Review: DJI Phantom 2 Vision, a high-end iPhone-compatible flying camera drone

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  • Reply 41 of 62

    DJI is very slick with marketing.  There should be some fine print saying that results may vary depending on equipment used and skill.  While I know the Niagara Fall shots were with a Phantom, much of that footage was shot with their much more expensive high-end copters with professional video crews.

  • Reply 42 of 62
    thepixeldocthepixeldoc Posts: 2,257member
    mstone wrote: »
    Reading more about the Adobe lens distortion correction plugin, I'm not so sure I like the P2 Vision camera since the lens correction only applies to Raw files, apparently not to video, That fish eye lens is really distorted. I suppose it depends on the aperture/ FOV settings and all, but I'm thinking more towards the GoPro version instead.
    I noticed that too.

    You could compensate by adding a gimbal -- but that would increase weight, battery and cost.

    You can mitigate the problem by post processing the video.

    Here's a short comparison showing a quick and dirty image stabilization with Final Cut Pro X. The areas under the bridge and the arch shows the difference best:


    [VIDEO]


    You can do a lot finer stabilization by spending a little time with the various settings.

    FCPX can compensate for low light and punch up the video too!,


    Edit: Oops, Sorry -- I originally posted this to YT as private ... OK, now!

    Just wanted to say that I find this post here at AI rather ironic, that I just got finished watching on my sub channel on YT a different guy giving tips with the DJI 2 and GP Hero 3.



    Note: really cool guy called Mic Bergsma who I've followed for some time now. He's a professional wake boarder, film auteur and GoPro specialist... all while being deaf! Inspiring to say the least... Oh yeah... and a Mac/FCPX user too... :smokey:
  • Reply 43 of 62
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    [/VIDEO]

    Tha was one hell of a FCPX project you did there! Props to you!
    I want one!

    The folks saying the video is jerky ... That's the rookie pilot. :D

    I live near a lake with hundreds of large gators, I'd love to video there.

    I am sooooo looking forward to your video! Videos!
  • Reply 44 of 62
    mstone wrote: »
    Reading more about the Adobe lens distortion correction plugin, I'm not so sure I like the P2 Vision camera since the lens correction only applies to Raw files, apparently not to video, That fish eye lens is really distorted. I suppose it depends on the aperture/ FOV settings and all, but I'm thinking more towards the GoPro version instead.
    I noticed that too.

    You could compensate by adding a gimbal -- but that would increase weight, battery and cost.

    You can mitigate the problem by post processing the video.

    Here's a short comparison showing a quick and dirty image stabilization with Final Cut Pro X. The areas under the bridge and the arch shows the difference best:

    video

    You can do a lot finer stabilization by spending a little time with the various settings.

    FCPX can compensate for low light and punch up the video too!,

    Just wanted to say that I find this post here at AI rather ironic, that I just got finished watching on my sub channel on YT a different guy giving tips with the DJI 2 and GP Hero 3.



    Note: really cool guy called Mic Bergsma who I've followed for some time now. He's a professional wake boarder, film auteur and GoPro specialist... all while being deaf! Inspiring to say the least... Oh yeah... and a Mac/FCPX user too... :smokey:

    Yeah, that's quite a video! All I saw was some FCP7 editing to manually transform [enlarge] and crop the video to get rid of the propellers, etc. IDK if he did any stabilization.

    When you do stabilization, it automatically transforms and crops, as needed, to minimize shake.
  • Reply 45 of 62
    Sounds quite noisy. Why isn't this mentioned?
    Also, can the green and red lights be turned off? (Think: stealth operation).
    It would be nice for a drone to use sonar techniques. Then it could also fly itself without bumping into anything.
  • Reply 46 of 62
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by nhughes View Post

     
    While I prefer the GoPro's quality, I really enjoyed the ability to view footage live with the Vision camera via the Wi-Fi range extender. This wouldn't be possible (as far as I know, at least) when using a GoPro, which has short range connectivity with the iPhone.


     

    As it turns out, it is not possible to use the GoPro's WiFi preview at all because it interferes with the controls for the aircraft. To see what the camera is seeing the way one can with the Vision requires additional equipment and a dedicated video monitor.

  • Reply 47 of 62
    philboogiephilboogie Posts: 7,675member
    Dupe
  • Reply 48 of 62
    thepixeldocthepixeldoc Posts: 2,257member
    Yeah, that's quite a video! All I saw was some FCP7 editing to manually transform [enlarge] and crop the video to get rid of the propellers, etc. IDK if he did any stabilization.

    When you do stabilization, it automatically transforms and crops, as needed, to minimize shake.

    That's true. However as with anything pixel-based, it's always better to try and get the absolute best quality out of your equipment first... then tweak to your heart's content later with software.

    I was only pointing that he's an FCP and Mac user in general. He has some interesting ideas, tips and solutions to getting the most out of a GoPro.

    Not like I have to tell you that. Just letting you know what I know, and others mit consider before going the "post production" route to clean up what could have been done easier with a little more knowledge of the equipment at "take" time... :)
  • Reply 49 of 62
    Yeah, that's quite a video! All I saw was some FCP7 editing to manually transform [enlarge] and crop the video to get rid of the propellers, etc. IDK if he did any stabilization.

    When you do stabilization, it automatically transforms and crops, as needed, to minimize shake.

    That's true. However as with anything pixel-based, it's always better to try and get the absolute best quality out of your equipment first... then tweak to your heart's content later with software.

