my crystal ball....

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
iBook:

The iBook will get updated in late may, early June. Processor speed will jump to a 700Mhz G3 across the board. A 100Mhz system bus will also become standard. The video memory will get bumped to 16MB, although the type of card that will be used is unknown. Note: This will be the last revision before the iBook moves over to a G4 sometime in Q1 of 2003.



PowerBook G4:

Nothing major is in store for the TiBook for the rest of the year. Except a small speed bump in mid fall. 800Mhz and 1Ghz G4's will be powering the next revision. As usual, they will have 256k of L2 and 1MB of L3. Although, the L3 cache could jump to 2MB using a new G4 chip.



PowerMac G4:

The PowerMac will undergo a major overhaul this summer. Apple is furiously working on a new motherboard in hopes that Motorola can deliver its 7470 G4 in time this summer. Meanwhile, Motorola is furiously working on the 7470/7460 versions of the G4.

Here is a brief run down of what might come this summer:



7470 G4 (1.0Ghz, 1.13Ghz, 1.26Ghz)

512k L2 cache

4MB DDR L3 cache

266Mhz DDR RAM bus (supporting up to 2GB)

ATA-100 support

4X AGP





iMac G4:

The next revision to the iMac will come in late summer or early fall. The speed of the top model will move up to 1Ghz while the low end comes in at 800Mhz. (7455 G4 most likely) Both will sport 256k of on chip L2 cache. The iMac will move to a 133Mhz system bus. 4X AGP might come with this revision, but will likely come in the revision after. People might say that a 1Ghz iMac would cannibalize PowerMac sales. Apple would disagree citing the many system advantages on a PowerMac over an iMac. (ATA-100, DDR-RAM, L3 Cache, etc)



Xserve:

This new bad boy will get updated regularly along side or slightly after Tower revisions.



iMac G3:

After the iMac G4 gets its speed bump we will see the very quiet reintroduction of the 700Mhz G3 iMac from last year. 600Mhz and 700Mhz G3's will then power the CRT gumdrop.



Notice that three of the four products here now have 1Ghz G4's powering them. Hint: it's not by accident





as always: all of the above is pure speculation, any relation to future product revisions is pure coincidence. This message has been brought to you by the letters: U, R, and Q. And the Numbers 4, 9, and 2.



edit: spelling



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  • Reply 1 of 64
    phrogmanphrogman Posts: 21member
    The 1, 1.3 and 1.26 ghz scenario is the ONLY realistic prediction I have seen. Those who think we will see a 1.4 ghz g4/g5 processor this summer are insane.
  • Reply 2 of 64
    cdhostagecdhostage Posts: 1,038member
    Reasonable. Reasonable. Ezcscpert that Ttbooks need to be faster megahertz than iBooks. Stupid Apple! Megahertz myth is the explanantion!



    PBook max 1 GHz G4

    iBook max 1 GHz G3
  • Reply 3 of 64
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,438member
    Sounds good to me...sure I'd like more speed but get OSX running good on the current hardware and it should be great on the new stuff coming. I'm sure there will be a couple of goodies on the new towers that no one is thinking of.
  • Reply 4 of 64
    brunobruinbrunobruin Posts: 552member
    All very reasonable. I'm afraid those expecting a G4 iBook next week and 1.6Ghz towers this summer are going to be disappointed. We'll be lucky if 1Ghz is the low end and we don't instead get 933/1/1.13.



    If Apple can get the 7470 into the towers this summer and start it at 1GHz, I agree the iMac can safely go to 1GHz on the top as well a few months later.
  • Reply 5 of 64
    bradbowerbradbower Posts: 1,068member
    Your update times are right, specs probable, but I completely disagree that Apple will keep the CRT/G3 iMac around in the consumer sector. It can't possibly be profitable or worthwhile for resellers.
  • Reply 6 of 64
    mandricardmandricard Posts: 486member
    [quote]Originally posted by PowerPC:

    Notice that three of the four products here now have 1Ghz G4's powering them. Hint: it's not by accident <hr></blockquote>



    Would this perhaps be the old "Gigahertz coming out party?" Why would it not be

    "by accident?"



    Puzzled.



    Mandricard

    AppleOutsider



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  • Reply 7 of 64
    powerpcpowerpc Posts: 109member
    A few more things:



    The iMac G3:



    Yes, this product will be around for a little while longer. It is a key product in the sub-1,000 market. (remember, Apple sold 125,000 CRT iMac's last quarter) This product is still a money maker for the company. Little to no R&D is needed and all have been manufactured before, so there is little setup/building costs. This little gumdrop will be around until Apple can offer a competitively priced LCD iMac, which doesn't appear to be anytime soon.

    Note: If it is around long enough, this might be the only computer that uses the "Saraha" G3 chip from IBM.



    PowerBook G4: The Superdrive Question...

    Those expecting the Superdrive to make it into the TiBook this year will be disappointed. Fear not though, Apple WILL be the first to put one in a laptop. It is one of the top priorities for the TiBook engineering team at Apple right now. MacWorld Tokoyo is a probable release date.



    as always: all of the above is pure speculation, any relation to future product revisions is pure coincidence. This message has been brought to you by the letters T, I, and H. And the numbers 7, 2, and 1.



    edit: spelling



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  • Reply 8 of 64
    xypexype Posts: 672member
    [quote]Originally posted by PowerPC:

    <strong>A few more things:</strong><hr></blockquote>



    How about the pricing? Will it stay the same? I can imagine that for certain components Apple might find suppliers that are cheaper. Any news on the LCD screens?
  • Reply 9 of 64
    powerpcpowerpc Posts: 109member
    Prices:

    Along with new towers will come a new price tag. A brand new logic board and CPU architecture means lots of R&D money to make up for. Expect prices on towers to go North before they go South. Prices on all other products will most likely remain the same.



