The Installer, their last great camera was the Nikon CoolPix 990. All of their recent consumer cameras have been rather disappointing in almost every respect.
1) They produce noisy photos
2) They feel cheaper...more plastic, less metal.
3) It's not that Nikon sucks; The competition is just better.
<strong>the sony dsc-s75 is the best camera. i researched it for so long i was going to go blind from reading.</strong><hr></blockquote>Interesting what you are saying, mac's girl.
I have a feeling the SONY is sort of being overlooked by many people - including myself - but having just had a good long read on the Digital Photography Review site (WHAT A COOL SITE THAT IS, you can spend days reading there), I must say it does look *very* impressive indeed. I am now trying to decide between the S75 and the S85 model.
The Sony DCS-S85 and S75 are very good cameras indeed (I recommended the S75 in my first post.) They are competitively priced and have top notch image quality. They also produce vivid colors (too vivid for some,) but I generally like over-saturated tones vs under-saturated ones. You can always tone them down in Photoshop.
The only real problem with these two cams is MemoryStick, and that really isn't that big a problem at all.
<strong>The Installer, their last great camera was the Nikon CoolPix 990. All of their... <snip></strong><hr></blockquote>Thanks for that, Eugene.
<strong>Memory Sticks used to be expensive, but aren't any more, not even in Europe.
In Tony Blair Land (the U.K.) cheapest price:
? S75 = £439
? S85 = £549
I think I would be inclined to go with the S85, if I had the extra cash. Extra cash = extra pixels.
- T.I.</strong><hr></blockquote>
only a .8 mp difference between the [sony dsc] s75 (3.3 mp) and the s85 (4.1 mp). i like the silver s75 rather than the black s85. other than that, the features are identical.
p.s. i've seen 128mb lexar memory sticks go for as little as $54 on e-cost. i only have the sony branded ones, so i dont know how good the lexar ones are. anyone ever try them?
only a .8 mp difference between the [sony dsc] s75 (3.3 mp) and the s85 (4.1 mp). i like the silver s75 rather than the black s85. other than that, the features are identical.</strong><hr></blockquote>Except for the improved (now extremely good!) battery performance, and that it does 3 frames at 3 fps against 2 on the Continuous Drive setting. Oh, and you get a bigger M/S., which is no big deal really.
dpreview.com suggest that the S-85 has slightly less color saturation, which would suit me.
On reflection I'd say the S-75 does represents better value for money.
I have now dropped the Coolpix from my list, and will most likely be getting the S-85. More pixels is bit like more memory, buy as much as you can afford. Also I prefer the black.
- T.I.
[edit: done it, I have now ordered the S-85, thanks everyone.]
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I'd have to put in another voice in favour of the G2. It's a great camera! The best I've ever owned. I love the rotating LCD for hard angle shots. It does good Macro and the digital zoom is not bad either.
<strong>I'd have to put in another voice in favour of the G2. It's a great camera! The best I've ever owned. I love the rotating LCD for hard angle shots. It does good Macro and the digital zoom is not bad either.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I use a G1 camera since 18 months and that's a great camera.
excellent resolution
wonderfull electrical autonomy : more than one hundred pictures with the flash, in fact i charge the battery only one to two times per months and i use it very often at my office.
great look and i agree that the rotational screen is fine and better than the one of the nikon coolpix. I use to have before a nikon coolpix 990: the pictures where great at his time, but the battery where out after 10 to 20 pictures with the flash : very bad for a professional use.
I am still using argentic camera for preoperative procedure, but i think that in the future i will go exclusively in numeric world.I think i will buy next year the canon D60 in order to use the lenses of my canon eos 10.
<strong>I'd have to put in another voice in favour of the G2. It's a great camera! The best I've ever owned. I love the rotating LCD for hard angle shots. It does good Macro and the digital zoom is not bad either.</strong><hr></blockquote>I had been looking at the G2 too, but it was the RAW format that made me decide against it, plus the better battery life of the SONY. I do like the swivel screen though and the fact that you get a remote control.
If one could only take the features one likes from every camera and combine them . . . Ah well . . .
<strong>Except for the improved (now extremely good!) battery performance, and that it does 3 frames at 3 fps against 2 on the Continuous Drive setting. Oh, and you get a bigger M/S., which is no big deal really.
dpreview.com suggest that the S-85 has slightly less color saturation, which would suit me.
On reflection I'd say the S-75 does represents better value for money.