    I was only pointing that he's an FCP and Mac user in general. He has some interesting ideas, tips and solutions to getting the most out of a GoPro.

    Not like I have to tell you that. Just letting you know what I know, and others mit consider before going the "post production" route to clean up what could have been done easier with a little more knowledge of the equipment at "take" time... :)

    Exactly!  Something about a "making a silk purse ..."

    I misspoke ... FCPX doesn't automatically transform and crop -- I did that manually by scaling the video 143.1% to insure that the edges stayed within the frame.

    Here's the clip without any scaling -- it really shows how stabilization compensated for the jerky camera movement:


    [VIDEO]
  • Reply 50 of 62
    thepixeldocthepixeldoc Posts: 2,257member
    Exactly!  Something about a "making a silk purse ..."

    I misspoke ... FCPX doesn't automatically transform and crop -- I did that manually by scaling the video 143.1% to insure that the edges stayed within the frame.

    Here's the clip without any scaling -- it really shows how stabilization compensated for the jerky camera movement:


    [VIDEO]

    Woah! Not bad! In a pinch a good way to save a "shake-n-bake" session.
  • Reply 51 of 62
    SOT:

    Not really related to the DJI, but this shows a OIS video chip that is rumored to be in the next iPhone:


    [QUOTE]Late last week, shares of InvenSense rose on rumors that the company had won a contract to supply sensors for Apple's upcoming iPhone 6. InvenSense supplies sensors such as accelerometers and gyroscopes to major phone manufacturers, but the company has yet to publicly land a deal with Apple. The validity of the rumor seems up for debate, however, as a Needham & Company analyst soon released a note saying that he "did not get the impression" from InvenSense's CEO and CFO that such an agreement was in place. Of course, that information would be under a strict non-disclosure agreement with Apple, severely limiting what InvenSense executives could tell the analyst.

    Regardless, The Motley Fool speculates on what InvenSense could bring to Apple. While InvenSense could offer drop-in replacements for the current gyroscope and accelerometer sensors in the iPhone, the company also provides Optical Image Stabilization (OIS) technology for mobile phones:
    Quote:
    There's one additional socket that InvenSense could win on the iPhone -- an OIS gyroscope. The burgeoning technology is used to improve smartphone camera's by stabilizing the image using a gyroscope. Samsung neglected to use the technology in the Galaxy S5, but Apple may decide to integrate it into the iPhone 6. If it does, InvenSense is a clear choice.


    [IMG ALT=""]http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/39931/width/500/height/1000[/IMG]

    Optical Image Stabilization remains relatively new in the smartphone market, and uses a motion-tracking system to compensate for device shakiness, allowing for sharper photos and video. This video demonstrates the product:[/QUOTE]
    [VIDEO]


    This link is from forumsdotmacrumorsdotcom:

    http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1717395
  • Reply 52 of 62
    paxmanpaxman Posts: 4,729member

    Looks like a fun 'toy' with clear but limited useful application for the average user. This drone thing will be the next GoPro craze. At least until reports of injuries such as children's fingers being cut off by the fierce and seemingly un-protected propellers. 

  • Reply 53 of 62
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Dick Applebaum View Post



    SOT:



    Not really related to the DJI, but this shows a OIS video chip that is rumored to be in the next iPhone:

     

    Deviating even further off topic, who wrote the piece you quoted? It's full of grammar and language errors.

     

    The democratization of publishing offered by the web has a downside: the absence of a skilled person to vet and edit copy before it goes to "print."

  • Reply 54 of 62
    SOT:


    Not really related to the DJI, but this shows a OIS video chip that is rumored to be in the next iPhone:

    Deviating even further off topic, who wrote the piece you quoted? It's full of grammar and language errors.

    The democratization of publishing offered by the web has a downside: the absence of a skilled person to vet and edit copy before it goes to "print."

    According to the websit, it was written by Arnold Kim -- the head honcho at MR.
  • Reply 55 of 62
    muppetrymuppetry Posts: 3,331member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by paxman View Post

     

    Looks like a fun 'toy' with clear but limited useful application for the average user. This drone thing will be the next GoPro craze. At least until reports of injuries such as children's fingers being cut off by the fierce and seemingly un-protected propellers. 


     

    I doubt that the "average user" has much use for this - it's just a very expensive RC helicopter unless you need its capabilities. But as a relatively long-range, long-linger, and autonomous (if necessary) aerial video, photography or surveillance platform, if that is what you need, it is quite powerful. It does have optional propeller guards.

  • Reply 56 of 62
    While that's true, Phantoms can fly autonomously via a first person view; but there's a limit on how far the drones can fly out of sight. I believe it's only a 1000 ft or so. You can read more about them here: http://bestquadcopterkits.com/dji-phantom-2-vision/
  • Reply 57 of 62
    roma80roma80 Posts: 1member

    Banggood.com  offers it for 1,059.99 $

  • Reply 58 of 62

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  • Reply 59 of 62

    I just bought mine and love it, the only problem with it is the batteries are so expensive at $160 a piece, you have to have several to use, I found the same compatible batteries with a little larger capacity at 5400mah and they seem to work really good plus longer flight time, they are only $72.99, yay so happy!!!, here is a link to the only website selling these; http://nukerc.com/phantom-2-clone-li-po-battery.html

  • Reply 60 of 62

    I have the DJI Phantom 2 Vision Plus.....will the iphone 6 Plus be compatible?

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