This looks really promising. I hope the rumors of Ford ditching Microsoft turn out to be true. Although Ford Sync has become much better, Apple's offering looks a hundred times better.
I agree. I have a couple Lincolns and iOS would be great vs sync. Only bad thing is I'll have to wait 4-5 years as I only buy 2-3 year old used cars.
I still think apple is missing the boat here though by not offering their own setup/head units where they have complete control over all hardware and software. It also allows it to be easily user upgradable to get annual or every two year refresh cycles.
Do you actually think car companies will allow third party automatic driver functions to take over their cars? Hell no!
Who will be responsible when the system fails and causes an accident?
Are you aware of Google's driverless car project or the many states that have already laws on the books allowing these vehicles on the road for testing?
Do you actually think car companies will allow third party automatic driver functions to take over their cars? Hell no!
Who will be responsible when the system fails and causes an accident?
Car companies? Don't you mean local governments? Why the hell would car companies care if you installed a 3rd party automatic driver into the car that you now own? If it's the aftermarket system that failed, the responsibility seems clear although they will no doubt be sold with a use at your own risk liability waiver that transfers the responsibility onto the vehicle operator.
But in any case - it won't be the vehicle manufacturers that object to a 3rd party system although they probably won't offer it as a factory option for exactly those liability issues.
System failures will also be extremely rare because of multiple, redundant failsafe systems which disable the auto-drive functionality safely when the first sign of a problem is detected.
I really wonder about that. Apple seems to be lagging there. While Google buys robot manufacturers, and has a lot of publicity witheir driverless cars, Apple does noting public,
Because its completely ridiculous, implausible, and otherwise f'ing stupid. Hence why Google is all over.
Looks nice. I wonder how the system will work with non Apple smartphones. This seems an area where car manufacturers would want to offer some usability to other platforms.
I really like the sound of this feature, but until it becomes more widely available I'll continue using "Harken For iPhone" in the car. It's much easier to use than Apple's music player (bigger text, large buttons/touch areas). There's also "Harken" on the iPad but I need a new cradle for my iPad so I can't use it at the moment.
Looks nice. I wonder how the system will work with non Apple smartphones. This seems an area where car manufacturers would want to offer some usability to other platforms.
The same way. Android et al. just have to make their own system that can be sent to the in-car system.
It's funny how our $200 phone determines what $20 000 car we drive, the power marketing. On a different note I wonder if Apple will open this to Kenwood, Alpine, Sony for the aftermarket ice segment?
I really wonder about that. Apple seems to be lagging there. While Google buys robot manufacturers, and has a lot of publicity witheir driverless cars, Apple does noting public, and we don't see any purchases that would show them leaning in that direction. As we know from other articles point out that Apple has made purchases that we don't know about, except for the number.
And Cook just recently said that their saphirre plant was, at least partly, going to be used for a secret project, though that may be the watch.
But any purchases they may have made that we don't know about are likely very small companies that as a result of their size, and apparent invisibility, we won't know about unless Apple decides to have a product that they announce uses their technology.
I imagine that Apple must be working on better AI than Siri, which isn't much more today than it was when it first came out, and languished for two years as a beta product. I keep hoping that they've got something that they're working on that is a killer AI. But with no evidence to support that hope, I'm stymied as to what they may be doing, and my contacts there haven't said anything at all to me about anything in that area, for some time now.
AI is the future of computer control, whether it's voice control, gestures, some combo of the two, or something else altogether, possibly including eye control. If Apple want to lead, they have little choice but to investigate this at a high level. I hope they are.
Last year's purchase of the personal assistant company named Cue gives Apple an entry into AI. Here is a link to an article covering Apple's purchase... http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/10/03/rumor-apple-may-have-acquired-personal-assistant-app-cue-for-at-least-35m. It looks like Apple was able to Cue functionality into CarPlay to provide a compelling solution for getting drivers where they want to go by accessing Contacts, Calendar, Reminders and email. Passbook could be added as well. Apple has been pretty good with asking permission to access customer data and being transparent about how it is using the customer data so, I am thinking it will continue being good about that.
Do you need to have an iPhone to use this Car Play system?
