I suppose this is sort of a reply to the "iSheep buy iCrap" comment, but it's a meaningful summary of the apple experience.
We bought the $99 airport express last night.
The little thing is like JEWELRY. It's like a physical app-icon you can hold in your hand. It's glossy plastic around the rim (with peel plastic to 'reveal' it as-such). The top is matte, with an apple logo. The bottom is slightly beige, with another logo, "swollen out" a smidge (circular), so it sits "up" a bit when you set it down.
Where the REAL problem lies is people's failure to see the Apple is the best of both worlds. High end AND a good value.
I don't have any illusions about my $8 wine, but people have reverse-illusions about Apple.
So be it.
I agree that the AirPort Express is a great device, but I preferred the old design, where you could plug the box directly into the power strip with no wire and it was just as thick as the plug. It sits on the strip right next to the Power Supply for the MacBook Pro, which is also that same thickness. While I appreciate that the new one has Ethernet out, I think the old form factor was better.
While I haven't tried the new one, there is an issue with the old one and that's when you setup more than one to extend WiFi range, it consumes bandwidth which reduces speed. I was having problems watching streaming movies because they would constantly cache. I would go back to the Mac and check speed and everything would seem to be okay. I disconnected the living room AirPort Express which was the one being used with the home theatre and had those systems pick up WiFi from the dining room Express and the speed came back.
I suppose this is sort of a reply to the "iSheep buy iCrap" comment, but it's a meaningful summary of the apple experience.
We bought the $99 airport express last night.
The little thing is like JEWELRY. It's like a physical app-icon you can hold in your hand. It's glossy plastic around the rim (with peel plastic to 'reveal' it as-such). The top is matte, with an apple logo. The bottom is slightly beige, with another logo, "swollen out" a smidge (circular), so it sits "up" a bit when you set it down.
Where the REAL problem lies is people's failure to see the Apple is the best of both worlds. High end AND a good value.
I don't have any illusions about my $8 wine, but people have reverse-illusions about Apple.
So be it.
While I haven't tried the new one, there is an issue with the old one and that's when you setup more than one to extend WiFi range, it consumes bandwidth which reduces speed. I was having problems watching streaming movies because they would constantly cache. I would go back to the Mac and check speed and everything would seem to be okay. I disconnected the living room AirPort Express which was the one being used with the home theatre and had those systems pick up WiFi from the dining room Express and the speed came back.
If you've got the 5Ghz model for you base station and extender, you can split into 2 networks and manage better your bandwidth by splitting your devices between the 2.4ghz and the 5Ghz network.
Thanks for keep assuming that it is my own personal fault and disregard anything that AnandTech and other users on Apple discussion forum have to say. Yeah... if a third party app brings down iOS 7, which you believe is the case and I don't, all Apple needs to do is blame the user and the third party app developer.
Selling more iOS7 + A7 than any other iOS device is not a measure of quality at all unless you believe Windows has always been a better product than Mac OS X.
By the way, the fact that competitors and haters are not pinpointing your issues does not mean the issues do not exist. Not many Apple haters point out the design issues that caused the white Macbook case to crack easily back years ago. Oh well, you are probably going to blame the users any way just because Apple sold a lot of that Macbook plastic junk.
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You should check and keep an eye on what you have installed and use on your iPad, because Apple has currently sold more iOS7 + A7 devices than any other iOS devices in the past. If there was a really issue here, be assured the media, fandroids and every competitor would knock on every nails against Apple they can found.
Maybe. I use 2 to 4 Watt to be safer, and it just feels more than 1 or 2 Watt based on the battery tests I've seen. I'm relatively certain you can burn down an iPad Air battery in 6 to 7 hours by turning the screen brightness down to the lowest setting (probably 1 to 2 Watts) and running a complex game or application. So, the SoC is probably hitting somewhere between 2 to 4 Watts.
Lastly, 4 Watt TDP for the tablet is likely the limit due to skin temperatures, and it's doubtful to me that Apple won't try to use every bit of that. And I feel 2 Watt TDP is likely the limit for smartphones and skin temperatures.
I agree, we don't know for sure and Apple has never disclose specs about this, but the original iPhone off the shelve CPU has been dissected by third party on every level and found to work around 1W. Ever since all iphone got pretty much the same battery capacity and retain the same battery autonomy.