I have now dropped the Coolpix from my list, and will most likely be getting the S-85. More pixels is bit like more memory, buy as much as you can afford. Also I prefer the black.
- T.I.
[edit: done it, I have now ordered the S-85, thanks everyone.]
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congrats on your decision and good luck with it. the battery life was always great IMO on the s75, and i never had any complaints about it. let me know how it is on the s85. im sure you wont ever need to buy a spare.
its funny that you like the black and i like the silver. were we arguing this over in the brushed metal post too? maybe it's a girl thing, cuz Mr. Mac likes the black color better also, but i'm the one who picked out the camera. also, i got it right when it first came out, so there was no s85 at the time. but i never regretted buying the s75, not for a minute.
congrats on your decision and good luck with it. the battery life was always great IMO on the s75, and i never had any complaints about it. let me know how it is on the s85. im sure you wont ever need to buy a spare.<hr></blockquote>The battery life on the S-85 is even better than on the S-75! [quote]its funny that you like the black and i like the silver. were we arguing this over in the brushed metal post too? <hr></blockquote>I never saw that one. [quote]maybe it's a girl thing, cuz Mr. Mac likes the black color better also<hr></blockquote>Shame there is a Mr. Mac. I already saw us walking into the sunset with our contrasting cameras hanging around or necks [quote]have fun with your camera when it comes!!!!<hr></blockquote>Thanks. I'll let you know.
<strong>I had been looking at the G2 too, but it was the RAW format that made me decide against it, plus the better battery life of the SONY. I do like the swivel screen though and the fact that you get a remote control.
If one could only take the features one likes from every camera and combine them . . . Ah well . . .
- T.I.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I don't know for the G2 but the battery life of the G1 is excellent.
and i find personnaly that the quality of the image is excellent and not very noisy unless very poor light conditions. One of the advantage of the G1 or G2 is his lens which has a very good aperture .
<strong>I had been looking at the G2 too, but it was the RAW format that made me decide against it
- T.I.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What about the RAW format do you not like?
You don't like uncompressed images? That's all that the RAW format is,and you can select varying degrees of jpeg compression if that's what you want. Also, the G2 is known for excellent image quality, so unless you're trying to shoot in low light situations, you shouldn't be getting noisy images.
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1) They produce noisy photos
2) They feel cheaper...more plastic, less metal.
3) It's not that Nikon sucks; The competition is just better.
<strong>the sony dsc-s75 is the best camera. i researched it for so long i was going to go blind from reading.</strong><hr></blockquote>Interesting what you are saying, mac's girl.
I have a feeling the SONY is sort of being overlooked by many people - including myself - but having just had a good long read on the Digital Photography Review site (WHAT A COOL SITE THAT IS, you can spend days reading there), I must say it does look *very* impressive indeed. I am now trying to decide between the S75 and the S85 model.
The only real problem with these two cams is MemoryStick, and that really isn't that big a problem at all.
The S75 is $470 at B&H
The S85 is now $650.
<a href="http://www.bhphotovideo.com/"; target="_blank">http://www.bhphotovideo.com/</a>;
<strong>The Installer, their last great camera was the Nikon CoolPix 990. All of their... <snip></strong><hr></blockquote>Thanks for that, Eugene.
- T.I.
<strong>The only real problem with these two cams is MemoryStick, and that really isn't that big a problem at all.
The S75 is $470 at B&H
The S85 is now $650.</strong><hr></blockquote>Memory Sticks used to be expensive, but aren't any more, not even in Europe.
In Tony Blair Land (the U.K.) cheapest price:
? S75 = £439
? S85 = £549
I think I would be inclined to go with the S85, if I had the extra cash. Extra cash = extra pixels.
- T.I.
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<strong>Memory Sticks used to be expensive, but aren't any more, not even in Europe.
In Tony Blair Land (the U.K.) cheapest price:
? S75 = £439
? S85 = £549
I think I would be inclined to go with the S85, if I had the extra cash. Extra cash = extra pixels.
- T.I.</strong><hr></blockquote>
only a .8 mp difference between the [sony dsc] s75 (3.3 mp) and the s85 (4.1 mp). i like the silver s75 rather than the black s85. other than that, the features are identical.
p.s. i've seen 128mb lexar memory sticks go for as little as $54 on e-cost. i only have the sony branded ones, so i dont know how good the lexar ones are. anyone ever try them?
