I don't think TC's comments are fair either, unless he goes home to a CRT TV that has knobs. TV nowadays is very different than it was 20, or even 10 years ago.
I see your point but I doubt he was referring to the TV monitor in his comment. The fact that these devices still have a tuner built in is archaic in and of itself. Having to change an input on the monitor to change how you access your content is absolutely ridiculous. It's similar to having a KVM switch which have always been a clunky solution. We need to make the "TV" just another dumb monitor or one just sophisticated enough to pass various types of data through it. SmartTVs are to advancing technology as Phrenology was to advancing science.
Quit quoting facts around here. No one here cares about facts. They just care that Apple doesn't release a TV so they can have a prideful sleep at night.
Lol, the only one prideful here is you trying to avoid admitting that your obnoxious predictions about an Apple HDTV was simply wrong.
That doesn't sound like Jobs to me. Someone is desperate to sell a book. Steve said himself, it's on video, that they talked about doing a TV at Apple but couldn't because there's no go-to-market strategy. I don't believe Jobs said this.
Which is what is reiterated here. They talked about it again and there's no business there. There is no margin and no turnover.
The AppleTV needs to replace the set top box. I don't think the cable companies would fight that as long as they can still charge their customers $75 plus per month in addition to the internet they also charge for. I don't think the cable companies care what the interface is.
What percentage of Apple's customer base access media from a TV tuner? I was a child (not even a teenager) the last time I tried using bunny ears to tune in a station over the airwaves. I think the only way for this to work is for Apple to find a way to work with cable and sat companies, which may not be dissimilar to Apple's CarPlay partnerships.
Have you ever used an eyeTV?
It is a pretty sweet technology. It has nothing to do with bunny ears unless you want it to. You hook up your cable or any NTSC video source to it and it plays TV on your Mac.
You may not have noticed but that statement confirms neither that Apple is working on either a hardware set or a set-top box, nor did I offer whatever I believed.
Should we make a space for you and Tyler Durden to get into a disagreement?
Wasn't Tyler a result from a subtle form of solipsism?
I've mentioned it before but I still think it would make sense for Apple to buy Elgato and incorporated the tuner into aTV. Perhaps an aTV could hook up to an HDTV or a Mac. The main issue with the current eyeTV is that many cable companies encrypt their HD content so if Apple were to buy it, they would still have to make deals with the cable companies. Having a real tuner does two things. One, they become the controlling UI with access to live channels and two, they become involved locally with the Emergency Alert System. If people come home from work and turn on the aTV as their primary access to local and streaming content that is basically controlling the living room. I really don't think the cables love the set top user interface they currently have and would embrace Apple's help in that area so long as they don't lose control of their content. Apple just needs to play nice, which sometimes proves difficult for them.
I'm not so sure that it is the cable companies that encrypt the HD content. I think it is in the PVR. I have searched high and low for a way to transfer content that I have recorded onto my PVR with no success. The only way I've found is to re-record the content using an eyetv. The cable companies don't want anyone saving HD content.
It is a pretty sweet technology. It has nothing to do with bunny ears unless you want it to. You hook up your cable or any video source to it and it plays TV on your Mac.
Mea culpa. I though aomeone I know used it to get HD OTA but I'll have to ask to verify.
Still, isn't it a TV tuner that connects to you Mac with a HW/SW solution? If so, is that the road we need to go down in an IP connected world? How could Apple use their technology to make life better?
The AppleTV needs to replace the set top box. I don't think the cable companies would fight that as long as they can still charge their customers $75 plus per month in addition to the internet they also charge for. I don't think the cable companies care what the interface is.
I'd be happy with an HDMI pass-through, like on the Xbox One. Something that could keep the "TV" on the same input as my primary source (cable) yet still allow me to access my AppleTV at any time without the annoyance it is now.
I see your point but I doubt he was referring to the TV monitor in his comment. The fact that these devices still have a tuner built in is archaic in and of itself. Having to change an input on the monitor to change how you access your content is absolutely ridiculous. It's similar to having a KVM switch which have always been a clunky solution. We need to make the "TV" just another dumb monitor or one just sophisticated enough to pass various types of data through it. SmartTVs are to advancing technology as Phrenology was to advancing science.
If people are 'cord cutting' than a built-in tuner is vital to watch OTA broadcasts which still provide the best HD picture. I do agree with the input switching issue, I can understand having multiple inputs but a TV should be smart enough to cycle through the ones being used and not all of them.
If people are 'cord cutting' than a built-in tuner is vital to watch OTA broadcasts which still provide the best HD picture. I do agree with the input switching issue, I can understand having multiple inputs but a TV should be smart enough to cycle through the ones being used and not all of them.
Do any TVs even allow you to manually "disable" an input so they won't show up in the list or rotation? None that own allow that, and they all seem to switch as slowly as digital cable/sat boxes switch a channels.
It's a good thing I didn't stick with my original draft: I like to molest small woodland animals.
I don't think that's a fair statement since we're talking about technology. Also, if you go back 2 billion years the Moon would have been about 50,000 miles closer than it is now bringing the gap from about 239,000 miles to 189,000 miles (assuming the 1.5" per year is a constant, which I doubt it is) which means it was much larger back then.
Where was the moon 200,000 trillion years ago? Were there any woodland animals?
I don't think TC's comments are fair either, unless he goes home to a CRT TV that has knobs. TV nowadays is very different than it was 20, or even 10 years ago.
Not for me it isn't. My only tv is a handsome CRT B&O from 1997. Still works fine, but I use my iMac now.