I applause Apple for not adding bigger battery to compensate for any improvement that can be power hungry and instead working for keeping pretty much the same power usage while keep offering greater performance at every generation.
Meanwhile, Intel's x86-64 Bay Trail (22nm Silvermont + Ivy Bridge GPU) is already on the market. In 2014 Intel is planning their tick-tock with Cherry Trail (14nm Airmont + Broadwell GPU) and Willow Trail (14nm Goldmont + Skylake GPU). Intel will also be launching a successor to their current LTE chip with LTE-Advanced in 2014.
That's the standard retort from camp Wintel: wait until (insert laundry list of Intel code names hyped on Anandtech). Then you'll see! Microsoft Windows 8 will own the future!
It need a battery twice has big than the iPhone 5S to achieve 8.5 hours on a looping video with full hardware acceleration, no sound and 50% brightness, which you can't compare with a web browsing test.
The Intel phone has twice the screen area with more density. Look at what drains the battery the most and its always the screen.
The iphone battery performance dropped going from 5 to 5s.
Thanks for keep assuming that it is my own personal fault and disregard anything that AnandTech and other users on Apple discussion forum have to say. Yeah... if a third party app brings down iOS 7, which you believe is the case and I don't, all Apple needs to do is blame the user and the third party app developer.
Selling more iOS7 + A7 than any other iOS device is not a measure of quality at all unless you believe Windows has always been a better product than Mac OS X.
By the way, the fact that competitors and haters are not pinpointing your issues does not mean the issues do not exist. Not many Apple haters point out the design issues that caused the white Macbook case to crack easily back years ago. Oh well, you are probably going to blame the users any way just because Apple sold a lot of that Macbook plastic junk.
Agree It is always easier to blame some else for their own mistake. Also I do agree the volume of sales do not represent the quality of a product, but it make much more easy to identify a major design flaw if every device is affected with. Apple has never got a free pass before, every new product Apple comes with is scrutinize by so many groups so happy to get something bad to say about Apple and their product.
I totally disagree with you about calling those MacBook being plastic junk just because of a esthetic problems, have you got one of those MacBook? I've got many at my office, I still do have one in perfect shape, for the price and the time (2007), it was one of the best small laptop on the market, the cracking case issues was purely esthetic and never tempered the laptop functionnallity.
Intel is indeed a dangerous competitor, and could come up with quite a few wins for Merrifield in 1H 14. But what you list isn't proof. These are all tablets with 4 to 8 W TDP. Smartphones will be in 2 to 4 W TDP levels. Wait and see on whether Merrifield can compete with Snapdragon 805 next year.
The Medfield Xolos were middle of the Android pack for battery life.
You mean anemic like the Xeons in the Mac Pro or the Core i7s in the iMac?
Intel's problem isn't that they aren't powerful but that they suck down too much power. Something they've been working on the last few generations.
Ugh? I wasn't talking about Desktop CPU..... Intel problem is they need to slowdowns and remove to much feature from their CPU to make it work on mobile devices.
"Although things seem to have improved with iOS 7.0.3, the 64-bit builds of the OS still seem to run into stability issues more frequently than their 32-bit counterparts. I still see low memory errors associated with any crashes. It could just be that the move to 64-bit applications (and associated memory pressure) is putting more stress on iOS’ memory management routines, which in turn exposes some weaknesses. The iPad Air crashed a couple of times on me (3 times total during the past week), but no where near as much as earlier devices running iOS 7.0.1."
If you bothered to read the link I provided, you would know what I'm talking about. Above is the quote from the link I posted. Many others on Apple's forum and I have similar issues with iOS 7. If it is an issue caused by third party app, then I would have this same issue with iOS 6 installed on my old iPad, which is not the case. Unfortunately, my new iPad Air crashes at least every other day.
your experience and the various forum comments are all ad hoc reports. my ad hoc report is that none of my three iOS 7 devices have had a system crash yet, including a new iPad Mini. so the first question is if some app that is in background state but checking occasionally for activity is the problem for those of you with crash reports. the issue is clearly not so widespread as to be affecting everyone, we would have heard about that by now.
without much more real world user info and technical analysis (including Anandtech), you are jumping to conclusions.
