Not for any actual work, it doesn’t. If you’re really a professional, you’d buy the real thing instead of pretending a hack job can get anything done.
And good luck with OS X on a laptop.
LOL, you have no idea what you are talking about. I've built a pretty sweet desktop, for example, for a fraction of cost what Apple charges for its MacPros, have OS X 10.8.6 instelled on it, and have been making software for OS X with it for quite a while. XCode works on it, App Store works, app submissions work, everything just works. And it's pretty fast, too. For a fraction of the cost of a real MacPro.
LOL, you have no idea what you are talking about. I've built a pretty sweet desktop, for example, for a fraction of cost what Apple charges for its MacPros, have OS X 10.8.6 instelled on it, and have been making software for OS X with it for quite a while. XCode works on it, App Store works, app submissions work, everything just works. And it's pretty fast, too. For a fraction of the cost of a real MacPro.
Sure, it can be done, he didn't say otherwise, but you still don't have a Mac or rather the qualities of a Mac that aren't possible with the DIY crowd and rarely seen with the big name vendors.
The only thing that holds me back from getting a base model 15" for $1999 is the RAM. I've been using 16 GB of RAM in my MBP for a while, and there is world of difference during the work day between 16 and 8. Anyone that tells you there isn't much difference doesn't use many apps or do any real work at all. Period. The difference is astonishing to say the least.
And it kills to me to think I'd have to spend an extra $200 to get 8 more GB of RAM. Grotesque.
And in the end, I'd still have a 256 GB SSD as I do now. I'd really love to go up to 512 GB for my next MBP....but I don't think I can justify the cost.
And a fraction of the processing power, a fraction of the quality, and a fraction of the experience. Ignorance is bliss. Enjoy your trash.
Guess how low quality my quad-core Intel i7-4770k @ 3.5GHz is compared with upcoming MacPro's 3.7GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon E5 processor? It's Intel versus Intel. Apple uses mostly ordinary off-the-shelf parts for their computers. "Fraction of Experience"? Sheesh.
Sure, it can be done, he didn't say otherwise, but you still don't have a Mac or rather the qualities of a Mac that aren't possible with the DIY crowd and rarely seen with the big name vendors.
I keep my computers under the desk. Anybody visiting my office will think I have a real Mac when they see my 27" 2560x1600 screen, even though it's not made by Apple, but it shows the OS X desktop... Don't really care about the plastic the chips are wrapped into.
Guess how low quality my quad-core Intel i7-4770k @ 3.5GHz is compared with upcoming MacPro's 3.7GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon E5 processor?
Considerably.
And because you won’t understand the answer, it’s to be read “considerably low quality”. Look at the parts, for heaven’s sake. They’re not comparable. If you had any idea what you were talking about, you’d know that already.
And because you won’t understand the answer, it’s to be read “considerably low quality”. Look at the parts, for heaven’s sake. They’re not comparable. If you had any idea what you were talking about, you’d know that already.
Oh my Intel i7-4770k is of so much lower quality than the upcoming Intel Xeon also-a-quad-core in the upcoming MacPro that it makes me weep especially when I look at the $1.500 I saved by building this computer myself LOL. Did I mention that I have over twice the RAM and it's faster, and plenty more GPU power?
The only thing that holds me back from getting a base model 15" for $1999 is the RAM. I've been using 16 GB of RAM in my MBP for a while, and there is world of difference during the work day between 16 and 8. Anyone that tells you there isn't much difference doesn't use many apps or do any real work at all. Period. The difference is astonishing to say the least.
And it kills to me to think I'd have to spend an extra $200 to get 8 more GB of RAM. Grotesque.
And in the end, I'd still have a 256 GB SSD as I do now. I'd really love to go up to 512 GB for my next MBP....but I don't think I can justify the cost.
May have to keep the 2011 model a little longer.
Why don't you buy and complete your own RAM upgrade if $70 is an issue for you?
edit: I had read that the new MBPs had user-replacable RAM but after looking at iFixit's teardown it's clear they do not. But I do wonder out of machine that will cost you over $2k why you wouldn't want to increase your productivity because you don't want an OEM to make a profit on an up-sale. Furthermore, compared to their RAM price disparity in the past the current state of RAM costs it's pretty damn good for Apple.
I keep my computers under the desk. Anybody visiting my office will think I have a real Mac when they see my 27" 2560x1600 screen, even though it's not made by Apple, but it shows the OS X desktop... Don't really care about the plastic the chips are wrapped into.