Part of me wonders, is this is going in the right direction? The current direction seems more like one screen that does everything rather than adding another touchscreen. If there was a way to simply stick your phone into the dash and let it take over the music, maps, etc, that would satisfy the needs. Apple probably sees the opportunity of getting inside a potential customer's car, and getting them into the ecosystem. I don't like the direction this could go - what if Android starts getting into cars? Then I'll be stuck with an Android car? I'd hate to make my car decision based off of the OS in the dash.
Touch is not a good interface for a vehicle in motion...I've had a few cars with it, and at 60 miles an hour, its not ideal. Controllers like BMW's iDrive or Mercedes Command, while seemingly old school, are safer as you can comfortably rest your arm and wrist on the console, and deliver controlled movements to the interface. you spend more time looking at a touch screen to be sure you're pressing the right area than you do with a hard controller. In face, certain common actions are done by sense memory with the controller, further minimizing distraction.
Because its completely ridiculous, implausible, and otherwise f'ing stupid. Hence why Google is all over.
ok Mr. Stuck in the Stoneage. I guess you boycott all planes with autopilot as well? Only fly the tried n' true prop planes? Self-driving cars will cut down on a lot of traffic congestion and make the roads a lot safer. It will take some time, probably more than 10 years, but it will happen. Google's done some really good work in this space. I wish they had some competition, but I'm also not sure it makes sense for Apple to get involved. I like CarPlay though. That'll become a nice standard really quick.
Do you need to have an iPhone to use this Car Play system?
Part of me wonders, is this is going in the right direction? The current direction seems more like one screen that does everything rather than adding another touchscreen. If there was a way to simply stick your phone into the dash and let it take over the music, maps, etc, that would satisfy the needs. Apple probably sees the opportunity of getting inside a potential customer's car, and getting them into the ecosystem. I don't like the direction this could go - what if Android starts getting into cars? Then I'll be stuck with an Android car? I'd hate to make my car decision based off of the OS in the dash.
Android is already going into Audis in the (near?) future, and I assume the rest of the VW family brands will also receive Android later. I'm not sure whether that will sit well with at least part of the Audi and Porsche crowd...
Android is already going into Audis in the (near?) future, and I assume the rest of the VW family brands will also receive Android later. I'm not sure whether that will sit well with at least part of the Audi and Porsche crowd...
Yes, but this misses the point. I currently and a VW driver, but would never use an Android phone. I want iOS integration. How will vendors like VW, and Volvo deal with other phone platforms? I do not want Android on my dash, when I am using iOS on my phone.
Yes, but this misses the point. I currently and a VW driver, but would never use an Android phone. I want iOS integration. How will vendors like VW, and Volvo deal with other phone platforms? I do not want Android on my dash, when I am using iOS on my phone.
I'm in the same boat.
That said, there is a serious risk involved also for car makers when they tie themselves to one or the other platform. I cannot for the life of me imagine that Porsche will use only Android in the car in the future. It could turn out to be a colossal mistake.
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Does it fit my 2008 C70 or is it only available for new models?
I agree. I have a couple Lincolns and iOS would be great vs sync. Only bad thing is I'll have to wait 4-5 years as I only buy 2-3 year old used cars.
I still think apple is missing the boat here though by not offering their own setup/head units where they have complete control over all hardware and software. It also allows it to be easily user upgradable to get annual or every two year refresh cycles.
Are you aware of Google's driverless car project or the many states that have already laws on the books allowing these vehicles on the road for testing?
You must bring VW to the fold, YOU MUST... Aaaargh!!
Car companies? Don't you mean local governments? Why the hell would car companies care if you installed a 3rd party automatic driver into the car that you now own? If it's the aftermarket system that failed, the responsibility seems clear although they will no doubt be sold with a use at your own risk liability waiver that transfers the responsibility onto the vehicle operator.
But in any case - it won't be the vehicle manufacturers that object to a 3rd party system although they probably won't offer it as a factory option for exactly those liability issues.
System failures will also be extremely rare because of multiple, redundant failsafe systems which disable the auto-drive functionality safely when the first sign of a problem is detected.
I think it's reasonable to assume all of the major car makers will offer automatic driver functions in ten years,
I think its reasonable to assume that there is no chance of that happening whatsoever.
