Appeals court upholds ITC ruling that Apple did not infringe Motorola data patent [u]

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  • Reply 41 of 83
    muppetrymuppetry Posts: 3,331member
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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post



    You must have missed the past half dozen times I've answered similar queries here. Nope, no connection to Google at all. Not even a share of stock. Now a question for you. What anti-Apple comments from me can you point to? On the contrary I have a lot of respect and interest in Apple.

     

    I agree that you don't post anti-Apple comments, but I think that at times, given the perceived tensions between Google and Apple and the widespread dislike of Google among many of the regular posters (which I admit I am starting to share in respect of their intrusive software), defending Google is easily conflated with attacking Apple. You are the most regular defender of Google on the forum, excluding the obvious Android trolls, and you are rarely, if ever, a Google critic.

  • Reply 42 of 83
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    tzeshan wrote: »

    May be you can ask him if he uses any Apple products. 
    You're not gonna suck me into that well known troll tactic. Nice try tho LOL
  • Reply 43 of 83
    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post

    You're not gonna suck me into that well known troll tactic. Nice try tho LOL



    This is the reverse, though, isn’t it? When proffered, it invalidates, but when requested… <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />

  • Reply 44 of 83
    muppetrymuppetry Posts: 3,331member
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    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     
    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post

    You're not gonna suck me into that well known troll tactic. Nice try tho LOL



    This is the reverse, though, isn’t it? When proffered, it invalidates, but when requested… <img class=" src="http://forums-files.appleinsider.com/images/smilies//lol.gif" />


     

    That would be entrapment...

  • Reply 45 of 83
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    muppetry wrote: »
    you are rarely, if ever, a Google critic.
    I'm sure we would both agree there's no lack of Google bashing here so I don't know how I could improve on everyone else's hard and well-researched work.

    With that said there are times I've criticized them too. Googles hard-to-believe-it-was-accidental Safari cookie adventure, the disappointing ITC patent complaints Moto filed on Apple after the Google purchase (that was properly dropped within weeks) and the "sure-it-was-inadvertant" WiFi skimming with Street view come to mind as examples.
  • Reply 46 of 83
    muppetrymuppetry Posts: 3,331member
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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post

     
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by muppetry View Post



    you are rarely, if ever, a Google critic.


    I'm sure we would both agree there's no lack of Google bashing here so I don't know how I could improve on everyone else's hard and well-researched work.



    With that said there are times I've criticized them too. Googles hard-to-believe-it-was-accidental Safari cookie adventure, the disappointing ITC patent complaints Moto filed on Apple after the Google purchase (that was properly dropped within weeks) and the "sure-it-was-inadvertant" WiFi skimming with Street view come to mind as examples.

     

    I've always assumed that the rampant Google bashing was what led you to try to balance things in the other direction, and your examples are valid, but it doesn't change the overall impression that you are much more a supporter than a critic. I'm sure that's all that drives the accusations by posters who genuinely feel that Google is actually rather evil. It's an inevitability given the territory.

  • Reply 47 of 83
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Here's to the crazy ones, the outliers of society who make a personal choice to avoid using Google as much as possible.

    Something a lot of people have trouble accepting.
  • Reply 48 of 83
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,926member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    You're not gonna suck me into that well known troll tactic. Nice try tho LOL

    Ok, now how long have you been using Apple products? :)
  • Reply 49 of 83
    I think the $12 billion cost of purchasing Motorola was to protect Android from Motorola. So may be it was necessary (extortion).
  • Reply 50 of 83
    Originally Posted by youclay View Post

    I think the $12 billion cost of purchasing Motorola was to protect Android from Motorola.

     

    Who used Android before the purchase…

  • Reply 51 of 83
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    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post



    I'm sure we would both agree there's no lack of Google bashing here so I don't know how I could improve on everyone else's hard and well-researched work.

    One of these days, you'll probably get pushed sufficiently enough into the corner and....

     

    That said, you still have not responded to my bewilderment at your massive swipe at Apple about '....courtooms they did not like....'.

     

    Care to elaborate, or are you being coy? Or perhaps just avoiding the question?

  • Reply 52 of 83
    tbelltbell Posts: 3,146member
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     Even Apple who has never passed a courtroom they didn't like has sued on only a very tiny number of the thousands they control. Does that make all the others worthless?

     

    You say that, but both Nokia and Motorola sued Apple first. The only real fight Apple picked was with Samsung and HTC. 