The cheapest for me was $69 from TigerDirect, which I just purchased from recently. (no complaints)
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only a .8 mp difference between the [sony dsc] s75 (3.3 mp) and the s85 (4.1 mp). i like the silver s75 rather than the black s85. other than that, the features are identical.</strong><hr></blockquote>Except for the improved (now extremely good!) battery performance, and that it does 3 frames at 3 fps against 2 on the Continuous Drive setting. Oh, and you get a bigger M/S., which is no big deal really.
dpreview.com suggest that the S-85 has slightly less color saturation, which would suit me.
On reflection I'd say the S-75 does represents better value for money.
I have now dropped the Coolpix from my list, and will most likely be getting the S-85. More pixels is bit like more memory, buy as much as you can afford. Also I prefer the black.
- T.I.
[edit: done it, I have now ordered the S-85, thanks everyone.]
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<strong>I'd have to put in another voice in favour of the G2. It's a great camera! The best I've ever owned. I love the rotating LCD for hard angle shots. It does good Macro and the digital zoom is not bad either.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I use a G1 camera since 18 months and that's a great camera.
excellent resolution
wonderfull electrical autonomy : more than one hundred pictures with the flash, in fact i charge the battery only one to two times per months and i use it very often at my office.
great look and i agree that the rotational screen is fine and better than the one of the nikon coolpix. I use to have before a nikon coolpix 990: the pictures where great at his time, but the battery where out after 10 to 20 pictures with the flash : very bad for a professional use.
I am still using argentic camera for preoperative procedure, but i think that in the future i will go exclusively in numeric world.I think i will buy next year the canon D60 in order to use the lenses of my canon eos 10.
<strong>I'd have to put in another voice in favour of the G2. It's a great camera! The best I've ever owned. I love the rotating LCD for hard angle shots. It does good Macro and the digital zoom is not bad either.</strong><hr></blockquote>I had been looking at the G2 too, but it was the RAW format that made me decide against it, plus the better battery life of the SONY. I do like the swivel screen though and the fact that you get a remote control.
If one could only take the features one likes from every camera and combine them . . . Ah well . . .
- T.I.
<strong>Except for the improved (now extremely good!) battery performance, and that it does 3 frames at 3 fps against 2 on the Continuous Drive setting. Oh, and you get a bigger M/S., which is no big deal really.
dpreview.com suggest that the S-85 has slightly less color saturation, which would suit me.
On reflection I'd say the S-75 does represents better value for money.
I have now dropped the Coolpix from my list, and will most likely be getting the S-85. More pixels is bit like more memory, buy as much as you can afford. Also I prefer the black.
- T.I.
[edit: done it, I have now ordered the S-85, thanks everyone.]
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congrats on your decision and good luck with it. the battery life was always great IMO on the s75, and i never had any complaints about it. let me know how it is on the s85. im sure you wont ever need to buy a spare.
its funny that you like the black and i like the silver. were we arguing this over in the brushed metal post too?
have fun with your camera when it comes!!!!
congrats on your decision and good luck with it. the battery life was always great IMO on the s75, and i never had any complaints about it. let me know how it is on the s85. im sure you wont ever need to buy a spare.<hr></blockquote>The battery life on the S-85 is even better than on the S-75! [quote]its funny that you like the black and i like the silver. were we arguing this over in the brushed metal post too?
- T.I.
<strong>I had been looking at the G2 too, but it was the RAW format that made me decide against it, plus the better battery life of the SONY. I do like the swivel screen though and the fact that you get a remote control.
If one could only take the features one likes from every camera and combine them . . . Ah well . . .
- T.I.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I don't know for the G2 but the battery life of the G1 is excellent.
and i find personnaly that the quality of the image is excellent and not very noisy unless very poor light conditions. One of the advantage of the G1 or G2 is his lens which has a very good aperture .
<strong>I had been looking at the G2 too, but it was the RAW format that made me decide against it
- T.I.</strong><hr></blockquote>
What about the RAW format do you not like?
You don't like uncompressed images? That's all that the RAW format is,and you can select varying degrees of jpeg compression if that's what you want. Also, the G2 is known for excellent image quality, so unless you're trying to shoot in low light situations, you shouldn't be getting noisy images.
<strong>What about the RAW format do you not like?
</strong><hr></blockquote>Ironically enough, I have now changed my order to a G2.
- T.I.
S85 > Canon PowerShot G2 in pure image quality.
<strong>hey what happened to walking into the sunset with our contrasting cameras around our necks???? you cant switch your order!!
Due to his high rank the installer have the power to edit his order. In a way TI is a sort of aristocrat