Samsung argues Apple injunction bid meant to 'create fear and uncertainty' for carriers, retailers

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  • Reply 61 of 80

    Korea "loves" Apple (I should say "loves to imitate") ... including North Korea !

     

    http://www.northkoreatech.org/2014/01/31/north-koreas-red-star-os-goes-mac/

  • Reply 62 of 80

    But this was easy to predict :

     

     

  • Reply 63 of 80
    ronmgronmg Posts: 163member

    Maybe a little harsh, but essentially correct.

    Apple is clearly the "whitest" company with the lowest percentage of non-whites, non-foreigners in their design and managements staffs.

    Indeed, those who can't innovate, litigate.

    Where's your proof? Idiotic comment when you have NO idea. Look at the patent filings from Apple and you can see the names of the engineers involved. Look at the diversity. But I'm sure you've made your ignorant mind up already. Sad that haters are so blind.
  • Reply 64 of 80
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    Originally Posted by AppleSauce007 View Post

     

     

    Samsung is toast and they know it.

    Samsung will soon be copying and fighting the smaller Asian device makers for scrap.

    As shameless a copycat as Samsung is, it is becoming more difficult for them to copy Apple's latest innovations.  (They keep trying)

    Many of Apple's new innovations are broad and large scale and highly technical in software and hardware.  Samsung can not keep up.

    Samsung must still be held responsible for damages caused by violating Apple's IP and copying.

     

    An injunction on their infringing devices may finally make Samsung stop their copycat practices.  


    And then what? Apple are in a pretty unpleasant position here : Samsung's control of the lower-end phones gives them a strong footing and lets them grow mindshare, and over time Samsung have started to cannibalize Apple's sales with higher-quality devices (the people that could only just afford an iPhone can now opt for a cheaper Samsung device). It's incredibly unfair if Samsung slavishly copy Apple, but ultimately there isn't much Apple can do about it - just look at how long all these court cases take to get anywhere and how ineffective the results are.

     

    Unless Apple takes the fight to Samsung with cheaper devices, they're stuck defending their share of premium smartphone sales in an increasingly competitive environment. It's called "disruptive innovation" - there's a great article on it here:

     

    http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/05/14/120514fa_fact_macfarquhar

     

    Quote:


     In industry after industry, Christensen discovered, the new technologies that had brought the big, established companies to their knees weren’t better or more advanced—they were actually worse. The new products were low-end, dumb, shoddy, and in almost every way inferior. But the new products were usually cheaper and easier to use, and so people or companies who were not rich or sophisticated enough for the old ones started buying the new ones, and there were so many more of the regular people than there were of the rich, sophisticated people that the companies making the new products prospered. 


    Gee, I wonder which company's products that sounds like...

     

    There's a lengthier piece about it at http://www.princetongrowth.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Christensen-interview.RTM_.pdf . Page 5 is particularly interesting - it discusses how Intel brought out the Celeron processor range simply to defend against low-margin competitors and were all the stronger for it in the end. They saw the move into the low-end market not as a way to make money, but as a way to protect their existing incomes and cripple rivals. 

     

    On an unrelated note, the title of this article is actually quite interesting. I wonder what the secondary effects on carriers and retailers of a ban is?

  • Reply 65 of 80

    GTR, that was awesome! I did not realize the headphones and Maps annotations had been copied until now. Thanks!!

  • Reply 66 of 80
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,926member
    It's pretty pathetic for a troll to reply to its original post with another account. Does Sammy pay per post per account?
  • Reply 67 of 80
    "Samsung on Thursday argued against an Apple-sought permanent injunction, saying such an order could have long-lasting repercussions for the Korean tech giant. "

    Well, they should have thought of that before they used their inside knowledge of being a supplier to Apple to copy their customer's patented intellectual property!

    Samsung are completely in the wrong here, but they are cynically playing the system and spending huge amounts on PR and marketing, attacks on the impartiality of judges, and misleading and often completely misleading press statements to make Apple look like the bad guy through persistent badmouthing in social media and elsewhere.

    The individuals behind this persistent undermining of the rights of the inventor and of creative people generally clearly have some serious psychological personal issues to deal with.