I will not hold my breath on this one.... Historically, the pentium architecture as been notoriously big and power hungry, over time Intel as working hard to lower its CPU power consumption by stripping features out, lower the clock frequency and lower the fab process. In another hand, the ARM processor has been created with the absolute opposite in mind, a small CPU built for power efficiency at first and been augmented overtime. So ARM SoC still have a lot of headroom for further enhancement, the A7 is still an 28nm SoC and can gain the same advantage from going to 22nm or 14nm has Intel is planning for their future anemic CPUs.
Silvermont (and on) is not a product of Intel stripping features. They're building it from the ground up. Intel was a little late to the party on the mobile focus, but even upon entry they're already a step ahead of the competition. Bay Trail and its (real world) capabilities is proof of their efforts.
That's the standard retort from camp Wintel: wait until (insert laundry list of Intel code names hyped on Anandtech). Then you'll see! Microsoft Windows 8 will own the future!
I suppose this is sort of a reply to the "iSheep buy iCrap" comment, but it's a meaningful summary of the apple experience.
We bought the $99 airport express last night. Our old-timer Linksys WRT54G (missing a letter in there I think), has just about had it.
The little airport express is in a tiny box of course, with a great little cardboard thing providing a little "Voila!" experience (remember W. Mossberg saying that Steve showed him early-release products sometimes and even when it was just-him there was a little cloth over the product, so Steve could "Voila" him?).
The little thing is like JEWELRY. It's like a physical app-icon you can hold in your hand. It's glossy plastic around the rim (with peel plastic to 'reveal' it as-such). The top is matte, with an apple logo. The bottom is slightly beige, with another logo, "swollen out" a smidge (circular), so it sits "up" a bit when you set it down.
The power cord is great. Perfectly coiled in the box. Quality materials in your hand. For the Cord! The plug is tiny. No big-ass power brick like some crap from HP.
It's impossibly small for what it does (wireless printing, audio-out). And of course it just works, is easy to set up, provides better signal, etc etc.
It's COMPLETELY SOLID. It's like the little thing was poured like the plastic in the iPhone 5C commercials.
It's "just" a little router, yet fully and completely encapsulates the Apple experience.
My buddy with me in the Apple store said, "$100!?!?!" in protest.
We say here that people don't "get" the Apple experience, but deep down everyone does. We all have our high end temptations, and we all have our low-cost-temptations.
I buy Apple products due to the high end experience, but can't resist cheap wine ("hey this is $8!").
Where the REAL problem lies is people's failure to see the Apple is the best of both worlds. High end AND a good value.
I don't have any illusions about my $8 wine, but people have reverse-illusions about Apple.
So be it.
I just bought the new Airport extreme yesterday and while functionally this is a great product there are 2 major design flaws.
1. The freaking box is weird. There's no way of knowing you have to unpack it vertically. I unpacked it sideways and the router fell out onto the ground and the black apple logo on the top fell off.
2. The extra ethernet ports on the rear are arranged vertically very close together. It is near impossible to unplug one of the ethernet cables in any but the topmost port because you cannot depress the plastic locking tab. I had to remove all my cables just to replace the one on the bottom.
Silvermont (and on) is not a product of Intel stripping features. They're building it from the ground up. Intel was a little late to the party on the mobile focus, but even upon entry they're already a step ahead of the competition. Bay Trail and its (real world) capabilities is proof of their efforts.
Until the Silvermont, every previous Intel attempt was base of Atom architecture without Out of order capability, Silvermont will change this but still base of Atom and Celeron architecture. As I said, Intel can't win against ARM on effiency with all x86 legacy their CPU needs.
The K900 was using CloverTrail+, which is based on an outdated architecture (Saltwell). The jump from Saltwell to Silvermont was substantial.
Too bad it's currently the prime and sole example of a Intel Soc in a smartphone. 2 years ago Clovertrail got the same level of praise of the forthcoming Silvermont and under deliver on actual product, like the nVidia Tegra, they got a lot of hype and praised by the bloggosphere, but got deceiving product at the end.
LOL. Anandtech readers waving a fistful of code names and nanometer specs have infected this thread. What's the meme now? That the A7 is not "real 64-bit" because Safari crashes on my iPad Air? Bugs in iOS 7 don't magically un-64-bit the A7, folks. Those are separate issues.
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I suppose this is sort of a reply to the "iSheep buy iCrap" comment, but it's a meaningful summary of the apple experience.
We bought the $99 airport express last night.
