper' iPad is by my definition the one that is selling best. Therefore the answer is yes, by definition. According to Gartner, the Mini achieved 60% of combined sales in 1Q and subsequent data is showing the trend towards 7/8" tablets is increasing. The 'improper' tablets seem to be losing favour Analysts are able to get approximations of this based on the ASP provided by Apple.
Thats an interesting perspective, but it still falls short because it has nothing to do with a 7.9" tablet being more desirable in any way than 9.7"
Not according to various reports I've read. It's just the opposite with the Mini handily outselling it's larger brethren if those reports are true. Maybe a "smaller iPad" was the right size all along.
We don't yet have Fusion Drives in MBPs which is something I think people really want.
I wouldn't even be sure the iPod Classic will continue to sell anywhere else but their online clearance store. At some point the number of buyers will drop to a point that continuing to produce more of the same tried-and-true iPod won't make sense to Apple. I think that's probably this year, but it's just a guess.
The rumors of the iPod Classic's death have been greatly exaggerated.
Thats an interesting perspective, but it still falls short because it has nothing to do with a 7.9" tablet being more desirable in any way than 9.7"
The factor is Price, and nothing more.
I hadn't realised just how knowledgeable some of the readers here are. It must be quite difficult to obtain data on each and every purchase of an iPad. I'd love to know your methodology.
Makes one wonder why Apple doesn't produce a 1 inch tablet and sell it for $50.
Just sitting here reminiscing…where are all the naysayers who a little over a year ago insisted that Apple would never release a smaller iPad? The 9.7” size was the perfect size, Steve Jobs said so. You’d have to include a file to whittle down your finger to use anything smaller than the [regular sized] iPad. It would be too complicated for developers to have to support different screen sizes. Etc, etc.
Nope, $100 is WAAAY to slim of a difference between iPad & iPad mini w/ retina display. Never happen.
There is a reason why the iPad mini is $329. Actually, several dozen very good reasons. That's not going to change.
I don't think so; there's a good chance that the iPad mini will replace the iPad 2 at the $399 price point and that the iPad 2 may very well be discontinued this year. It's easier to see the iPad 2 being retired rather than bumping its processor specs-too much fragmentation at this point.
If a retina mini gets the same specs as the 5th gen (which I think it should) then I have no problem with a price increase. But that would have to go with a price reduction on the current mini. Add A6 to the current mini and drop the price to $279-$299.
Thats an interesting perspective, but it still falls short because it has nothing to do with a 7.9" tablet being more desirable in any way than 9.7"
The factor is Price, and nothing more.
Price is "a" factor. One of many. To say that it's nothing more is both arrogant and ignorant. I personally know several people who have a full size iPad but wish they had the mini and some are planning on "upgrading" to a mini. They've already spent the money on a full size iPad. If price was was the ONLY factor as you claim, why would they then go out and spend MORE money to get a mini?
Just sitting here reminiscing…where are all the naysayers who a little over a year ago insisted that Apple would never release a smaller iPad? The 9.7” size was the perfect size, Steve Jobs said so. You’d have to include a file to whittle down your finger to use anything smaller than the [regular sized] iPad. It would be too complicated for developers to have to support different screen sizes. Etc, etc.
What a difference a year makes... LOL
Jobs referred (alluded) to 7" tablets of that time. That is what was o nthe market and clearly the devices her had referred to. The iPad mini has a display that is 40% larger in area than typical 7" diagonal 16:9 aspect ratio tablet displays. LOL
Yo can either speculate based on nothing intelligent whatsoever....or you can rule out the impossible first...and then whatever you're left with is the truth.
Thats an interesting perspective, but it still falls short because it has nothing to do with a 7.9" tablet being more desirable in any way than 9.7"
The factor is Price, and nothing more.
I'm looking at the iPad and the rumoured retina mini and can afford either one. I'm getting the mini because of it's form factor. To say "the factor is Price, and nothing more" makes you sound a little full of yourself.
I hadn't realised just how knowledgeable some of the readers here are. It must be quite difficult to obtain data on each and every purchase of an iPad. I'd love to know your methodology.
Makes one wonder why Apple doesn't produce a 1 inch tablet and sell it for $50.
