Apple scores back to back wins vs. Google's Motorola in German, ITC patent cases

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  • Reply 61 of 71
    Two questions for the biggest liar in this thread, pedromartins:

    - Why did Google steal Microsoft IP and put it in Android and then give it away for free when they had no legal right to use it?
    - Why did Google steal IP belonging to MPEG-LA (the companies they represent) and put it in VP8 and then give it away for free?

    You say Google doesn't steal? I say you're a liar. And a hypocrite since you're running around calling everyone else liars.
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  • Reply 62 of 71
    jungmark wrote: »
    Android before iPhone, android after iPhone.
    Apple before Xerox, Apple after xerox. Same thing. Inspiration, not copy.
    Whoa. Relax, man. Missing your meds?
    No, just disappointed by ignorant users (most of them on the USA, most of AI posters) that have no idead about what goes on outside Apple ecosystem and outside of the US.

    One has to be really fucking dumb to still have the nerve to call vanilla Android a copy of iOS. Steve was really fucking dumb once in a while, but he compensated that by having the talent to find the talent (Cook, Ive, phil, craig, etc).

    Most posters here aren't like that. I joined this forum before I bought my first Mac, and came here because I love my Macbook Air and I thought that it was a better way to help, get help and discuss tech, because I thought that Mac users always inform themselves before commiting to the ecosystem (like me).

    But guess what, ALMOST nothing more than a bunch of ignorant users (especially about non-things Apple, so even their purchases weren't that informed, it was just because of the logo) that think that because they can't even write iWork instead of iWorkS (to show their veteran "rank") they have some sort of legitimacy to vomit crap post after post (30 000x).

    -Shouldn't the courts decide who is guilty?
    A sentence later:
    -Google copied!
    or
    -No one likes android;
    - ANdroid was found to be infringing apple patents;
    -No one likes android devices;
    -etc.

    One has to be really fucking dumb and a liar to post this stuff. Guess what, I'm done.

    Sure, but you can make your points without having to get so bent out of shape? There's really no need for all this frothing at the mouth. (I'll ignore the rant about Americans and AI users).
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  • Reply 63 of 71
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,928member
    Apple before Xerox, Apple after xerox. Same thing. Inspiration, not copy.

    ...
    One has to be really fucking dumb and a liar to post this stuff. Guess what, I'm done.

    Ding dong, the witch is gone.

    Btw, the difference is Apple gave Xerox shares in exchange for access to PARC.
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  • Reply 64 of 71
    gwmacgwmac Posts: 1,830member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

     

    You won’t be referencing this again. Final warning.

     

     

    Again, final warning.


    Strong words from a guy that just had his ban lifted. It was so peaceful around here when both of you weren't around to clog up the forums.  Something tells me we will get a break again from both of you very soon considering no lesson was learned. 

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  • Reply 65 of 71
    sockrolidsockrolid Posts: 2,789member

    Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

    ... Google was asking for 12 times the usual royalty rate.

     

    Typical.  No adult supervision.

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  • Reply 66 of 71
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pedromartins View Post

     

    130 € s3 mini Vs 350 € 4s on the same circunstances. Is touchwiz terrible? I think so, but not cyanogenmod+crossbreader. Android is a fantastic plataform that will keep 80 % Market share for years and years. Everybody wins. Me, you, Apple, Google. OEMs and RIM or Microsoft, on the other hand.... and that's great.


     

    You do know that if Samsung detects an unauthorised binary from unlocking the boot loader , they void your warranty, well in Australia anyway.

     

    The iPhone 4S is better than the S3 Mini in many ways

     

    Do you think Samsung count sales toward the pending 100,000,000 Galaxy S phones sold?

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  • Reply 67 of 71
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pedromartins View Post

     

    Why isn't Apple doing the same on the search engine business? WTF is wrong with them? They have more talent than Google (the only company that has more talent than google), but way less corage...


     

    They are, unified search is one of the Apple patents stolen by Android, as was found in various courts of law.

     

    Google = web search.

     

    Apple = everything in your hand search.

     

    The only thing Google is really good at is selling ads to suckers who believe their nonsense and are drawn to their honeypots.

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  • Reply 68 of 71
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

    Prove Apple has created a search engine. Prove they want to do so. Prove they have failed at it.


     

    Why that would take the ingenuity of SHERLOCK Holmes.

     

    ;)

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  • Reply 69 of 71
    gwmacgwmac Posts: 1,830member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post

     

     

    Why that would take the ingenuity of SHERLOCK Holmes.

     

    ;)


    Before Sherlock there was also eWorld by Apple which had a very rudimentary search I believe. It was killed off by the popularity of AOL. My how times have changed. 

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  • Reply 70 of 71
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,905member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by pedromartins View Post

     

    That's an ignorant statement.

     

    Google built an amazing alternative based on the iPhone. Google did not copy Apple just like Apple did not copy adobe with aperture or google docs with the new web iWork.

     

    And even if Google copied Apple icon to icon, feature to feature, what is your problem? Apple isn't a person. Google isn't a person. Both have billions of dollars and one brings the best in the other.

     

    In fact I believe (and evidence, logic and courts back me up) that:

    a) Android isn't a copy.

    b) Android is fantastic, even if iOS is just better;

    c) Google did the right thing for a variaty of reasons. Could you imagine if Google was forced out of iOS without Android as an alternative?

     

    My only true problem:

     

    Why isn't Apple doing the same on the search engine business? WTF is wrong with them? They have more talent than Google (the only company that has more talent than google), but way less corage...


     

     

    Google the company are a pack of thieves, 12.5 billion spent on Motorola for nothing couldn't have happen to a more deserving company.

    neoncat
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  • Reply 71 of 71
    tbell wrote: »
    If I spend a hundred million dollars developing a product and figuring out how it will best work, I want to 1) recoup my investment, 2) make a nice profit, and 3) create a market for my product. Once my product is released, it costs a lot less for a competitor to manufacturer my product.  It does not have to do nearly the same amount of research thereby saving millions of dollars. This in turn allows it to bring a product to market for less than my own. That is essentially what Google has done. It took without permission Java and used IOS as a model to build its own product. More importantly, Google has a history of just taking innovative ideas and pushing out small competitors. That type of behaviour kills innovations. Eventually people like you who like cool products, will not have them because who wants to spend big dollars to develop a product to just allow your competitors to being it to market cheaper by copying you? Moreover, Apple's approach is more inclusive. With its iPhone it did not elect to build the entirety of its services, it included Yahoo, Google, Microsoft, Nuance, Tom Tom, Yelp,  Facebook, and the list goes on. Google instead, just takes the concepts those other companies have developed and tries to copy the products. 


    Moreover, iOS is more than just the way it looks. It is also the way it behaves. Patents cover both. 

    Truly fantastic post! Excellent points, all around.
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