The little thing is like JEWELRY. It's like a physical app-icon you can hold in your hand. It's glossy plastic around the rim (with peel plastic to 'reveal' it as-such). The top is matte, with an apple logo. The bottom is slightly beige, with another logo, "swollen out" a smidge (circular), so it sits "up" a bit when you set it down.
Where the REAL problem lies is people's failure to see the Apple is the best of both worlds. High end AND a good value.
I don't have any illusions about my $8 wine, but people have reverse-illusions about Apple.
So be it.
I agree that the AirPort Express is a great device, but I preferred the old design, where you could plug the box directly into the power strip with no wire and it was just as thick as the plug. It sits on the strip right next to the Power Supply for the MacBook Pro, which is also that same thickness. While I appreciate that the new one has Ethernet out, I think the old form factor was better.While I haven't tried the new one, there is an issue with the old one and that's when you setup more than one to extend WiFi range, it consumes bandwidth which reduces speed. I was having problems watching streaming movies because they would constantly cache. I would go back to the Mac and check speed and everything would seem to be okay. I disconnected the living room AirPort Express which was the one being used with the home theatre and had those systems pick up WiFi from the dining room Express and the speed came back.
I suppose this is sort of a reply to the "iSheep buy iCrap" comment, but it's a meaningful summary of the apple experience.
We bought the $99 airport express last night.
The little thing is like JEWELRY. It's like a physical app-icon you can hold in your hand. It's glossy plastic around the rim (with peel plastic to 'reveal' it as-such). The top is matte, with an apple logo. The bottom is slightly beige, with another logo, "swollen out" a smidge (circular), so it sits "up" a bit when you set it down.
Where the REAL problem lies is people's failure to see the Apple is the best of both worlds. High end AND a good value.
I don't have any illusions about my $8 wine, but people have reverse-illusions about Apple.
So be it.
While I haven't tried the new one, there is an issue with the old one and that's when you setup more than one to extend WiFi range, it consumes bandwidth which reduces speed. I was having problems watching streaming movies because they would constantly cache. I would go back to the Mac and check speed and everything would seem to be okay. I disconnected the living room AirPort Express which was the one being used with the home theatre and had those systems pick up WiFi from the dining room Express and the speed came back.
If you've got the 5Ghz model for you base station and extender, you can split into 2 networks and manage better your bandwidth by splitting your devices between the 2.4ghz and the 5Ghz network.
Thanks for keep assuming that it is my own personal fault and disregard anything that AnandTech and other users on Apple discussion forum have to say. Yeah... if a third party app brings down iOS 7, which you believe is the case and I don't, all Apple needs to do is blame the user and the third party app developer.
Selling more iOS7 + A7 than any other iOS device is not a measure of quality at all unless you believe Windows has always been a better product than Mac OS X.
By the way, the fact that competitors and haters are not pinpointing your issues does not mean the issues do not exist. Not many Apple haters point out the design issues that caused the white Macbook case to crack easily back years ago. Oh well, you are probably going to blame the users any way just because Apple sold a lot of that Macbook plastic junk.
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You should check and keep an eye on what you have installed and use on your iPad, because Apple has currently sold more iOS7 + A7 devices than any other iOS devices in the past. If there was a really issue here, be assured the media, fandroids and every competitor would knock on every nails against Apple they can found.
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Maybe. I use 2 to 4 Watt to be safer, and it just feels more than 1 or 2 Watt based on the battery tests I've seen. I'm relatively certain you can burn down an iPad Air battery in 6 to 7 hours by turning the screen brightness down to the lowest setting (probably 1 to 2 Watts) and running a complex game or application. So, the SoC is probably hitting somewhere between 2 to 4 Watts.
Lastly, 4 Watt TDP for the tablet is likely the limit due to skin temperatures, and it's doubtful to me that Apple won't try to use every bit of that. And I feel 2 Watt TDP is likely the limit for smartphones and skin temperatures.
I agree, we don't know for sure and Apple has never disclose specs about this, but the original iPhone off the shelve CPU has been dissected by third party on every level and found to work around 1W. Ever since all iphone got pretty much the same battery capacity and retain the same battery autonomy.
I applause Apple for not adding bigger battery to compensate for any improvement that can be power hungry and instead working for keeping pretty much the same power usage while keep offering greater performance at every generation.
That's the standard retort from camp Wintel: wait until (insert laundry list of Intel code names hyped on Anandtech). Then you'll see! Microsoft Windows 8 will own the future!
