I would have gone with sui generis in this particular case. Surely it's less well know than 'unique' but being Latin helps evoke an understanding of being rare, unique, and extraordinary if used in the right context.
I always thought sui generis meant more than just unique, it meant something that is completely uncategorisable. For example if you are making a taxonomy of things and you have one or two examples that don't fit anywhere, but otherwise your scheme is perfect. The auction items are unique but still recognisable as "a camera" or "a spacesuit."
I know Macrumors is a UK site, but I didn't realize that about AI.
I would bet that 99.9% of Americans have no idea what bespoke means in this situation. I've been living in Europe (but not the UK) for 10 years and never heard the term until a few months ago (from a Brit). "Custom made" can be understood by anyone who speaks English...why not use that?
Huh, I never knew people in the US didn't use that word. In Australia it is used in a business context when referring to software, e.g. "Should we buy off-the-shelf or go with a bespoke solution?"
Moreover, the word means "made to order" which this item specifically is not. It can't be since the purchaser isn't even known yet. I would have used "one of a kind" instead. Also, when someone uses a an interesting or unusual word, it should be used sparingly. Every article here about this space shuttle piece uses "bespoke" to describe it. Mix it up a little.
Is so. The frame is "made to order" for the window glass.
I like the word "bespoke" it's evocative of its age from the early 1800s, and it's nicely British. It can also be used as past tense OR as a past participle!
Poor foreign countries like China where Apple products are made? There are poor quality manufacturing outfits in every country, not just 'foreign' ones. Taking care takes time and when the priority is survival, there will be compromises.
Look at HTC for example. They have clearly put in a lot more effort to design nice products than Samsung and yet Samsung makes 35x their revenue. So it doesn't always pay to put in the effort unfortunately. Lower earning companies can go bankrupt if their efforts aren't rewarded.
Yes, bad quality and good quality don't start and stop at national borders, but they do start and stop with the holding of certain ideas, and some ideas are more prevalent in certain geographical areas. And yes, China is one country where the idea of taking time and doing it right hasn't spread far and wide, but maybe the young people who work at Apple's plants will pick it up by osmosis and help to spread it around.
I always thought sui generis meant more than just unique, it meant something that is completely uncategorisable. For example if you are making a taxonomy of things and you have one or two examples that don't fit anywhere, but otherwise your scheme is perfect. The auction items are unique but still recognisable as "a camera" or "a spacesuit."
It does literally means "of its own kind" but I'd consider any one-off item to be of that nature. Even a plant or animal that have no other close relatives in terms of Genus or Species would still be easily classified up to least Order in a biological classification model.
PS: I wonder what organism is classified more distinct than any other in a biological scientific classification? A quick Google search doesn't appear to be helpful.
PS: I wonder what organism is classified more distinct than any other in a biological scientific classification? A quick Google search doesn't appear to be helpful.
Good question. Taken as a whole mankind is surely the most unique - not too many other species with cameras and spacesuits. But speaking purely biologically, maybe some strange deep sea species?
Good question. Taken as a whole mankind is surely the most unique - not too many other species with cameras and spacesuits. But speaking purely biologically, maybe some strange deep sea species?
I'd think a deep sea creature might be too simple, unless they are of the mammalian variety. My guess would be something complex that had all other ancestors wiped out for whatever reason. The more I think of this the less absolute the answer seems. There is the phenetic classification model that only uses appearance and features but I think any classification should be specifically on DNA but I'm not certain the current taxomonic model has completely migrated to phylogenetics.
I'd think a deep sea creature might be too simple, unless they are of the mammalian variety. My guess would be something complex that had all other ancestors wiped out for whatever reason. The more I think of this the less absolute the answer seems. There is the phenetic classification model that only uses appearance and features but I think any classification should be specifically on DNA but I'm not certain the current taxomonic model has completely migrated to phylogenetics.
Yes it should definitely be based on DNA these days. Once enough creatures have had their genome sequenced it should be possible to automatically generate an hierarchy with a computer program. And then maybe predict new animals we haven't seen yet like they do with the periodic table.
It does literally means "of its own kind" but I'd consider any one-off item to be of that nature. Even a plant or animal that have no other close relatives in terms of Genus or Species would still be easily classified up to least Order in a biological classification model.
PS: I wonder what organism is classified more distinct than any other in a biological scientific classification? A quick Google search doesn't appear to be helpful.
I know Macrumors is a UK site, but I didn't realize that about AI.
I would bet that 99.9% of Americans have no idea what bespoke means in this situation. I've been living in Europe (but not the UK) for 10 years and never heard the term until a few months ago (from a Brit). "Custom made" can be understood by anyone who speaks English...why not use that?