    The law applies to everybody - Samsung included.
  • Reply 68 of 80
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
    [QUOTE]... and you must be an Amerikkkan dumbass[/QUOTE].
    Why is this an acceptable comment here?
  • Reply 69 of 80
    The judge already ruled against the injunction. This is an appeal. This is how ScamScum operates. Rather than pay for engineers to innovate, they just copy and pay for lawyers instead. They know that it takes years of litigation, and know that in all likelihood, the penalties plus the legal fees will be dwarfed by the profits. And in many cases, there will be no penalty, but just a slap on the wrist. By the time a case is closed, the product will be obsolete, and an injunction against it will be meaningless. They laugh at our inability to defend intellectual property, laughing all the way to the bank. They do it in every sector of their business. People support this behavior by buying their products are dupes.
  • Reply 70 of 80
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    ds423ce wrote: »
    No, the general idea is that Apple must be shielded from competition, especially foreign competition.

     
    But why even have these laughable kangaroo court cases? 

    It is a forgone conclusion that all US kangaroo courts will do as Apple demands.

    And if a judge has the audacity to rule against the patent trolling fruit company, Obama will quickly come to the rescue. 
    Stealing IP is not healthy competition. Samsung fans seem to think it is????
  • Reply 71 of 80
    chris_ca wrote: »
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    Why is this an acceptable comment here?

    Don't respond to trolls, flag and report them immediately.
  • Reply 72 of 80
    chris_cachris_ca Posts: 2,543member
    Don't respond to trolls, flag and report them immediately.
    I did report that post but seems it's acceptable to the mods.
  • Reply 73 of 80
    Originally Posted by Chris_CA View Post

    I did report that post but seems it's acceptable to the mods.



    It’s basically just Marvin around these days. Melgross and mkrishnan pop up occasionally.

  • Reply 74 of 80
    jd_in_sbjd_in_sb Posts: 1,600member
    Samsung murdered its parents and is now complaining about being an orphan.
  • Reply 75 of 80
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,357member

    It’s basically just Marvin around these days. Melgross and mkrishnan pop up occasionally.

    Mel sure was active yesterday tho.
  • Reply 76 of 80
    Originally Posted by jd_in_sb View Post

    Samsung murdered its parents and is now complaining about being an orphan.



    Rather, it’s now complaining that no one wants it to become Batman.

  • Reply 77 of 80
    "Samsung admits to understanding the purpose of injunctions." wtf?
  • Reply 78 of 80
    Pawn shop: we realized these are stolen stuffs, but an injunction against selling them would create fear and uncertainty. All the pawn shop will have to be out of business.
  • Reply 79 of 80

    "Samsung on Thursday argued against an Apple-sought permanent injunction, saying such an order could have long-lasting repercussions for the Korean tech giant."

     

    Oh please go ahead & grant it. It's about time someone made an example out of them, to teach them & others a lesson they will not forget, ever.

     

    Samsung should be reduced to being a bit part player, in that they are only allowed to supply parts for others, & not compete in these electronics markets. It seems time & again they have been untrustworthy, stealing others IP & parts technologies etc, when manufacturing parts on behalf of others, then using this gained knowledge to gain unfair advantages in those electronics markets. Let alone the outright copying of designs & styling.

     


    If you can't do the time, don't commit the crime. As they say.

     

    It would also benefit the other, more decent & honest manufacturers, a chance of regaining their market share & profits. This should also benefit for consumers too, resulting in a more vibrant varied range of products from different manufacturers again, as things used to be.

  • Reply 80 of 80
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by TogetherWeStand View Post

     

    "Samsung on Thursday argued against an Apple-sought permanent injunction, saying such an order could have long-lasting repercussions for the Korean tech giant."

     

    Oh please go ahead & grant it. It's about time someone made an example out of them, to teach them & others a lesson they will not forget, ever.

     

    Samsung should be reduced to being a bit part player, in that they are only allowed to supply parts for others, & not compete in these electronics markets. It seems time & again they have been untrustworthy, stealing others IP & parts technologies etc, when manufacturing parts on behalf of others, then using this gained knowledge to gain unfair advantages in those electronics markets. Let alone the outright copying of designs & styling.

     


    If you can't do the time, don't commit the crime. As they say.

     

    It would also benefit the other, more decent & honest manufacturers, a chance of regaining their market share & profits. This should also benefit for consumers too, resulting in a more vibrant varied range of products from different manufacturers again, as things used to be.


     

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