Apple's iTunes Radio is 'credible threat,' says Pandora CFO

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  • Reply 21 of 45
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,871member
    bagman wrote: »
    We have Pandora here in the office, and I have it on my iPhone. I'm getting tired of listening to the same assortment of songs on the couple of stations I listen to. Has anyone listened long enough on iTunes Radio to discern whether the assortment is large enough for a particular station to not get bored? I would have to think Apple has way more tunes under license than Pandora, by virtue of its catalog, but would like to know for sure.

    Given that you make new stations in a few seconds I doubt there is much of a problem. If it starts to happen just make a new similar one by artist or song.
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  • Reply 22 of 45
    relicrelic Posts: 4,735member

    iTunes is a little too late to the game in my opinion, my familiy and I all use and are very happy with Spotify, it runs on all of my OS platforms that I currently have; OSX, iOS, Windows, Android, and Linux. I spent a very long time making my playlists and subscriptions, plus the best thing is my kids have free premium access and I got 2 years through our mobile provider so iTunes would have to offer something pretty substantial for me to change. Which won't be the case as Apple historically doesn't give out any such free offerings. I also got 50GB of BOX storage for two years with my phone and it uploads and downloads at least 3 - 4 times faster than my iCloud account does on my iPad. I think that has something to do with Switzerland though.

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  • Reply 23 of 45
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    andysol wrote: »
    It's refreshing to hear a CEO of a competing company actually say Apple is going to be a threat instead of the normal buffoons who say they won't succeed.  

    What difference does it make?
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  • Reply 24 of 45
    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post

    What difference does it make?

     

    What difference does the truth make? 

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  • Reply 25 of 45
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    What difference does the truth make?

    Just goes to show that it's easier to question than be questioned. One loses their honor and integrity once they become a politician, but it's irrelevant to the fact of what the Pandora CEO said. Will it change the outcome?
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  • Reply 26 of 45
    Pandora can go suck it.

    Always hear about Pandora constantly and I'm in the UK, they haven't bothered to expand internationally for years, they have done nothing at all and now Apple is going to destroy them and then expand internationally where Pandora were too lazy to do so. I hope they die.
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  • Reply 27 of 45
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    Originally Posted by skleiniv View Post



    I've used pandora for a long time. Tried apple, but honestly it isn't as good. So many songs come up I don't like that each time it hit don't play on this station again in out of clicks and have to listen to crappy songs. Plus, apple doesn't find as many songs as I like which pandora does a great job on. Sorry apple, I resigned up w pandora again.

    I have only a few of Apple's stations on my iTunes Radio and I have been tuning those stations consistently. At this point I rarely need to select "Never Play This Again". 

     

    Do you create your own stations from artists or albums you love? You can do that and also add related artists, tracks, and albums to the staion to "tune" it better to your liking. You also can tune any station by selecting either "Hits", "Variety" or "Discovery".

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  • Reply 28 of 45
    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post

    Will it change the outcome?

     

    “Will telling the truth about something change its outcome”; THIS is your question. I’m seriously questioning whether you actually mean this, and that’s depressing.

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  • Reply 29 of 45
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    “Will telling the truth about something change its outcome”; THIS is your question. I’m seriously questioning whether you actually mean this, and that’s depressing.

    In this case it won't.
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  • Reply 30 of 45
    Translation: "We're scared shitless."
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  • Reply 31 of 45
    The only problem I'm having - and having consistently - is that my Diana Krall Radio always (I mean ALWAYS) plays Christmas music.

    It starts out fine, and then takes a left turn into Christmas music and never turns back. I can't skip all of them because I run out of skips. To be fair they are all jazz/standard Christmas songs...but in September/October that's not what I'm looking for. And this has never happened on either Pandora or Spotify. ;-)

    So that's my only gripe, but it's an issue that I *assume* will be mitigated with more thorough tagging in the future.
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  • Reply 32 of 45
    They (Pandora!) started business in 2000.

    13 years later, these morons couldn't bring their service to any country other than U.S. (obviously!), Australia and New Zealand!

    13 damn years?!!!

    From their site: http://www.pandora.com/restricted

    "[I]We will continue to work diligently to realize the vision of a truly global Pandora, but for the time being we are required to restrict its use. We are very sad to have to do this, but there is no other alternative.[/I]"

    My friend, the alternative is here already!

    Apple just announced it and truly have been working diligently to bring it to many many countries and for real!

    And, now look at their CFO's pic! He's been peeing in his pants since he heard iRadio is coming! I'd suggest Pandora shut it down and refund their users and NOW!
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  • Reply 33 of 45
    512ke512ke Posts: 782member

    There is no iTunes for Android, right?  Android is on more phones, so Pandora has a protected market to a certain extent.

     

    Amazon and Netflix can play content on Android and iOS.

     

    Why can't iTunes/Apple play music content on Android?

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  • Reply 34 of 45
    jd_in_sbjd_in_sb Posts: 1,600member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ken_sanders_aia View Post



    Pandora is exactly like Netscape - a first mover app whose capability was absorbed into the platforms... And it will face the same future: shrinking subscribers and revenue and a falling stock price, until it is bought by a third tier player for cheap. Its current $5 billion market cap is insane - P is a stock that is begging to be shorted...



    AOL bought Netscape for $4.2 billion

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  • Reply 35 of 45
    jblongzjblongz Posts: 172member

    I already deleted Pandora...not looking back.

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  • Reply 36 of 45
    koopkoop Posts: 337member
    I wanted to like iTunes Radio at launch, but it had some annoying bugs that turned me off. When it did function I didn't feel like it understood my tastes like Pandora does. Some of the song choices on my channels weren't stellar. Top it off with a less ubiquitous ways to access the service compared to Pandora and I'll stick to where I'm at.
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  • Reply 37 of 45

    iTunes radio is the best there is, great selection- endless. i can dump XM for the automobiles ,and not have to use pandoras crappy sounding mp3s in my vehicle anymore also.Their mp3s must be 128 or worse...

    iTunes songs have the best sound quality (short of my hi-res tracks) . CD sound good but are too cumbersome. They are obsolete IMHO

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  • Reply 38 of 45
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,871member
    What difference does the truth make?


    Keep fracking politics off AI! :no:
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  • Reply 39 of 45
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,871member
    The only problem I'm having - and having consistently - is that my Diana Krall Radio always (I mean ALWAYS) plays Christmas music.

    It starts out fine, and then takes a left turn into Christmas music and never turns back. I can't skip all of them because I run out of skips. To be fair they are all jazz/standard Christmas songs...but in September/October that's not what I'm looking for. And this has never happened on either Pandora or Spotify. ;-)

    So that's my only gripe, but it's an issue that I *assume* will be mitigated with more thorough tagging in the future.

    Have you tried training rather than skipping?
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  • Reply 40 of 45
    I've been fine-tuning my Pandora stations for years and don't feel like going through that again. It works great and i think i'll stay with Pandora for now...
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