Ugh. Apples products in general have managed to avoid looking dated. They have classic lines and features. Even the original Mac OS holds up pretty well by today's standards.
But this iOS 7 is Jony taking his fashionable ideas a bit too far. All these garish dayglow colors are going to look so dated well before next year. IOS 7 is going to seem like clothing from the 1970s.
Videos is pretty bad,
And Newstand is both ugly and needs to be fixed- when I exit a paper or magazine I don't want to be in Newstand I want to be on my home screen.
I'm constantly clicking twice- it's driving me Apples!
How do you expect to exit a book to home screen in iBooks or Kindle - one click or two?
How do you expect to exit a book to home screen in iBooks or Kindle - one click or two?
A book is not an App. Your question is moot.
NY Times is an App- as are all the other mags and newspapers.
At least the NY Post is a stand alone app- not shackled to Newstand.
Also when I exit a comic book from Marvel I go directly to the home screen , not Marvel.
Garage band and iPhoto are not part of iWorks. That means 5 apps being updated, including these two.
Righto; I think they said that at the last keynote. Hopefully, as with iWork, iLife receives an update across the entire Apple product line.
Originally Posted by wierdninja
…I can tell you that iOS 7 has no logic about how most apps work. I found "features" by accident.
That’s funny, given that it’s identical to iOS 6 save for a few things that are explicitly stated BY THE OS ITSELF WHEN YOU USE IT or available immediately online at the Apple website front page for iOS.
My iPad will never see iOS 7, EVER. May be my last iPhone too.
Good for you; go away.
Originally Posted by freediverx
Skeumorphics looked especially cheesy in Notepad and Calendar with that awful fake leather header.
Well, that’s completely wrong. Notes in particular had a spectacular design, both in OS X and iOS. Now it’s hideous and WORKS WORSE.
Amazing. While Microsoft is paying attention to it's users by getting rid of Ballmer an giving people an option not to use the Metro (aka: Ugly) interface, Apple has not the sense to fire Jonathan Ives and will force us to use iOS7 when the time to change is right now before this lunacy encourages people to migrate to Android devices. C'mon Apple. Why not admit the mistake and get it over with sooner than later. Later ust means that the huge numbers of people that moved to the iPhone and Apple products in general will defect to something else.
And for all the airlines that are using the iPad...can you imagine having to look at this extraordinarily bright display in a dark cockpit?
Because it wasn’t a mistake and no one is going to Android over it.
The faux glossy and lumpiness that was in the UI of iOS 6 had to be done away with. Period. Did they go overboard? Absofreakinglutely. Did good things come out of it anyway? Yes.
All these people… were they even alive when 10.0 was released? Pinstripes, man, PINSTRIPES! If I wanted a zoot suit, I’d buy one, wear it, and go get the snot beaten out of me, not fill an OS with them!
Heck, there were pinstripes in iPhone OS, and this was long after they’d been removed from OS X! They were eventually stripped away, just like the bad aspects of iOS 7 will be.
Precisely my point. Microsoft has not paid attention to users, until now. And now could very well be too late. It takes a long time to perceive that people are defecting to another company or product.
Time for Apple to allow us to comment directly on OS and iOS rather than on specific hardware (iPhone, iPad, etc).
Jonathan Ive threw out the baby with the bathwater. There are a few improvements in iOS7, but they are overshadowed by the difficulty of using the new interface. Ugly is one thing. Difficult is another.
Mr Ive should be sent to design prison cells. Or maybe not...aren't prison cells supposed to be humane?
Messages is the worst- like some bad '60s homage. The neon green baloons are atrocious. I can understand getting rid of the skeumorphic references- but replacing them with neon over white drek? Jobs would never have approved- always wanted things pleasant to view. This seems like a case where Tim Cook couldn't veto Ive once he got the go ahead. I wish there was a way to change them like in OSX.
I am not seeing these on my 5s. I don't have garage band, but I do have iPhoto since it was free with the new phone. When I go to iCloud settings and manage storage I still see the old icon.
I generally dislike IOS 7 look, new features I like but the new looks are flat/dull. Instead of old fashioned in IOS 1-6.
I think this summed it up nicely. The old interface is old-fashioned, but the new interface fails to WOW users. It's one thing to be minimalism. It's another thing to be unimpressive.
I think this summed it up nicely. The old interface is old-fashioned, but the new interface fails to WOW users. It's one thing to be minimalism. It's another thing to be unimpressive.
Not so sure I agree that the old look was old fashioned but if you like to refresh appearance now and then, that's your preference. Minimalism is uninteresting and no wonder if fails to WOW users. There are colors and textures in our everyday environment for a good reason...they make life better, more fulfilling, and more interesting.
There are also practical reasons for using color, contrast, and texture...it makes finding, selecting and operating things easier, faster and more reliable. Imagine driving a car that has a white interior, the instrument panel is very light gray, the tach and speed indicators have white backgrounds and both give you information in small numerals. The same color combination of whites and grays is used for the radio, heating an cooling controls, CD player, and for everything else. Now imagine driving at night in this car.
I suppose we should be thankful that Jonathan Ive is not permitted to design automobile interiors. In case you do not remember, GM tried a simple version of this and for a number of years used digital speed indicators. It took awhile but they finally abandoned that because is simply does not work. The same is true in airplanes. Virtually all information is presented in an analog fashion where contrast and color differentiation are used to make it easier for the pilot to access and process information. Another example is your watch. Digital displays of time were popular for a few years and have now almost disappeared...for the same reasons...you cannot read them at a glance.