Thats an interesting perspective, but it still falls short because it has nothing to do with a 7.9" tablet being more desirable in any way than 9.7"
The factor is Price, and nothing more.
My wife has a mini- I think I could somehow find a way, in my overwhelming poverty, to spring the extra $70 to get an iPad 2. Maybe sell an organ. $70 is so much!
I'm in. My local Apple Store Genius Bar (by straw poll) is all in.
If they introduce this, they will have monster sales and it will be back-ordered weeks.
A year ago I held-off buying an iPhone 5 because I really wanted an iPad mini, but no Retina, so no deal. Now I'm really glad I waited. First, iPad mini. Then, new battery for my iP4S as I wait another year for iP6.
I can see the Mini outselling the iPad 5. It's all about mobility ! (And price!)
I also think Apple with go Retina on the Mini. Remember last year how quickly Apple replaced the 30 pin connector on the entire iPad line?
Apple likes uniformity in their product lines.
Or they'll add a retina mini: they also like to tier their products, stills selling the ipad 2 etc. for that reason. Give consumers, ne buyers, a choice.
I'm in. My local Apple Store Genius Bar (by straw poll) is all in.
If they introduce this, they will have monster sales and it will be back-ordered weeks.
A year ago I held-off buying an iPhone 5 because I really wanted an iPad mini, but no Retina, so no deal. Now I'm really glad I waited. First, iPad mini. Then, new battery for my iP4S as I wait another year for iP6.
That's how I scheduled my iPad buy: held off on the 2 and went with the 3 immediately. For iPads, for me anyway, it's a lot about the visual and I can tell the difference.
Going to go LTE or WiFi only? That's the puzzle for me.
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Maybe I’m wrong, but isn’t the proper iPad still selling far better?
The 'proper' iPad is by my definition the one that is selling best. Therefore the answer is yes, by definition. According to Gartner, the Mini achieved 60% of combined sales in 1Q and subsequent data is showing the trend towards 7/8" tablets is increasing. The 'improper' tablets seem to be losing favour
Analysts are able to get approximations of this based on the ASP provided by Apple.
Maybe I’m wrong, but isn’t the proper iPad still selling far better?
No, it is not. By most accounts it is either equal or less overall units than iPad mini.
This is not the least bit surprising. The overwhelming majority of people would rather pay $329 than $499. This is the deciding factor.
The 'proper' iPad is by my definition the one that is selling best. Therefore the answer is yes, by definition. According to Gartner, the Mini achieved 60% of combined sales in 1Q and subsequent data is showing the trend towards 7/8" tablets is increasing. The 'improper' tablets seem to be losing favour
Analysts are able to get approximations of this based on the ASP provided by Apple.
Thats an interesting perspective, but it still falls short because it has nothing to do with a 7.9" tablet being more desirable in any way than 9.7"
The factor is Price, and nothing more.
Not according to various reports I've read. It's just the opposite with the Mini handily outselling it's larger brethren if those reports are true. Maybe a "smaller iPad" was the right size all along.
http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/ipad-mini-outselling-ipad-by-large-margin/
http://ipadinsight.com/ipad-mini/ipad-mini-predicted-to-outsell-ipad-this-year-sounds-right/
http://www.businessinsider.com/ipad-mini-sales-2012-12
Its CHEAPER.
Good grief. Do you people honestly believe that this would be the same if the iPad and iPad mini were the same price?
I can't wait to see the BS excuses when there isn't a retina Mini (because Apple has no intention to release one any time soon)
Or perhaps we'll just get a mass explosion of heads and be done with the analysts once and for all
You'll be eating crow on October 22
We don't yet have Fusion Drives in MBPs which is something I think people really want.
I wouldn't even be sure the iPod Classic will continue to sell anywhere else but their online clearance store. At some point the number of buyers will drop to a point that continuing to produce more of the same tried-and-true iPod won't make sense to Apple. I think that's probably this year, but it's just a guess.
The rumors of the iPod Classic's death have been greatly exaggerated.
Thats an interesting perspective, but it still falls short because it has nothing to do with a 7.9" tablet being more desirable in any way than 9.7"
The factor is Price, and nothing more.