The fact that you think Apple is about is a veneer of plastic tells a lot about you and begs the question as to why you are here.
Your GPUs are more powerful than EITHER dual D300 or D500?
I’m sure. Again, ignorance is bliss.
You've ignored the news for a long time if you cannot find e.g. DDR3-2.400GHz like I did. D300/D500? Pretty mid-range ATIs you are talking about there... Feel free to continue ignoring the reality, in that Apple distortion field.
Got dual NVidia 780s here, and 500GB SSD. Thnderbolt 2? Got any devices for those? Didn't think so.
Pathetic! You say you're Hacintosh is just as fast or faster but you ignore a direct question about PCIe and TB2. You probably have your SSD connected via SATA II like a chump. As for TB2(DP1.2) capable devices there are plenty.
Pathetic! You say you're Hacintosh is just as fast or faster but you ignore a direct question about PCIe and TB2. You probably have your SSD connected via SATA II like a chump. As for TB2(DP1.2) capable devices there are plenty.
Hmm, which one helps me render my 3D animations faster, My SATA-III 600MB/s SSDs and pretty high-end dual 780s, or the upcoming MacPro's twice as fast PCIe SSD + its only 50% as fast (or even slower) dual D500? And I already have my 27" 2560x1600 display connected to my computer via DVI, don't really have usage for TB2. Got lots of free connectors available anyway. Perhaps your Superb User Experience requires lots of TB2 connectors? You are a connector guy? Gotta have lots of TB1 and TB2 ports, just because they are... new? Cool? What you have there connected, man? Just cables going from one TB2 port to another?
LOL, you have no idea what you are talking about. I've built a pretty sweet desktop, for example, for a fraction of cost what Apple charges for its MacPros, have OS X 10.8.6 instelled on it, and have been making software for OS X with it for quite a while. XCode works on it, App Store works, app submissions work, everything just works. And it's pretty fast, too. For a fraction of the cost of a real MacPro.
Did you ever think to cost the man hours you put into making this thing? I guarantee that if you had to pay yourself to make this thing you would never have done it — it would cost way too much.
But if you have lots of time on your hands that is not worth much then knock yourself out. Slave labour is great — when you're your own slave.
Did you ever think to cost the man hours you put into making this thing? I guarantee that if you had to pay yourself to make this thing you would never have done it — it would cost way too much.
But if you have lots of time on your hands that is not worth much then knock yourself out. Slave labour is great — when you're your own slave.
Of course not. People like him don't consider time to be very important since they plenry of it. They also don't see how technically having a driver, which they didn't create or pay for, is not the same as an efficient driver for a comparable part by a reputable vendor.
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Not for any actual work, it doesn’t. If you’re really a professional, you’d buy the real thing instead of pretending a hack job can get anything done.
And good luck with OS X on a laptop.
LOL, you have no idea what you are talking about. I've built a pretty sweet desktop, for example, for a fraction of cost what Apple charges for its MacPros, have OS X 10.8.6 instelled on it, and have been making software for OS X with it for quite a while. XCode works on it, App Store works, app submissions work, everything just works. And it's pretty fast, too. For a fraction of the cost of a real MacPro.
HAHA you must not be much of a professional.
Sure, it can be done, he didn't say otherwise, but you still don't have a Mac or rather the qualities of a Mac that aren't possible with the DIY crowd and rarely seen with the big name vendors.
I’ve built a pretty sweet desktop…
Totally righteous, dude.
And a fraction of the processing power, a fraction of the quality, and a fraction of the experience. Ignorance is bliss. Enjoy your trash.
The only thing that holds me back from getting a base model 15" for $1999 is the RAM. I've been using 16 GB of RAM in my MBP for a while, and there is world of difference during the work day between 16 and 8. Anyone that tells you there isn't much difference doesn't use many apps or do any real work at all. Period. The difference is astonishing to say the least.
And it kills to me to think I'd have to spend an extra $200 to get 8 more GB of RAM. Grotesque.
And in the end, I'd still have a 256 GB SSD as I do now. I'd really love to go up to 512 GB for my next MBP....but I don't think I can justify the cost.
May have to keep the 2011 model a little longer.
Totally righteous, dude.
And a fraction of the processing power, a fraction of the quality, and a fraction of the experience. Ignorance is bliss. Enjoy your trash.
Guess how low quality my quad-core Intel i7-4770k @ 3.5GHz is compared with upcoming MacPro's 3.7GHz Quad-Core Intel Xeon E5 processor? It's Intel versus Intel. Apple uses mostly ordinary off-the-shelf parts for their computers. "Fraction of Experience"? Sheesh.
