Judge finds Samsung to infringe Apple patent, invalidates Samsung patent in second California trial

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  • Reply 21 of 33
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    d4njvrzf wrote: »
    From playing with an android device I've noticed that their "autocorrect" interface seems to go further than merely suggesting one replacement for a misspelled word; it actually tries to predict what word it thinks you'll type next before you actually start typing. For example, after I type "Harry" the keyboard lists "Potter" as one of the three suggestions. Or after entering "Affordable c", it offers to complete "c" to "Care" (with a capital C). Does the autocorrect patent specify what the algorithm is used to provide the suggested replacements, or does it lay claim to all possible algorithms?

    What does it suggest if you type "Android users are a bunch of " .... ?
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  • Reply 22 of 33
    I have posted this several times on AI. In pre-trial motions over the past year leading up to this case Apple has been doing very well while Samsung is the opposite.

    This is just yet another to add the the growing pile of decisions in Apple's favor.
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  • Reply 23 of 33
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    Originally Posted by Frac View Post



    This is a saga, not an anecdote and we've reached...what?...page 5 of 350.

    Maybe, but, overall, it's not looking good for Samsung, wouldn't you say?

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  • Reply 24 of 33
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    Originally Posted by digitalclips View Post





    What does it suggest if you type "Android users are a bunch of " .... ?

    I just tried this. Here are the word completions it suggested as I typed.

     

    "us" -> "users", "us", "is"

    "a" ->  "are", "and", "a"

    "bu" -> "bunch", "bug"

    (after selecting "bunch") -> "of", "and", "more"

    (right after selecting "of") -> "the", "this, "a"

     

    Interestingly the keyboard didn't suggest "Android" until I had entered "Androi"

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  • Reply 25 of 33
    MacPromacpro Posts: 19,873member
    d4njvrzf wrote: »
    I just tried this. Here are the word completions it suggested as I typed.

    "us" -> "users", "us", "is"
    "a" ->  "are", "and", "a"
    "bu" -> "bunch", "bug"
    (after selecting "bunch") -> "of", "and", "more"
    (right after selecting "of") -> "the", "this, "a"

    Interestingly the keyboard didn't suggest "Android" until I had entered "Androi"

    Well thanks for trying ... I'll ask Siri her suggestions ... :D
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  • Reply 26 of 33
    rob53rob53 Posts: 3,383member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ClemyNX View Post



    So many people happy. I'm happy too. But how legitimate are the opinions of people who used to doubt the judgment of Koh in the first place?

    Judge Koh was trying to be fair the first time but leaned over backwards in her support for Samsung. After Samsung lawyers distributed confidential information and didn't think anything of it, Koh got really upset (you know the other word, pi**ed) and now I see her opening her eyes to the kind of company Samsung really is. The gloves are off and this time she's not going to take anything from Samsung. That's why people are celebrating.

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  • Reply 27 of 33
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,928member
    Sammy, stop stealing. Give up already.
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  • Reply 28 of 33
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post





    Seems an odd link for you image



    How's that? :smokey: 

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  • Reply 29 of 33
    dasanman69dasanman69 Posts: 13,002member
    jungmark wrote: »
    Sammy, stop stealing. Give up already.

    This is more Google's doing than Samsung's. Especially since the example given was the Galaxy Nexus which did not include Touch Wiz nor any modifications to the OS by Samsung. It's going to be interesting to see what the end result will be.
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  • Reply 30 of 33
    droidftwdroidftw Posts: 1,009member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Cintos View Post



    Samsung's Definition of Innovation: Buy a Patent.



    Reverse troll?

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  • Reply 31 of 33
    I looked through the patent and to me it seems overly broad. It covers every possible variation of user interaction with a keyboard and autocorrect as long as the keys are pressed and a word is suggested. It's not limited at all to the way Apple implements auto correct in iOS. It seems too broad to even allow predictive word suggestion, which isn't covered in the patent.

    The only method of autocorrect that seems to get around this is the swipe functionality built into the current Google keyboard, where the user doesn't have to make a second gesture (hitting the space bar or selecting the suggested word) for the correction to be used in the sentence.
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  • Reply 32 of 33
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rob53 View Post

     

    Judge Koh was trying to be fair the first time but leaned over backwards in her support for Samsung. After Samsung lawyers distributed confidential information and didn't think anything of it, Koh got really upset (you know the other word, pi**ed) and now I see her opening her eyes to the kind of company Samsung really is. The gloves are off and this time she's not going to take anything from Samsung. That's why people are celebrating.


    That's his point.  When Koh supports Samsung, people say she's "leaning over backwards  in her support for Samsung."  When she rules against them she's now instead being fair and "not leaning over backwards in her support" for Apple.

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  • Reply 33 of 33
    cykzcykz Posts: 81member
    rob53 wrote: »
    Judge Koh was trying to be fair the first time but leaned over backwards in her support for Samsung. After Samsung lawyers distributed confidential information and didn't think anything of it, Koh got really upset (you know the other word, pi**ed) and now I see her opening her eyes to the kind of company Samsung really is. The gloves are off and this time she's not going to take anything from Samsung. That's why people are celebrating.

    I follow the same reasoning. And since when are having doubts a mischief?
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