Apple's iPhone 5s & 5c take 9 of Japan's top 10 smartphone sales spots

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  • Reply 21 of 37

    Further proof that Android is crap and its sales numbers pure nonsense.

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  • Reply 22 of 37
    Android doesn't generate profit itself. Android doesn't generate profit for developers. Android generate secutity vulnerabilities. Android is an advertising engine. Not more not less.

    Apple in the opposit generates value. For Apple and it's customers as well plus additional creativity in the customers hand.

    Well, we know for what Apple stands for. But what is the reason to buy an Android device?
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  • Reply 23 of 37
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    Originally Posted by MacHarry de View Post





    Well, we know for what Apple stands for. But what is the reason to buy an Android device?

    For the vast majority of those buying Android the answer is and has been only price, either very cheap off contract or free on contract.

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  • Reply 24 of 37
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
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    Originally Posted by lukefrench View Post

     

     

    Sony trinitron CRT monitors in the early 90s. People were ready to pay huge premiums to get that (And I was one of them). 


     

    Interestingly enough I came across one the other day dumped on the footpath (sidewalk) waiting for council pick up, I was thinking of how aspirational it once was and now it was junk.

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  • Reply 25 of 37
    Please note that this chart includes all "mobile phones", not smartphones.
    The XTE phone (No.10) is not a smartphone%u3000This is made for children or for old folks.
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  • Reply 26 of 37
    steven n.steven n. Posts: 1,229member
    thedba wrote: »
    If you take the sum of all Androids all over the world vs the iPhone, then yes Android is outselling the iPhone, however Apple does not compete at the very low end and it does not compete world wide either.  The China Mobile deal is about to be closed and yes, they will increase their share of that market. However think of some other big markets where they are absent. India, Africa, South America. When that starts happening watch for more growth. I don't expect iOS to overtake Android in the overall market but I do expect them to dominate in the high end market and definitely in the profit-share and usage markets.

    I agree 100% with this assessment. It is spot on.
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  • Reply 27 of 37
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    steven n. wrote: »
    I agree 100% with this assessment. It is spot on.

    I don't agree with that statement at all. When you start off comparing the iPhone, a unified HW product, to Android, a free OS that can be installed on a flash drive and activated as a TV dongle repeatedly, there is no valid comparison.

    Now one could say that devices running Android likely outnumber devices running iOS or that cellular-capable* devices running Android probably outnumber the iPhone, and then use his stated reasons as a valid argument, but I don't think we really have anything to verify that even though I can't image that Apple's could be enough close to the number of units with Android.

    We have the iPhone consistently hitting top spots and usage numbers showing IOS-based devices far exceeding all other mobile OSes. The only known win for Android being the sheer number of vendors and models that one can choose from and at remarkably low prices. A look on Amazon will show an innumerable number of crap devices.


    * Note I didn't say smartphones. I don't think running Android in and of itself qualities as being a smartphone class device.
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  • Reply 28 of 37
    thedba wrote: »
    If you take the sum of all Androids all over the world vs the iPhone, then yes Android is outselling the iPhone, however Apple does not compete at the very low end and it does not compete world wide either.  The China Mobile deal is about to be closed and yes, they will increase their share of that market. However think of some other big markets where they are absent. India, Africa, South America. When that starts happening watch for more growth. I don't expect iOS to overtake Android in the overall market but I do expect them to dominate in the high end market and definitely in the profit-share and usage markets.

    Apple already dominates in the high end.
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  • Reply 29 of 37
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    So Apple was right about the 5c after all?


     

    I don't think they were ever "wrong" about it. 

     

    It's the "previous generation" phone, simply repackaged to both differentiate it from the "new" 5 series, and to broaden the overall offering and appeal. It's otherwise not that different from their previous approach to this "cycle upgrade" pattern.

     

    The 5c is priced like the 4s was when the 5 was the new line. They added an extra tier (32GB), bumped the specs a tad. Very smart in my view.

     

    No-one except the idiot analysts and Apple naysayers ever implied it would sell "neck and neck" with or even beat the new 5s sales. They were all too self-focused on "Apple releasing a 'cheap' iPhone". 

     

    No, I'm pretty sure Apple expected the ratio to be similar to previous rollouts. Or, perhaps they anticipated exactly what has happened. That the "previous generation" model (albeit repackaged) would sell far fewer than their new flagship model. At least, in the 'fully developed' countries.

     

    It will be interesting to see what the ratio will be for China Mobile after the 5s/c series launch there (presumably on December 18th?).

     

    I'm sure the iPhone will hang about in the top ten there too, both the 5s and 5c...

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  • Reply 30 of 37
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    Originally Posted by boxerconan View Post



    Please note that this chart includes all "mobile phones", not smartphones.

    The XTE phone (No.10) is not a smartphone%u3000This is made for children or for old folks.


     

     

    That makes it even more amazing, in my view. All of the phones in the top 10, except that one, are Apple smartphones. We know that 2 more are in the remaining 11 ~ 20, and one by Samsung. So, at least 13 of the top 20 phones in Japan are smartphones, 12 of those are iPhone. And that's competing with EVERYTHING, not just the smartphone segment? Wow.

     

    That XTE phone is a cool little device, by the way. Great for kids, especially in Japan. I would have loved one of those for my kid when I was living there...

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  • Reply 31 of 37
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    * Note I didn't say smartphones. I don't think running Android in and of itself qualities as being a smartphone class device.

     

    Correct, if those "android running" USB dongles that "activate" as a tablet are any indication. They run Android. They aren't remotely a "smartphone".

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  • Reply 32 of 37
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Correct, if those "android running" USB dongles that "activate" as a tablet are any indication. They run Android. They aren't remotely a "smartphone".

    In that instance I was referring to bona fide cellphones that are running Android aren't necessarily what I'd call a smartphone.
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  • Reply 33 of 37
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    Originally Posted by nagromme View Post



    I've got the headline:



    "Apple's Desperate Grab in Japan: Three iPhone Models Sink in Sales Ranking, While Android's Asian Conquest Sees ZTE Surge Into Top Ten"

     

    Ah, yes. The Mikey Campbell-style headline.

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  • Reply 34 of 37
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    Originally Posted by crazy_mac_lover View Post



    Japanese loves using quality products. That is their habit to know what is the best quality .

    Not necessarily. Like everywhere else, Japan runs primarily on Windows PCs.

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  • Reply 35 of 37
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    OR...  every analyst is wrong.

    The bottom line is the 5c is the 'wheeler-dealer' phone.  It allows deeper discounts and bundling without affecting profits as much.   It has the iPhone '5' cachet, at a lower price.  It's not meant to be the highest volume selling phone... it's meant to be the 'next phone' you'd think about if you don't have he money or the need for a 5s

    The 5c also makes 32GB more affordable at around the same price as a 5s 16GB.
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  • Reply 36 of 37

    What, the ZTE 202Z is at 10th place????

     

    Apple is DOOMED!

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