  • Reply 53 of 83
    tbelltbell Posts: 3,146member
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    Originally Posted by youclay View Post



    I think the $12 billion cost of purchasing Motorola was to protect Android from Motorola. So may be it was necessary (extortion).

    Yes, if Motorola started the Android vendor suing other Android vendors, that would have been a real problem for Google. 

  • Reply 54 of 83
    knowitallknowitall Posts: 1,648member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    Fallout from the NSA's spy campaign reveal will be handicapping a lot of US companies in overseas business deals. Cisco and Google won't be the only ones. I suspect there may be quite of lot of economic harm due to what the NSA has been doing.
    ....

    Your right, look what happened to JSF in Brazil they bought Saab Gripen instead and as a bonus ordered Ariane Space to launch a communication satellite also build in Europe instead of a US equivalent...
  • Reply 55 of 83
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Who used Android before the purchase…

    HTC, SonyEricsson, Samsung and others, Motorola used the threat of suing in the biggest sucker play in history, TWELVE POINT FIVE BILLION DOLLARS,
  • Reply 56 of 83
    fracfrac Posts: 480member
    youclay wrote: »
    I think the $12 billion cost of purchasing Motorola was to protect Android from Motorola. So may be it was necessary (extortion).
    Hmm...I do recall stories about Motorola threatening to sue other Android manufacturers for IP infringement and that that was one of the reasons Google bought Moto. I also remember it being said that the threat was sufficiently strong enough to drive up the purchase price.
    We'll never know short of some autobiography disclosures when those NDAs expire.:smokey:
  • Reply 57 of 83
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,728member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    You must have missed the past half dozen times I've answered similar queries here. Nope, no connection to Google at all. Not even a share of stock. Now a question for you. What anti-Apple comments from me can you point to?

    On the contrary I have a lot of respect for and interest in Apple. Perhaps you're mistaking my not joining in on "fun with FUD" as dissing Apple's success. Unlike a few I don't think its necessary to make stuff up in the mistaken belief it makes Apple look better. Those that do so are selling them short IMO.

    Perhaps 'anti-Apple' would be too simplistic of a term, sorry i used that. A better explanation of my original intent wold be to say, it is the 100% track record (or very close thereto), of very articulately, waving the pro Google banner at any ringside fight Apple and Google are involved in. I am happy to take you at your word regarding the zero connection to Google, sorry i missed any previous replies you have made on that subject. I would add Google would be extremely wise to contact you regarding a position in their PR department, that said so should Apple, and turn you ... ;)
  • Reply 58 of 83
    One of these days, you'll probably get pushed sufficiently enough into the corner and....

    That said, you still have not responded to my bewilderment at your massive swipe at Apple about '....courtooms they did not like....'.

    Care to elaborate, or are you being coy? Or perhaps just avoiding the question?

    Gatorguy threw out a bate comment just to see who would bite. From there he could dodge questions very easily. He and Constable Odo have had much practice with hitting nerves. Let this one as, "Oh, it is Gatorguy trolling again." As for Odo, you can 100% be assured any comment he makes will include a ding at Tim Cook.

    On another note, it looks like AI has made changes to the Web site that have decreased Safari crashes. Congratulations!
  • Reply 59 of 83
    muppetrymuppetry Posts: 3,331member
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    Originally Posted by leavingthebigG View Post

     
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post



    One of these days, you'll probably get pushed sufficiently enough into the corner and....



    That said, you still have not responded to my bewilderment at your massive swipe at Apple about '....courtooms they did not like....'.



    Care to elaborate, or are you being coy? Or perhaps just avoiding the question?




    Gatorguy threw out a bate comment just to see who would bite. From there he could dodge questions very easily. He and Constable Odo have had much practice with hitting nerves. Let this one as, "Oh, it is Gatorguy trolling again." As for Odo, you can 100% be assured any comment he makes will include a ding at Tim Cook.



    On another note, it looks like AI has made changes to the Web site that have decreased Safari crashes. Congratulations!

     

    I'm pretty certain that Odo is a Poe.

  • Reply 60 of 83
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,926member
    Gatorguy threw out a bate comment just to see who would bite. From there he could dodge questions very easily. He and Constable Odo have had much practice with hitting nerves. Let this one as, "Oh, it is Gatorguy trolling again." As for Odo, you can 100% be assured any comment he makes will include a ding at Tim Cook.

    On another note, it looks like AI has made changes to the Web site that have decreased Safari crashes. Congratulations!

    We all know Googleguy will defend Google. I don't have a problem with that. Odo, otoh, is worth blocking.
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