So, with all your silly quibbling over semantics, this particular BESPOKE frame garnered $847,000 at auction. A bespoke by any other name would smell as sweet, would it not?
Did you consider that maybe Ive himself used bespoke to describe the piece considering as he is British? I can't actually believe that you felt so strongly about the usage of the word bespoke that you needed to call AI out on it. Expand your vocab, bespoke is a much nicer sound then custom-made.
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I would have gone with sui generis in this particular case. Surely it's less well know than 'unique' but being Latin helps evoke an understanding of being rare, unique, and extraordinary if used in the right context.
I always thought sui generis meant more than just unique, it meant something that is completely uncategorisable. For example if you are making a taxonomy of things and you have one or two examples that don't fit anywhere, but otherwise your scheme is perfect. The auction items are unique but still recognisable as "a camera" or "a spacesuit."
I know Macrumors is a UK site, but I didn't realize that about AI.
I would bet that 99.9% of Americans have no idea what bespoke means in this situation. I've been living in Europe (but not the UK) for 10 years and never heard the term until a few months ago (from a Brit). "Custom made" can be understood by anyone who speaks English...why not use that?
Huh, I never knew people in the US didn't use that word. In Australia it is used in a business context when referring to software, e.g. "Should we buy off-the-shelf or go with a bespoke solution?"
Moreover, the word means "made to order" which this item specifically is not. It can't be since the purchaser isn't even known yet. I would have used "one of a kind" instead. Also, when someone uses a an interesting or unusual word, it should be used sparingly. Every article here about this space shuttle piece uses "bespoke" to describe it. Mix it up a little.
Is so. The frame is "made to order" for the window glass.
I like the word "bespoke" it's evocative of its age from the early 1800s, and it's nicely British. It can also be used as past tense OR as a past participle!
Poor foreign countries like China where Apple products are made? There are poor quality manufacturing outfits in every country, not just 'foreign' ones. Taking care takes time and when the priority is survival, there will be compromises.
Look at HTC for example. They have clearly put in a lot more effort to design nice products than Samsung and yet Samsung makes 35x their revenue. So it doesn't always pay to put in the effort unfortunately. Lower earning companies can go bankrupt if their efforts aren't rewarded.
Yes, bad quality and good quality don't start and stop at national borders, but they do start and stop with the holding of certain ideas, and some ideas are more prevalent in certain geographical areas. And yes, China is one country where the idea of taking time and doing it right hasn't spread far and wide, but maybe the young people who work at Apple's plants will pick it up by osmosis and help to spread it around.
It does literally means "of its own kind" but I'd consider any one-off item to be of that nature. Even a plant or animal that have no other close relatives in terms of Genus or Species would still be easily classified up to least Order in a biological classification model.
PS: I wonder what organism is classified more distinct than any other in a biological scientific classification? A quick Google search doesn't appear to be helpful.
That's crazy! I'd think that would have been one of the cheaper items, and I'm not judging that based on how much I dislike Apple's EarPods.
Aluminum desk went for $1.6 million.
edit: http://www.sothebys.com/en/auctions/2013/null-n09014.html#&i=0
Edit: $7.7M raised so far.
PS: I wonder what organism is classified more distinct than any other in a biological scientific classification? A quick Google search doesn't appear to be helpful.
Good question. Taken as a whole mankind is surely the most unique - not too many other species with cameras and spacesuits. But speaking purely biologically, maybe some strange deep sea species?
I'd think a deep sea creature might be too simple, unless they are of the mammalian variety. My guess would be something complex that had all other ancestors wiped out for whatever reason. The more I think of this the less absolute the answer seems. There is the phenetic classification model that only uses appearance and features but I think any classification should be specifically on DNA but I'm not certain the current taxomonic model has completely migrated to phylogenetics.
That better be the fastest 12-core, GPUs, and with maxed out RAM and SSD capacities.
I'd think a deep sea creature might be too simple, unless they are of the mammalian variety. My guess would be something complex that had all other ancestors wiped out for whatever reason. The more I think of this the less absolute the answer seems. There is the phenetic classification model that only uses appearance and features but I think any classification should be specifically on DNA but I'm not certain the current taxomonic model has completely migrated to phylogenetics.
Yes it should definitely be based on DNA these days. Once enough creatures have had their genome sequenced it should be possible to automatically generate an hierarchy with a computer program. And then maybe predict new animals we haven't seen yet like they do with the periodic table.
A tuatara?
So, with all your silly quibbling over semantics, this particular BESPOKE frame garnered $847,000 at auction. A bespoke by any other name would smell as sweet, would it not?