    AppleWorks 7:

    After much anticipation, AppleWorks 7 will be released sometime later this year. In a bid to get even more people to switch over to OS X, AppleWorks 7 will most likely be OS X only. Hot cocoa anyone? AppleWorks 6 will get one last small revision for users of OS 8-9.





    as always: all of the above is pure speculation, any relation to future product revisions is pure coincidence. This message has been brought to you by the letters U, P, and J. And the numbers 6, 3, and 4.
  • Reply 10 of 64
    jerombajeromba Posts: 357member
    I hope for Apple that there is a plan B. Because if Mot can't deliver this summer, I don't really know what Apple can annonce at MWNY.

    I think that the 7470 is plan B and that plan A is a G5 (or 7500 hopefully).

    If we have a G4 at max 1.13 Ghz, i'll be very disappointed and i'm sure i will not be alone. DDR or not. The best situation will be a mix between the two:

    Dual G4 @ 1.0 GHz (FSB & SDRAM 133)- G5 @ 1.13 Ghz - G5 @ 1.2 Ghz (FSB 500 & DDR 333)



    Maybe this is crazy... but they are the crazy one
  • Reply 11 of 64
    g-newsg-news Posts: 1,107member
    Forget the CRT iMac...this product is going to be replaced by the eMac within the next 6 months.



    And that is educated speculation.



    G-News
  • Reply 12 of 64
    addisonaddison Posts: 1,185member
    The Register says that LCD prices are expected to fall by upto 40% in the next year.
  • Reply 13 of 64
    satchmosatchmo Posts: 2,699member
    What did Bambi's mother say?

    "If you have nothing good to say, don't say it at all."



    If Apple can only muster a 1.13 GHz chip , I think they wouldn't announce one at all. They would be the laughing stock of MWNY if all they went from was 1 Ghz to 1.13.

    That's why I would suspect something faster, perhaps 1.4 GHz?
  • Reply 14 of 64
    g-newsg-news Posts: 1,107member
    Or something later...Seybold for example.

    They could still update the iBooks and the iMacs and let the PowerMacs fall even more behind.



    I think we'll see a 2GHz G5 announced at MWNY...shipping in 2005.







    G-news
  • Reply 15 of 64
    nostradamusnostradamus Posts: 397member
    If it's 1.26GHz on the top, then it's goodbye Apple for me. Asserting that 1.26GHz is disappointing is an understatement.
  • Reply 16 of 64
    hookhook Posts: 42member
    Everything seems to point to Apple trying to make an especially big splash at MWNY. Seems like there is a strong possiblity that the Towers will undergo a transformation. I would guess that the worst case scenario is that apple redesigns the tower - trying to do something groundbreaking like the imac design. The goal should be to introduce a revolutionary tower design (Bluetooth?) with a revolutionary G5. However, if that's not possible then the chip revolution won't be as ambitious. DDR & whatever else they can get in there to cover up the fact that the G5 isn't ready



    They're are either going to do something big for the apple tech community & the design industry, or they're just going to play it safe and try to blow away the design people.



    Any opinions on Bluetooth and other possible smokescreens?
  • Reply 17 of 64
    bodhibodhi Posts: 1,424member
    [quote]Originally posted by Nostradamus:

    <strong>If it's 1.26GHz on the top, then it's goodbye Apple for me. Asserting that 1.26GHz is disappointing is an understatement.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    WooHoo! <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
  • Reply 18 of 64
    addisonaddison Posts: 1,185member
    It's all very well harping on about processor speed, but really 10.2 offers us a huge boost without the need to update the hardware.



    As far as speed goes I am not sure why you are so desperate for much faster machines. I can do most of the things I want without any speed problems, I can only type so fast. Video rendering is the only area where a speed boost could make a significant impact, hoiwever I suspect that few of those complaining are doing that for a living on the Mac platform, there will be some.



    What is certain is that Apple is on a roll now, new products, upgrades, designs are all coming out thick and fast. Apple is extreemly aware of the processor speed gap and I have every confidence that this is their number one priority. We may not see this issue resolved by MWNY but it will be resolved. I see Steve Jobs as the Colin Chapman of computers, beating the opposition by design and inovation with few resources.



    I think we will eventuality see PowerMacs with:-



    Up to 4 x 120GB raid arrays ATA133



    DDR



    2GHZ + processor speeds



    Fully optomised OS and coco apps.



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  • Reply 19 of 64
    low-filow-fi Posts: 357member
    To the posters who think that we will have G5s this summer, think again. There is no way they are even going to make an appearance before the end of this year.
  • Reply 20 of 64
    jerombajeromba Posts: 357member
    i said that it would be a dream to have a G5...

    but it would be a nightmare to have only a G4 @ 1.26 Ghz max... my expectations are the following: Dual 1.4 Ghz - FSB & RAM DDR - ATA 100 or 133 - Faster SuperDrive. I'm not asking too much i think
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