Samsung widens lead in worldwide smartphone marketshare, smaller OEMs rising

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  • Reply 21 of 80
    As always no mention of Apple profit margins and Samsung's always no profit phone salea
  • Reply 22 of 80
    arlorarlor Posts: 531member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by castcore View Post



    As always no mention of Apple profit margins and Samsung's always no profit phone salea

     

    Uh, the story's about market share. AI runs plenty of stories about relative profits, including today.

  • Reply 23 of 80
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    arlor wrote: »
    That logic only goes so far. If Samsung consistently shipped more than it sold, its financials would suffer. Samsung's not a money-laundering operation; they have to report to their investors. 

    Good point.

    Samsung has never been caught being dishonest.

    Ever.
  • Reply 24 of 80
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    arlor wrote: »
    Uh, the story's about market share.

    And guess what reality's about?
  • Reply 25 of 80
    gtrgtr Posts: 3,231member
    just_me wrote: »
    DOOOOOMED

    Fixed that for you.

    ;)
  • Reply 26 of 80
    jm6032jm6032 Posts: 147member
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    Originally Posted by AppleFanatic View Post

     

    Wow! 86 million smartphones buried in the desert during 2013 (or Strategy Analytics are just paid shills)...

     

    Where are all these Samesung smartphones? I literally have never seen anybody use a Samscum phone...


    Actually, I have seen a few. Remember, they look a lot like iPhones, so you kinda have to look close. But, I've seen far more iPhones than Galaxy phones...

  • Reply 27 of 80
    512ke512ke Posts: 782member
    Marketshare, marketshare, marketshare.
  • Reply 28 of 80

    Analysts; market share > money

    World; Analysts < bag of hammers

  • Reply 29 of 80
    I agree this is a crappy headline. Should read something more like "Samsung marketing analytics firm pulls numbers from thin air to dampen Apple's record iPhone growth".

    At least mention somewhere in the article that Samsung has not once confirmed these numbers.
  • Reply 30 of 80
    Say it with me everybody, shipped ? sold!
  • Reply 31 of 80
    robogobo wrote: »
    Say it with me everybody, shipped ? sold!

    Say it with me. Apple reports shipped numbers like the rest as well. Enough of this nonsense.
  • Reply 32 of 80
    realisticrealistic Posts: 1,154member
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    Originally Posted by zerobim08 View Post





    Say it with me. Apple reports shipped numbers like the rest as well. Enough of this nonsense.

    Get your facts straight don't make them. The real story is that, as in today's quarterly earning conference, Apple reports the number sold and their inventory level every quarter. When Samsung reports numbers, it always just units shipped, not units sold.

  • Reply 33 of 80
    zerobim08 wrote: »
    Say it with me. Apple reports shipped numbers like the rest as well. Enough of this nonsense.

    You're an idiot You're mistaken, not that Apple doesn't report units shipped but that they do in fact report sales. This is why these bullshit reports are always skewed. Not that it matters in the race to the bottom.
  • Reply 34 of 80
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member

    So if Samsung sold so many handsets, where is the money?

     

    Soft sales of their high end LARGE SCREEN phones easily outsold by 51 million iPhones indicate that screen size is irrelevant, the most popular highest selling phones have "small" screens.

     

    Of 86 million phones, Samsung reported 9 million were Galaxy S4's, they didn't even report Note 3 sales as they were probably less, the majority of Samsung's sales were low powered tiny handsets with low resolution screens smaller than iPhone screens.

     

    Samsung is following the same path Nokia followed, down into irrelevance.

  • Reply 35 of 80
    irelandireland Posts: 17,794member
    rogifan wrote: »
    When did Samsung say they shipped 86 million smartphones last quarter? I'm sorry but that number is so bogus it isn't even funny. If Samsung really shipped that many phones how is it that their profits came nowhere near Apple's &13B.

    Because lots of those phones are cheap junk, and shipping them adds up to high unit sales eventually.
  • Reply 36 of 80
    irelandireland Posts: 17,794member
    jm6032 wrote: »
    Actually, I have seen a few. Remember, they look a lot like iPhones, so you kinda have to look close. But, I've seen far more iPhones than Galaxy phones...

    You live in America: population 300M. Now multiply that number by 23.3 and you get the world population. There's another 95.7% of the world out there, most of which can afford a Samesong phone over an iPhone. The numbers are right. And a good reason why they probably are right is that iPhones last longer.
  • Reply 37 of 80
    irelandireland Posts: 17,794member
    hill60 wrote: »
    So if Samsung sold so many handsets, where is the money?

    Are you saying you don't believe that number?

    It's a bit like being the busiest restaurant in town. It doesn't mean you're the most profitable. You can be sure if Gordon Ramsay opened shop in your town and made the launch week entirely free to dine there you can only imagine how busy the restaurant would be. But a lot of money would be lost in the process. Like the way selling the most of anything doesn't make you the most profitable in your market segment. One of the exceptions probably being Coca Cola. But then, in their case there product doesn't cost any less than the competition. Once again in the phone space the company with the highest margin will make the most profit. And as usual we know who that company is. I'll be interested to see Apple's lineup this year.
  • Reply 38 of 80

    Oh, they SHIPPED that many but how many did they SELL??????

  • Reply 39 of 80
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    ireland wrote: »
    Because lots of those phones are cheap junk, and shipping them adds up to high unit sales eventually.
    Then how in the world are they considered smartphones?
  • Reply 40 of 80
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    robogobo wrote: »
    Say it with me everybody, shipped ? sold!
    No, but if you're not selling what you are shipping eventually it's going to impact the bottom line.

    That said, where does Strategy Analytics get their figures from?
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