jcc wrote: »
This a$$ clown is full of sh!t. Why doesn't he mention how other parts of the world where this is already standard practice have data rates 1/10th of what we pay???
They will just replace the "subsidy paid for by a hidden perpetual surcharge" with an installment plan, just like what T-Mobile does. And you are better off with a T-Mobile style plan because once the phone is paid for, the installment payments end. As it is now with AT&T and Verizon, you keep paying the surcharge even after they have recouped the cost of the phone. And by the way, T-Mobile doesn't charge you any interest when they advanced the cost of the phone.
If you think your cell phone carrier was being so generous when they "subsidized" the cost of your smartphone, I am afraid you have been deceived these last few years.
What has changed from the customer perspective to require them to up front pay the full price of the phone?
Currently, carriers continue to charge the "subsidy fee" even after the end of the 24-month contract. So, whether you upgrade or not, you're paying the subsidy every two years, and see only the subsidized price of the phone at contract renewal time. You do not have the option of declining the subsidy fees if you keep your old phone. This is a powerful incentive to upgrade every contract cycle.
Absent subsidies, your installment payments will end after two years. If you do not upgrade your phone, your monthly bill will decline. This is a powerful incentive to NOT upgrade your phone every contract cycle.
This is also an incentive to purchase service month-to-month. Customers opting to buy their phones outright have no incentive to sign lengthy contracts (unless the carriers offer some other incentive to do so). If the phone is purchased unlocked, the carriers lose any hold they have on customers, other than by offering the most compelling value.
Actually, it's 500 MB for each user. Once you exceed that, you don't get cut off, your feed gets downgraded to a slower speed. If you want 2.5 GB 4G, then pay $10 extra per month per phone (you can choose to upgrade only one line), if you want unlimited 4G, then pay $20 extra.I have 5 phones on my account, $135 a month including taxes. unlimited talk and text and 500 MB data for each of the 5 phones. You can't beat that with a stick. Caveat: the deal is great only if T-Mo has good coverage in your area.
So, sometime next week?
dasanman69 wrote: »
Because they're 1/10th the size of the US.
john.b wrote: »
So, sometime next week?
jcc wrote: »
Sorry but China is not 1/10the the size of US. The Euro zone is also not 1/10th the size as the carriers operate as a single entity there.
Network installation and maintenance costs per user are largely based on population density rather absolute population. The USA has a higher population density than Norway, Sweden or Finland and yet suffers significantly higher cell phone charges.
Well, for AT&T I doubt it will be cheaper than current costs. Otherwise why would they be pushing for it to end?
What AT&T wants to do is end subsidies AND keep the current rates. If they are dumb enough to do that while Verizon keeps subsidies I'll finally move.
Actually, it's 500 MB for each user. Once you exceed that, you don't get cut off, your feed gets downgraded to a slower speed. If you want 2.5 GB 4G, then pay $10 extra per month per phone (you can choose to upgrade only one line), if you want unlimited 4G, then pay $20 extra.
I have 5 phones on my account, $135 a month including taxes. unlimited talk and text and 500 MB data for each of the 5 phones. You can't beat that with a stick. Caveat: the deal is great only if T-Mo has good coverage in your area.
That is a good deal.
T-mobile also has a pre-paid plan that gives you unlimited text, 100 voice minutes, and 5GB of data for $30/month. Perfect for our 13 year old daughter, who will be getting an iPhone 5c this Christmas.
We have good T-mobile coverage in San Diego, but YMMV.
The cost of phones is going to come down too. I remember when i bought my first digital camera i paid a shit load and it didnt even do much and now it can be had for cheap.
I just paid 380 for i5 1tera 8GB laptop why should i be paying 600+ on a phone makes no sense. I see most high end phones to drop to 400 in 1yr in 2-3yrs a high-end phone without a contract could be had for 200.
Tmo is also like a contract but it specifies the breakdown which is good for the consumer. and there r no hidden fees like early termination. its always better to buy phone without contract. I have always paid full price and pay very very little. You can get att lte plan from Straight talk for 45 and some unlimited plans start at 35/mon but with slower speeds.
There are alot of options for gsm phones right now i guess most ppl don't know about them
frood wrote: »
This isn't great news for companies that have expensive models that rely on subsidies to make them appear to be 'about the same cost' as other phones (Samsungs high end models, and yes, iPhones).
I don't see this happening. If you have an iPhone, you already paid the full price for it. It was part of the monthly bill. The carrier effectively "loaned" you the money to buy the phone. Nothing has fundamentally changed in the "new" model except the carriers are now explicitly telling you that you're getting a loan.
As for lower income customers being locked out: I don't see that either. If a person walks into a carrier store they can still walk out with a new iPhone with almost nothing out of pocket. Or, in the case of T-Mobile, as mentioned above, nothing out of pocket.
You can get att lte plan from Straight talk for 45…
Straight Talk does not contract any LTE network.
i personally wont go for the moto g but there r tons of ppl who dont need anything more advanced.
moto g is similar to last yrs top of the line phones but still missing somethings.
I would rather for for nexus 5 which has everything a top of the line phone should have.
dasanman69 wrote: »
Why do you assume it'd be cheaper?