Apple denied renewed motion for permanent injunction against Samsung

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  • Reply 21 of 39
    phalanxphalanx Posts: 109member

    Patents should be done away with, especially for large companies.  It was meant to protect small individuals and businesses that need the patent to survive.  All it does for large companies is employ lawyers.   Large companies should just keep innovating.  If someone can make what you make cheaper or better, you need to innovate in another direction.   Apple has smart people.   They should be able to move faster than any "copier".   All the patent crap does for the consumer is raise our prices.   Companies pay a lot for litigation, and by the time anything is decided,  the products in question, are obsolete.   

  • Reply 23 of 39
    jungmarkjungmark Posts: 6,926member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    When something is plagiarized an exact copy is made, word for word, letter for letter. There's zero difference. Samsung didn't make an exact copy, while from afar some of the devices looked the same, there were discernable differences upon closer inspection. A smartphone is very complex and consists of many parts both hardware and software wise, but a article or essay/research paper are much simpler.

    Actually plagiarism is not just a word for word copy. People can't escape it if they use synonyms for some words but use the exact structure/language of a sentence/paragraph/thought.
  • Reply 24 of 39
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member
    Originally Posted by sdevnuru

    [idiocy]

     

    Go have an orgy with your Samsung products.

  • Reply 25 of 39
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dasanman69 View Post





    You obviously don't know much either, everything you listed cannot be patented. Touchscreen smartphones existed before the iPhone, they sucked but that's besides the point. Samsung's mistake was following Apple's designs too closely, and though it's gotten them into legal trouble it has also made them a lot of money.

     

    iPhone was the first MULTITOUCH smartphone.

     

    Anything involving more than one touch is what Apple pioneered.

     

    So sick of this lame attempt at justification.

     

    iPhone was not the Prada.

  • Reply 26 of 39
    darklitedarklite Posts: 229member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post





    And several AI members say since Koh has Korean family she favors Samsung and is biased against Apple. It's a quandary isn't it?

    It's almost as though she judges things on a case-by-case basis. 

  • Reply 27 of 39
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by phalanx View Post

     

    Patents should be done away with, especially for large companies.  It was meant to protect small individuals and businesses that need the patent to survive.  All it does for large companies is employ lawyers.   Large companies should just keep innovating.  If someone can make what you make cheaper or better, you need to innovate in another direction.   Apple has smart people.   They should be able to move faster than any "copier".   All the patent crap does for the consumer is raise our prices.   Companies pay a lot for litigation, and by the time anything is decided,  the products in question, are obsolete.   


     

    Should they also sack all the researchers and engineers who come up with the patents, seeing as how they would no longer be needed under your scenario?

     

    Do Universities come under your large companies category?

     

    All the researchers and engineers should stay at University and donate their work for the good of mankind.

     

    Is that what you are getting at?

     

    So who's going to pay for this?

  • Reply 28 of 39
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DarkLite View Post

     

    It's almost as though she judges things on a case-by-case basis. 


     

    It's almost as though she confuses standard essential patents with standard patents.

  • Reply 29 of 39
    lantznlantzn Posts: 240member
    gatorguy wrote: »
    And several AI members say since Koh has Korean family she favors Samsung and is biased against Apple. It's a quandary isn't it?

    I remember reading that Koh has even been used by Samsung for some service which I can't remember exactly what for. But it did sound suspicious.
  • Reply 30 of 39

    Samsung before - looks like a coworkers old Blackberry.

    Samsung after - looks like an iPhone.

    Samsung Galaxy tablet = inspired by the iPad.

    Pictures don't lie - aren't bias.

    What has Samsung done that is original?

  • Reply 31 of 39
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    hill60 wrote: »
    iPhone was the first MULTITOUCH smartphone.

    Anything involving more than one touch is what Apple pioneered.

    So sick of this lame attempt at justification.

    iPhone was not the Prada.

    Yup, Apple's iPhone was the first commercially successful multi-touch device. ArsTechnica had a great article several months back that discussed some of those same points. You should read it if you haven't already. It' includes some great background.
    http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2012/02/if-android-is-a-stolen-product-then-so-was-the-iphone/
  • Reply 32 of 39
    phalanx wrote: »
    Patents should be done away with, especially for large companies.  It was meant to protect small individuals and businesses that need the patent to survive.  All it does for large companies is employ lawyers.   Large companies should just keep innovating.  If someone can make what you make cheaper or better, you need to innovate in another direction.   Apple has smart people.   They should be able to move faster than any "copier".   All the patent crap does for the consumer is raise our prices.   Companies pay a lot for litigation, and by the time anything is decided,  the products in question, are obsolete.   

    Patently wrong.
  • Reply 33 of 39
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    lantzn wrote: »
    I remember reading that Koh has even been used by Samsung for some service which I can't remember exactly what for. But it did sound suspicious.

    You may have read about a British judge that did some work for the attorneys representing Samsung. I believe you've confused Sir Jacob for Ms.Koh. They're quite different in more ways than one. :D
  • Reply 34 of 39

    We always knew Apple was pushing shit uphill with a toothpick on this. Apple needs to either get in the game or get out of the way, they are slowing everyone else down!

  • Reply 35 of 39
    dxqnxcvq wrote: »
    We always knew Apple was pushing shit uphill with a toothpick on this. Apple needs to either get in the game or get out of the way, they are slowing everyone else down!

    Crawl back to the dung hill whence you came.
  • Reply 36 of 39
    AppleInsider must have "story templates" in order to crank this stuff out. There's a numbing sameness to these articles. They could post a story about Jony Ive having a ham and Swiss sandwich for lunch, and padding it with the history of ham and Swiss sandwiches, Samsung's lunch before and after Jony ordered his sandwich, and commentary from Florian Muller about the sandwich toppings. The author must get paid by the word. :)
  • Reply 37 of 39
    cykzcykz Posts: 81member
    dasanman69 wrote: »
    You obviously don't know much either, everything you listed cannot be patented. Touchscreen smartphones existed before the iPhone, they sucked but that's besides the point. Samsung's mistake was following Apple's designs too closely, and though it's gotten them into legal trouble it has also made them a lot of money.

    I guess you are right. I seem to confuse a work of art in which existing technologies are put together brilliantly with a printed copy which always looks the same but can never be the original. Your eye is on the money and your mind is on strategy.
  • Reply 38 of 39
    gatorguygatorguy Posts: 24,213member
    Worth noting that Samsung has already filed their expected appeal, just one day after Judge Koh finalized the trial results. Educated guesses are that the appeal will lead to [B]yet another re-trial[/B] due to patent validity issues, particularly the '915 pinch-to-zoom, combined with a jury form choice that Apple had insisted on over Samsung objections. A rare instance where they probably should have listened to Samsung.
  • Reply 39 of 39
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    phalanx wrote: »
    Patents should be done away with, especially for large companies.  It was meant to protect small individuals and businesses that need the patent to survive.  All it does for large companies is employ lawyers.   Large companies should just keep innovating.  If someone can make what you make cheaper or better, you need to innovate in another direction.   Apple has smart people.   They should be able to move faster than any "copier".   All the patent crap does for the consumer is raise our prices.   Companies pay a lot for litigation, and by the time anything is decided,  the products in question, are obsolete.   

    Hogwash. Patents are property and property protections extend to every business and individual in the US under the Constitution.
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