I really wonder about that. Apple seems to be lagging there. While Google buys robot manufacturers, and has a lot of publicity witheir driverless cars, Apple does noting public,
Because its completely ridiculous, implausible, and otherwise f'ing stupid. Hence why Google is all over.
The same way. Android et al. just have to make their own system that can be sent to the in-car system.
I really wonder about that. Apple seems to be lagging there. While Google buys robot manufacturers, and has a lot of publicity witheir driverless cars, Apple does noting public, and we don't see any purchases that would show them leaning in that direction. As we know from other articles point out that Apple has made purchases that we don't know about, except for the number.
And Cook just recently said that their saphirre plant was, at least partly, going to be used for a secret project, though that may be the watch.
But any purchases they may have made that we don't know about are likely very small companies that as a result of their size, and apparent invisibility, we won't know about unless Apple decides to have a product that they announce uses their technology.
I imagine that Apple must be working on better AI than Siri, which isn't much more today than it was when it first came out, and languished for two years as a beta product. I keep hoping that they've got something that they're working on that is a killer AI. But with no evidence to support that hope, I'm stymied as to what they may be doing, and my contacts there haven't said anything at all to me about anything in that area, for some time now.
AI is the future of computer control, whether it's voice control, gestures, some combo of the two, or something else altogether, possibly including eye control. If Apple want to lead, they have little choice but to investigate this at a high level. I hope they are.
Last year's purchase of the personal assistant company named Cue gives Apple an entry into AI. Here is a link to an article covering Apple's purchase... http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/10/03/rumor-apple-may-have-acquired-personal-assistant-app-cue-for-at-least-35m. It looks like Apple was able to Cue functionality into CarPlay to provide a compelling solution for getting drivers where they want to go by accessing Contacts, Calendar, Reminders and email. Passbook could be added as well. Apple has been pretty good with asking permission to access customer data and being transparent about how it is using the customer data so, I am thinking it will continue being good about that.
Part of me wonders, is this is going in the right direction? The current direction seems more like one screen that does everything rather than adding another touchscreen. If there was a way to simply stick your phone into the dash and let it take over the music, maps, etc, that would satisfy the needs. Apple probably sees the opportunity of getting inside a potential customer's car, and getting them into the ecosystem. I don't like the direction this could go - what if Android starts getting into cars? Then I'll be stuck with an Android car? I'd hate to make my car decision based off of the OS in the dash.
Because its completely ridiculous, implausible, and otherwise f'ing stupid. Hence why Google is all over.
Do you need to have an iPhone to use this Car Play system?
Part of me wonders, is this is going in the right direction? The current direction seems more like one screen that does everything rather than adding another touchscreen. If there was a way to simply stick your phone into the dash and let it take over the music, maps, etc, that would satisfy the needs. Apple probably sees the opportunity of getting inside a potential customer's car, and getting them into the ecosystem. I don't like the direction this could go - what if Android starts getting into cars? Then I'll be stuck with an Android car? I'd hate to make my car decision based off of the OS in the dash.
Android is already going into Audis in the (near?) future, and I assume the rest of the VW family brands will also receive Android later. I'm not sure whether that will sit well with at least part of the Audi and Porsche crowd...
Android is already going into Audis in the (near?) future, and I assume the rest of the VW family brands will also receive Android later. I'm not sure whether that will sit well with at least part of the Audi and Porsche crowd...
Yes, but this misses the point. I currently and a VW driver, but would never use an Android phone. I want iOS integration. How will vendors like VW, and Volvo deal with other phone platforms? I do not want Android on my dash, when I am using iOS on my phone.
Yes, but this misses the point. I currently and a VW driver, but would never use an Android phone. I want iOS integration. How will vendors like VW, and Volvo deal with other phone platforms? I do not want Android on my dash, when I am using iOS on my phone.
I'm in the same boat.
That said, there is a serious risk involved also for car makers when they tie themselves to one or the other platform. I cannot for the life of me imagine that Porsche will use only Android in the car in the future. It could turn out to be a colossal mistake.
Perhaps this is too obvious and stupid a question, but where are 'regular' and satellite radios?