The new look of iOS7 may be visually appealing to some and not to others. But the crux of the matter is does it make it easier or more difficult for most people to actually use the phone?
Ugh. Apples products in general have managed to avoid looking dated. They have classic lines and features. Even the original Mac OS holds up pretty well by today's standards.
But this iOS 7 is Jony taking his fashionable ideas a bit too far. All these garish dayglow colors are going to look so dated well before next year. IOS 7 is going to seem like clothing from the 1970s.
It already does. It's too much of one thing. That's what is wrong with fads.
iOS 7 visual design was a reaction to the desire for change, not a thoughtful process of design.
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Then stop complaining.
But this iOS 7 is Jony taking his fashionable ideas a bit too far. All these garish dayglow colors are going to look so dated well before next year. IOS 7 is going to seem like clothing from the 1970s.
How do you expect to exit a book to home screen in iBooks or Kindle - one click or two?
A book is not an App. Your question is moot.
NY Times is an App- as are all the other mags and newspapers.
At least the NY Post is a stand alone app- not shackled to Newstand.
Also when I exit a comic book from Marvel I go directly to the home screen , not Marvel.
Righto; I think they said that at the last keynote. Hopefully, as with iWork, iLife receives an update across the entire Apple product line.
That’s funny, given that it’s identical to iOS 6 save for a few things that are explicitly stated BY THE OS ITSELF WHEN YOU USE IT or available immediately online at the Apple website front page for iOS.
Good for you; go away.
Well, that’s completely wrong. Notes in particular had a spectacular design, both in OS X and iOS. Now it’s hideous and WORKS WORSE.
Amazing. While Microsoft is paying attention to it's users by getting rid of Ballmer an giving people an option not to use the Metro (aka: Ugly) interface, Apple has not the sense to fire Jonathan Ives and will force us to use iOS7 when the time to change is right now before this lunacy encourages people to migrate to Android devices. C'mon Apple. Why not admit the mistake and get it over with sooner than later. Later ust means that the huge numbers of people that moved to the iPhone and Apple products in general will defect to something else.
And for all the airlines that are using the iPad...can you imagine having to look at this extraordinarily bright display in a dark cockpit?
Because it wasn’t a mistake and no one is going to Android over it.
The faux glossy and lumpiness that was in the UI of iOS 6 had to be done away with. Period. Did they go overboard? Absofreakinglutely. Did good things come out of it anyway? Yes.
All these people… were they even alive when 10.0 was released? Pinstripes, man, PINSTRIPES! If I wanted a zoot suit, I’d buy one, wear it, and go get the snot beaten out of me, not fill an OS with them!
Heck, there were pinstripes in iPhone OS, and this was long after they’d been removed from OS X! They were eventually stripped away, just like the bad aspects of iOS 7 will be.
Amazing. While Microsoft is paying attention to it's users...
Your credibility was shot in less than two sentences.
If Microsoft actually paid attention to its users, it would have ditched that gosh-awful Office ribbon, SIX YEARS AGO.
(Sorry for the threadjack...)
The underlying program is still there. True. But it is much, much less intuitive and much more difficult to use effectively with the new look.
Precisely my point. Microsoft has not paid attention to users, until now. And now could very well be too late. It takes a long time to perceive that people are defecting to another company or product.
Time for Apple to allow us to comment directly on OS and iOS rather than on specific hardware (iPhone, iPad, etc).
Jonathan Ive threw out the baby with the bathwater. There are a few improvements in iOS7, but they are overshadowed by the difficulty of using the new interface. Ugly is one thing. Difficult is another.
Mr Ive should be sent to design prison cells. Or maybe not...aren't prison cells supposed to be humane?
Apple really needs to hire a GOOD designer.
These are bad on their own, but when compared to the beautiful old icons, they're about as attractive as a pile of dog vomit.
I can understand getting rid of the skeumorphic references- but replacing them with neon over white drek? Jobs would never have approved- always wanted things pleasant to view. This seems like a case where Tim Cook couldn't veto Ive once he got the go ahead. I wish there was a way to change them like in OSX.
I think this summed it up nicely. The old interface is old-fashioned, but the new interface fails to WOW users. It's one thing to be minimalism. It's another thing to be unimpressive.
I annoys users with the neon palette.
Not so sure I agree that the old look was old fashioned but if you like to refresh appearance now and then, that's your preference. Minimalism is uninteresting and no wonder if fails to WOW users. There are colors and textures in our everyday environment for a good reason...they make life better, more fulfilling, and more interesting.
There are also practical reasons for using color, contrast, and texture...it makes finding, selecting and operating things easier, faster and more reliable. Imagine driving a car that has a white interior, the instrument panel is very light gray, the tach and speed indicators have white backgrounds and both give you information in small numerals. The same color combination of whites and grays is used for the radio, heating an cooling controls, CD player, and for everything else. Now imagine driving at night in this car.
I suppose we should be thankful that Jonathan Ive is not permitted to design automobile interiors. In case you do not remember, GM tried a simple version of this and for a number of years used digital speed indicators. It took awhile but they finally abandoned that because is simply does not work. The same is true in airplanes. Virtually all information is presented in an analog fashion where contrast and color differentiation are used to make it easier for the pilot to access and process information. Another example is your watch. Digital displays of time were popular for a few years and have now almost disappeared...for the same reasons...you cannot read them at a glance.
The new look of iOS7 may be visually appealing to some and not to others. But the crux of the matter is does it make it easier or more difficult for most people to actually use the phone?
It already does. It's too much of one thing. That's what is wrong with fads.
iOS 7 visual design was a reaction to the desire for change, not a thoughtful process of design.