Because local is better. aTV cannot succeed ubtil they have live local news, JMO
How many of the younger generations are still getting the majority of their news from TV, not just local news. How many of them are getting it from local news? I don't think there are many, but I do agree that having a way to get local news as something I'd like to see. With legal requirements for OTA stations that will likely last for at least several decades I think a company like Google or Apple could use their position in the market to allow a device that will sense your IP address and then show you local channels over IP without any user setup.
Where was the moon 200,000 trillion years ago? Were there any woodland animals?
With an estimate of 13.5 billion years since the Big Bang and another 10 billion until it starts contracting again, that gives about a 50 billion year cycle so 200,000 trillion years ago would be at this same point 4 million universe cycles ago.
Unfortunately so, [@]Eluard[/@],
How many of the younger generations are still getting the majority of their news from TV, not just local news. How many of them are getting it from local news? I don't think there are many, but I do agree that having a way to get local news as something I'd like to see. With legal requirements for OTA stations that will likely last for at least several decades I think a company like Google or Apple could use their position in the market to allow a device that will sense your IP address and then show you local channels over IP without any user setup.
With an estimate of 13.5 billion years since the Big Bang and another 10 billion until it starts contracting again, that gives about a 50 billion year cycle so 200 trillion years ago would be at this same point in the universe 4 million cycles ago.
(That hurts my head)
Thanks; good to get some perspective on the matter.
In all fairness I did state "With an estimate of…" so I'm open to any scientific information that would refute that estimate, including estimates that the universe is only about 6,000 years old.
How many of the younger generations are still getting the majority of their news from TV, not just local news. How many of them are getting it from local news? I don't think there are many, but I do agree that having a way to get local news as something I'd like to see. With legal requirements for OTA stations that will likely last for at least several decades I think a company like Google or Apple could use their position in the market to allow a device that will sense your IP address and then show you local channels over IP without any user setup.
Ha! Funny thing about aged based surveys is that they often fail to calculate changing demographics. As people age they tend to become more locally focused, more conservative and less influenced by new technology. Local news on their TV is very important to many people. It is important to remember that baby-boomers are still in control because they have all the money.
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I see your point but I doubt he was referring to the TV monitor in his comment. The fact that these devices still have a tuner built in is archaic in and of itself. Having to change an input on the monitor to change how you access your content is absolutely ridiculous. It's similar to having a KVM switch which have always been a clunky solution. We need to make the "TV" just another dumb monitor or one just sophisticated enough to pass various types of data through it. SmartTVs are to advancing technology as Phrenology was to advancing science.
Lol, the only one prideful here is you trying to avoid admitting that your obnoxious predictions about an Apple HDTV was simply wrong.
Which is what is reiterated here. They talked about it again and there's no business there. There is no margin and no turnover.
Have you ever used an eyeTV?
It is a pretty sweet technology. It has nothing to do with bunny ears unless you want it to. You hook up your cable or any NTSC video source to it and it plays TV on your Mac.
Wasn't Tyler a result from a subtle form of solipsism?
I'm not so sure that it is the cable companies that encrypt the HD content. I think it is in the PVR. I have searched high and low for a way to transfer content that I have recorded onto my PVR with no success. The only way I've found is to re-record the content using an eyetv. The cable companies don't want anyone saving HD content.
Mea culpa. I though aomeone I know used it to get HD OTA but I'll have to ask to verify.
Still, isn't it a TV tuner that connects to you Mac with a HW/SW solution? If so, is that the road we need to go down in an IP connected world? How could Apple use their technology to make life better?
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I'd be happy with an HDMI pass-through, like on the Xbox One. Something that could keep the "TV" on the same input as my primary source (cable) yet still allow me to access my AppleTV at any time without the annoyance it is now.
If people are 'cord cutting' than a built-in tuner is vital to watch OTA broadcasts which still provide the best HD picture. I do agree with the input switching issue, I can understand having multiple inputs but a TV should be smart enough to cycle through the ones being used and not all of them.
Do any TVs even allow you to manually "disable" an input so they won't show up in the list or rotation? None that own allow that, and they all seem to switch as slowly as digital cable/sat boxes switch a channels.
If so, is that the road we need to go down in an IP connected world? How could Apple use their technology to make life better?
Because local is better. aTV cannot succeed ubtil they have live local news, JMO
What? Just saw your sig. Is Ragosta dead??
Where was the moon 200,000 trillion years ago? Were there any woodland animals?
Not for me it isn't. My only tv is a handsome CRT B&O from 1997. Still works fine, but I use my iMac now.
How many of the younger generations are still getting the majority of their news from TV, not just local news. How many of them are getting it from local news? I don't think there are many, but I do agree that having a way to get local news as something I'd like to see. With legal requirements for OTA stations that will likely last for at least several decades I think a company like Google or Apple could use their position in the market to allow a device that will sense your IP address and then show you local channels over IP without any user setup.
With an estimate of 13.5 billion years since the Big Bang and another 10 billion until it starts contracting again, that gives about a 50 billion year cycle so 200,000 trillion years ago would be at this same point 4 million universe cycles ago.
(That hurts my head)
Thanks; good to get some perspective on the matter.
Ah, you’re one of them, are you?
In all fairness I did state "With an estimate of…" so I'm open to any scientific information that would refute that estimate, including estimates that the universe is only about 6,000 years old.
How many of the younger generations are still getting the majority of their news from TV, not just local news. How many of them are getting it from local news? I don't think there are many, but I do agree that having a way to get local news as something I'd like to see. With legal requirements for OTA stations that will likely last for at least several decades I think a company like Google or Apple could use their position in the market to allow a device that will sense your IP address and then show you local channels over IP without any user setup.
Ha! Funny thing about aged based surveys is that they often fail to calculate changing demographics. As people age they tend to become more locally focused, more conservative and less influenced by new technology. Local news on their TV is very important to many people. It is important to remember that baby-boomers are still in control because they have all the money.