It need a battery twice has big than the iPhone 5S to achieve 8.5 hours on a looping video with full hardware acceleration, no sound and 50% brightness, which you can't compare with a web browsing test.
The Intel phone has twice the screen area with more density. Look at what drains the battery the most and its always the screen.
The iphone battery performance dropped going from 5 to 5s.
the A7 is still an 28nm SoC and can gain the same advantage from going to 22nm or 14nm has Intel is planning for their future anemic CPUs.
You mean anemic like the Xeons in the Mac Pro or the Core i7s in the iMac?
Intel's problem isn't that they aren't powerful but that they suck down too much power. Something they've been working on the last few generations.
Thanks for keep assuming that it is my own personal fault and disregard anything that AnandTech and other users on Apple discussion forum have to say. Yeah... if a third party app brings down iOS 7, which you believe is the case and I don't, all Apple needs to do is blame the user and the third party app developer.
Selling more iOS7 + A7 than any other iOS device is not a measure of quality at all unless you believe Windows has always been a better product than Mac OS X.
By the way, the fact that competitors and haters are not pinpointing your issues does not mean the issues do not exist. Not many Apple haters point out the design issues that caused the white Macbook case to crack easily back years ago. Oh well, you are probably going to blame the users any way just because Apple sold a lot of that Macbook plastic junk.
Agree It is always easier to blame some else for their own mistake. Also I do agree the volume of sales do not represent the quality of a product, but it make much more easy to identify a major design flaw if every device is affected with. Apple has never got a free pass before, every new product Apple comes with is scrutinize by so many groups so happy to get something bad to say about Apple and their product.
I totally disagree with you about calling those MacBook being plastic junk just because of a esthetic problems, have you got one of those MacBook? I've got many at my office, I still do have one in perfect shape, for the price and the time (2007), it was one of the best small laptop on the market, the cracking case issues was purely esthetic and never tempered the laptop functionnallity.
Intel is indeed a dangerous competitor, and could come up with quite a few wins for Merrifield in 1H 14. But what you list isn't proof. These are all tablets with 4 to 8 W TDP. Smartphones will be in 2 to 4 W TDP levels. Wait and see on whether Merrifield can compete with Snapdragon 805 next year.
The Medfield Xolos were middle of the Android pack for battery life.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5770/lava-xolo-x900-review-the-first-intel-medfield-phone/6
You mean anemic like the Xeons in the Mac Pro or the Core i7s in the iMac?
Intel's problem isn't that they aren't powerful but that they suck down too much power. Something they've been working on the last few generations.
Ugh? I wasn't talking about Desktop CPU..... Intel problem is they need to slowdowns and remove to much feature from their CPU to make it work on mobile devices.
What pisses me off though, is how Apple haven't got a 5" screen iPhone yet...
- personally, I am loath to upgrade my aging iPhone 3GS to a 5s with the 4" screen
- my aging eyes really need a bigger screen...
While it doesn't "piss me off", I do agree that a 4.7" screen is a good thing and will happen next year. The naysayers will be proven wrong in 2014.
"Although things seem to have improved with iOS 7.0.3, the 64-bit builds of the OS still seem to run into stability issues more frequently than their 32-bit counterparts. I still see low memory errors associated with any crashes. It could just be that the move to 64-bit applications (and associated memory pressure) is putting more stress on iOS’ memory management routines, which in turn exposes some weaknesses. The iPad Air crashed a couple of times on me (3 times total during the past week), but no where near as much as earlier devices running iOS 7.0.1."
If you bothered to read the link I provided, you would know what I'm talking about. Above is the quote from the link I posted. Many others on Apple's forum and I have similar issues with iOS 7. If it is an issue caused by third party app, then I would have this same issue with iOS 6 installed on my old iPad, which is not the case. Unfortunately, my new iPad Air crashes at least every other day.
your experience and the various forum comments are all ad hoc reports. my ad hoc report is that none of my three iOS 7 devices have had a system crash yet, including a new iPad Mini. so the first question is if some app that is in background state but checking occasionally for activity is the problem for those of you with crash reports. the issue is clearly not so widespread as to be affecting everyone, we would have heard about that by now.
without much more real world user info and technical analysis (including Anandtech), you are jumping to conclusions.