I hadn't realised just how knowledgeable some of the readers here are. It must be quite difficult to obtain data on each and every purchase of an iPad. I'd love to know your methodology.
Makes one wonder why Apple doesn't produce a 1 inch tablet and sell it for $50.
What a difference a year makes... LOL
Nope, $100 is WAAAY to slim of a difference between iPad & iPad mini w/ retina display. Never happen.
There is a reason why the iPad mini is $329. Actually, several dozen very good reasons. That's not going to change.
I don't think so; there's a good chance that the iPad mini will replace the iPad 2 at the $399 price point and that the iPad 2 may very well be discontinued this year. It's easier to see the iPad 2 being retired rather than bumping its processor specs-too much fragmentation at this point.
If a retina mini gets the same specs as the 5th gen (which I think it should) then I have no problem with a price increase. But that would have to go with a price reduction on the current mini. Add A6 to the current mini and drop the price to $279-$299.
Yes.
Price is "a" factor. One of many. To say that it's nothing more is both arrogant and ignorant. I personally know several people who have a full size iPad but wish they had the mini and some are planning on "upgrading" to a mini. They've already spent the money on a full size iPad. If price was was the ONLY factor as you claim, why would they then go out and spend MORE money to get a mini?
Just sitting here reminiscing…where are all the naysayers who a little over a year ago insisted that Apple would never release a smaller iPad? The 9.7” size was the perfect size, Steve Jobs said so. You’d have to include a file to whittle down your finger to use anything smaller than the [regular sized] iPad. It would be too complicated for developers to have to support different screen sizes. Etc, etc.
What a difference a year makes... LOL
Jobs referred (alluded) to 7" tablets of that time. That is what was o nthe market and clearly the devices her had referred to. The iPad mini has a display that is 40% larger in area than typical 7" diagonal 16:9 aspect ratio tablet displays. LOL
How so you know what's possible and impossible?
Thats an interesting perspective, but it still falls short because it has nothing to do with a 7.9" tablet being more desirable in any way than 9.7"
The factor is Price, and nothing more.
I'm looking at the iPad and the rumoured retina mini and can afford either one. I'm getting the mini because of it's form factor. To say "the factor is Price, and nothing more" makes you sound a little full of yourself.
I hadn't realised just how knowledgeable some of the readers here are. It must be quite difficult to obtain data on each and every purchase of an iPad. I'd love to know your methodology.
Makes one wonder why Apple doesn't produce a 1 inch tablet and sell it for $50.
ROFL!!
Thats an interesting perspective, but it still falls short because it has nothing to do with a 7.9" tablet being more desirable in any way than 9.7"
The factor is Price, and nothing more.
My wife has a mini- I think I could somehow find a way, in my overwhelming poverty, to spring the extra $70 to get an iPad 2. Maybe sell an organ. $70 is so much!
arrogant and ignorant
Perfect description.
I'm in. My local Apple Store Genius Bar (by straw poll) is all in.
If they introduce this, they will have monster sales and it will be back-ordered weeks.
A year ago I held-off buying an iPhone 5 because I really wanted an iPad mini, but no Retina, so no deal. Now I'm really glad I waited. First, iPad mini. Then, new battery for my iP4S as I wait another year for iP6.
I can see the Mini outselling the iPad 5. It's all about mobility ! (And price!)
I also think Apple with go Retina on the Mini. Remember last year how quickly Apple replaced the 30 pin connector on the entire iPad line?
Apple likes uniformity in their product lines.
Or they'll add a retina mini: they also like to tier their products, stills selling the ipad 2 etc. for that reason. Give consumers, ne buyers, a choice.
iPad mini Retina :
I'm in. My local Apple Store Genius Bar (by straw poll) is all in.
If they introduce this, they will have monster sales and it will be back-ordered weeks.
A year ago I held-off buying an iPhone 5 because I really wanted an iPad mini, but no Retina, so no deal. Now I'm really glad I waited. First, iPad mini. Then, new battery for my iP4S as I wait another year for iP6.
That's how I scheduled my iPad buy: held off on the 2 and went with the 3 immediately. For iPads, for me anyway, it's a lot about the visual and I can tell the difference.
Going to go LTE or WiFi only? That's the puzzle for me.