Sure, it can be done, he didn't say otherwise, but you still don't have a Mac or rather the qualities of a Mac that aren't possible with the DIY crowd and rarely seen with the big name vendors.
I keep my computers under the desk. Anybody visiting my office will think I have a real Mac when they see my 27" 2560x1600 screen, even though it's not made by Apple, but it shows the OS X desktop... Don't really care about the plastic the chips are wrapped into.
Considerably.
And because you won’t understand the answer, it’s to be read “considerably low quality”. Look at the parts, for heaven’s sake. They’re not comparable. If you had any idea what you were talking about, you’d know that already.
Oh my Intel i7-4770k is of so much lower quality than the upcoming Intel Xeon also-a-quad-core in the upcoming MacPro that it makes me weep especially when I look at the $1.500 I saved by building this computer myself LOL. Did I mention that I have over twice the RAM and it's faster, and plenty more GPU power?
Why don't you buy and complete your own RAM upgrade if $70 is an issue for you?
edit: I had read that the new MBPs had user-replacable RAM but after looking at iFixit's teardown it's clear they do not. But I do wonder out of machine that will cost you over $2k why you wouldn't want to increase your productivity because you don't want an OEM to make a profit on an up-sale. Furthermore, compared to their RAM price disparity in the past the current state of RAM costs it's pretty damn good for Apple.
The fact that you think Apple is about is a veneer of plastic tells a lot about you and begs the question as to why you are here.
Prove it or shut your hole, troll.
"I know you am but what am I?"
…especially when I look at the $1.500 I saved…
No one gives a frick. Not real professionals, not hobbyists, not anyone who uses their machine for actual work.
Your RAM is clocked higher than 1.866GHz?
Your GPUs are more powerful than EITHER dual D300 or D500?
I’m sure. Again, ignorance is bliss.
I am curious how he was able to get PCIe SSD and Thunderbolt 2 card for his Hackintosh.
I am curious how he was able to get PCIe SSD and Thunderbolt 2 card for his Hackintosh.
Got dual NVidia 780s here, and 500GB SSD. Thnderbolt 2? Got any devices for those? Didn't think so.
Your RAM is clocked higher than 1.866GHz?
Your GPUs are more powerful than EITHER dual D300 or D500?
I’m sure. Again, ignorance is bliss.
You've ignored the news for a long time if you cannot find e.g. DDR3-2.400GHz like I did. D300/D500? Pretty mid-range ATIs you are talking about there... Feel free to continue ignoring the reality, in that Apple distortion field.
Pathetic! You say you're Hacintosh is just as fast or faster but you ignore a direct question about PCIe and TB2. You probably have your SSD connected via SATA II like a chump. As for TB2(DP1.2) capable devices there are plenty.
Pathetic! You say you're Hacintosh is just as fast or faster but you ignore a direct question about PCIe and TB2. You probably have your SSD connected via SATA II like a chump. As for TB2(DP1.2) capable devices there are plenty.
Hmm, which one helps me render my 3D animations faster, My SATA-III 600MB/s SSDs and pretty high-end dual 780s, or the upcoming MacPro's twice as fast PCIe SSD + its only 50% as fast (or even slower) dual D500? And I already have my 27" 2560x1600 display connected to my computer via DVI, don't really have usage for TB2. Got lots of free connectors available anyway. Perhaps your Superb User Experience requires lots of TB2 connectors? You are a connector guy? Gotta have lots of TB1 and TB2 ports, just because they are... new? Cool? What you have there connected, man? Just cables going from one TB2 port to another?
Thnderbolt 2? Got any devices for those? Didn't think so.
Nice bandwagon fallacy. Try again, kiddo.
LOL, you have no idea what you are talking about. I've built a pretty sweet desktop, for example, for a fraction of cost what Apple charges for its MacPros, have OS X 10.8.6 instelled on it, and have been making software for OS X with it for quite a while. XCode works on it, App Store works, app submissions work, everything just works. And it's pretty fast, too. For a fraction of the cost of a real MacPro.
Did you ever think to cost the man hours you put into making this thing? I guarantee that if you had to pay yourself to make this thing you would never have done it — it would cost way too much.
But if you have lots of time on your hands that is not worth much then knock yourself out. Slave labour is great — when you're your own slave.
Of course not. People like him don't consider time to be very important since they plenry of it. They also don't see how technically having a driver, which they didn't create or pay for, is not the same as an efficient driver for a comparable part by a reputable vendor.