I will not hold my breath on this one.... Historically, the pentium architecture as been notoriously big and power hungry, over time Intel as working hard to lower its CPU power consumption by stripping features out, lower the clock frequency and lower the fab process. In another hand, the ARM processor has been created with the absolute opposite in mind, a small CPU built for power efficiency at first and been augmented overtime. So ARM SoC still have a lot of headroom for further enhancement, the A7 is still an 28nm SoC and can gain the same advantage from going to 22nm or 14nm has Intel is planning for their future anemic CPUs.
Silvermont (and on) is not a product of Intel stripping features. They're building it from the ground up. Intel was a little late to the party on the mobile focus, but even upon entry they're already a step ahead of the competition. Bay Trail and its (real world) capabilities is proof of their efforts.
The Intel phone has twice the screen area with more density. Look at what drains the battery the most and its always the screen.
The iphone battery performance dropped going from 5 to 5s.
No true, Radios and backlight is what is mostly draining the battery, 2 things limited on your K900 review article and not in your other benchmark.
That's the standard retort from camp Wintel: wait until (insert laundry list of Intel code names hyped on Anandtech). Then you'll see! Microsoft Windows 8 will own the future!
Why wait? Bay Trail is already on the market.
I suppose this is sort of a reply to the "iSheep buy iCrap" comment, but it's a meaningful summary of the apple experience.
We bought the $99 airport express last night. Our old-timer Linksys WRT54G (missing a letter in there I think), has just about had it.
The little airport express is in a tiny box of course, with a great little cardboard thing providing a little "Voila!" experience (remember W. Mossberg saying that Steve showed him early-release products sometimes and even when it was just-him there was a little cloth over the product, so Steve could "Voila" him?).
The little thing is like JEWELRY. It's like a physical app-icon you can hold in your hand. It's glossy plastic around the rim (with peel plastic to 'reveal' it as-such). The top is matte, with an apple logo. The bottom is slightly beige, with another logo, "swollen out" a smidge (circular), so it sits "up" a bit when you set it down.
The power cord is great. Perfectly coiled in the box. Quality materials in your hand. For the Cord! The plug is tiny. No big-ass power brick like some crap from HP.
It's impossibly small for what it does (wireless printing, audio-out). And of course it just works, is easy to set up, provides better signal, etc etc.
It's COMPLETELY SOLID. It's like the little thing was poured like the plastic in the iPhone 5C commercials.
It's "just" a little router, yet fully and completely encapsulates the Apple experience.
My buddy with me in the Apple store said, "$100!?!?!" in protest.
We say here that people don't "get" the Apple experience, but deep down everyone does. We all have our high end temptations, and we all have our low-cost-temptations.
I buy Apple products due to the high end experience, but can't resist cheap wine ("hey this is $8!").
Where the REAL problem lies is people's failure to see the Apple is the best of both worlds. High end AND a good value.
I don't have any illusions about my $8 wine, but people have reverse-illusions about Apple.
So be it.
I just bought the new Airport extreme yesterday and while functionally this is a great product there are 2 major design flaws.
1. The freaking box is weird. There's no way of knowing you have to unpack it vertically. I unpacked it sideways and the router fell out onto the ground and the black apple logo on the top fell off.
2. The extra ethernet ports on the rear are arranged vertically very close together. It is near impossible to unplug one of the ethernet cables in any but the topmost port because you cannot depress the plastic locking tab. I had to remove all my cables just to replace the one on the bottom.
I expected better industrial design from Apple.
K900
The K900 was using CloverTrail+, which is based on an outdated architecture (Saltwell). The jump from Saltwell to Silvermont was substantial.
Silvermont (and on) is not a product of Intel stripping features. They're building it from the ground up. Intel was a little late to the party on the mobile focus, but even upon entry they're already a step ahead of the competition. Bay Trail and its (real world) capabilities is proof of their efforts.
Until the Silvermont, every previous Intel attempt was base of Atom architecture without Out of order capability, Silvermont will change this but still base of Atom and Celeron architecture. As I said, Intel can't win against ARM on effiency with all x86 legacy their CPU needs.
The K900 was using CloverTrail+, which is based on an outdated architecture (Saltwell). The jump from Saltwell to Silvermont was substantial.
Too bad it's currently the prime and sole example of a Intel Soc in a smartphone. 2 years ago Clovertrail got the same level of praise of the forthcoming Silvermont and under deliver on actual product, like the nVidia Tegra, they got a lot of hype and praised by the bloggosphere, but got deceiving product at the end.