<strong>I've heard 'the licensing reason' as well. Don't know for a fact how true it is though.
Didn't hear it from the source referenced above however.
OTOH, nosey, I've got a similar machine as you. Read on xlr8yourmac.com that people have been pretty succesfull installing Pioneer 105s in B/W G3s.
I'm planning on getting one for mine.
Mostly, I'm just bummed I won't get a chance to use iMovie 3 this weekend. I have a project I was planning on using it for. Nothing important though, so I'll let it wait a week.
{edited to add}
Then again, it is FREE software I'm waiting to download to the machine I bought from them almost four years ago. I've gotten my money's worth from this machine long ago. I consider this a gift, not something owed me, so I have to wait another week - no biggie.
Thanks Seb. I work as a night auditor and the hotel's at 22% I have a lot of time to try to figure out this licensing rumor.
Pioneers in a B&W? I wonder how the movie plays. A friend of mine tried to put a DVD in his Quicksilver (or something... faster than mine, anyway...) a few months after he bought it, but couldn't play DVD's without a special card of some sort. I'll check the site...
And you are right... anything else I can do with this machine is icing on the cake. I was considering trying to get it to burn DVD's and get an iBook, but I really reallywant one of the new powerbooks...
Grrr... It's Apple being pushy again. They want to sell new superdrive computers to people, not iDVD.
I can confirm, iDVD 3 requires an Apple SuperDrive (although I imagine it will work with internal Pioneer drives. However, Apple may have closed that option as well. I don't know.)
This is lame. It doesn't say anything on Apple's website about a delay, or at least not that I can find. The only thing I can find states that it is to be released on the 25th as scheduled. Does anyone else find anything wrong with this picture???
<strong>The new PowerMacs are available now and have iLife preinstalled, what is the hold up for downloads from the apple site?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Do those powermacs have system 10.2.4 on them?
If so, the release of that system upgrade may be the holdup.
Why? The requirements for iLife is 10.1.5.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I thought Apple was making Jaguar the minimum for all new software they announced at MWSF to entice people to upgrade. Safari's minimum is 10.2. I thought ILife was the same.
I'm just bummed that I did a 1hr movie on iDVD and iMovie 2 and couldn't do chapter markers, waste of a friggin DVD. However, I did do a thorough search of the literature before I got my eMac with superdrive. As far as I could tell the slowest processer that can burn a DVD is as 550 G4. DVD data is different, for some reason. YOu can burn on a slower macnine if you have apples DVD pro software, or Toast or wahtever, but then you need Final CUt Pro to prepare the files,iDVD doesn't make a master file, it uses temp files and deletes them. Anyway, I like my superdrive, and I like my eMac, and after I traded in some stuff, it didn't even cost that much. I miss my 400 DVSE, but, hey, you can't have everything, and a G3 processer isn't going to cut it for encoding DVD's anyway. Hell it took 6 hours to encode a VCD.
<strong> As far as I could tell the slowest processer that can burn a DVD is as 550 G4. DVD data is different, for some reason. YOu can burn on a slower macnine if you have apples DVD pro software, or Toast or wahtever, but then you need Final CUt Pro to prepare the files,iDVD doesn't make a master file, it uses temp files and deletes them. Anyway, I like my superdrive, and I like my eMac, and after I traded in some stuff, it didn't even cost that much. I miss my 400 DVSE, but, hey, you can't have everything, and a G3 processer isn't going to cut it for encoding DVD's anyway. Hell it took 6 hours to encode a VCD.
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Well, that helps with one of my considerations. I was thinking of getting an iBook and putting a burner in my old G3 to actually burn the DVD's I wanted.
From the sounds of it, though, it will be a better use of money (limited as it is) to get the 12 inch powerbook.
A eMac and iBook is almost one thousand dollars (canadian,eh) more than the powerbook... (Assuming Superdrive and Combo upgrades)
I'd love for iPhoto 2 to be available for download tomorrow because that would coincide with the ship date of my new digital camera! I am very excited let me tell you.
<strong>I'd love for iPhoto 2 to be available for download tomorrow because that would coincide with the ship date of my new digital camera! I am very excited let me tell you. </strong><hr></blockquote>
A small warning... Digitalcameras are addictive but extremely useful. What kind are you getting? Something small so you can take, um... candid shots, or something bigger with the feel of a normalish camera?
Thanks to helpful AppleInsider members including a big shout out to jmclarke, I started <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=8&t=000546"; target="_blank">this thread</a> and quickly decided on which one to get- the Canon PowerShot S200 with a 128mb memory card for $250 dollars (free 1 day shipping as well). I'm hoping I'll find it as addictive as I imagine. First photo op? A wedding!
Pioneers in a B&W? I wonder how the movie plays.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Blue and Whites originally shipped with a DVD bto option, ya'know? They used a standard Rage128 with a 'bolt on' (that's the best way I can describe it) dvd decoder chip, dedicated to decoding dvd's. On these machines, use the 9 hack you could run a DVD as your desktop with no performance hit, because it was all being done by the bolt on chip. cool, huh? At the time I didn't see myself switching to DVD for another couple of years or so, so I ordered my B&W with the ZIP instead (big mistake), oh well. The chips can still be had on eBay every now and again.
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<strong>I've heard 'the licensing reason' as well. Don't know for a fact how true it is though.
Didn't hear it from the source referenced above however.
OTOH, nosey, I've got a similar machine as you. Read on xlr8yourmac.com that people have been pretty succesfull installing Pioneer 105s in B/W G3s.
I'm planning on getting one for mine.
Mostly, I'm just bummed I won't get a chance to use iMovie 3 this weekend. I have a project I was planning on using it for. Nothing important though, so I'll let it wait a week.
{edited to add}
Then again, it is FREE software I'm waiting to download to the machine I bought from them almost four years ago. I've gotten my money's worth from this machine long ago. I consider this a gift, not something owed me, so I have to wait another week - no biggie.
[ 01-25-2003: Message edited by: seb ]</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks Seb. I work as a night auditor and the hotel's at 22% I have a lot of time to try to figure out this licensing rumor.
Pioneers in a B&W? I wonder how the movie plays. A friend of mine tried to put a DVD in his Quicksilver (or something... faster than mine, anyway...) a few months after he bought it, but couldn't play DVD's without a special card of some sort. I'll check the site...
And you are right... anything else I can do with this machine is icing on the cake. I was considering trying to get it to burn DVD's and get an iBook, but I really reallywant one of the new powerbooks...
I can confirm, iDVD 3 requires an Apple SuperDrive (although I imagine it will work with internal Pioneer drives. However, Apple may have closed that option as well. I don't know.)
Barto
Says "coming soon" by the purchasing link, nothing about the 25th any more.
<a href="http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0301/23.ilife.php"; target="_blank">http://maccentral.macworld.com/news/0301/23.ilife.php</a>;
MacCentral has an official statement from Apple.
I'll live, however in anticipation.
<strong>The new PowerMacs are available now and have iLife preinstalled, what is the hold up for downloads from the apple site?</strong><hr></blockquote>
Do those powermacs have system 10.2.4 on them?
If so, the release of that system upgrade may be the holdup.
<strong>
Do those powermacs have system 10.2.4 on them?
If so, the release of that system upgrade may be the holdup.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Why? The requirements for iLife is 10.1.5.
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Why? The requirements for iLife is 10.1.5.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I thought Apple was making Jaguar the minimum for all new software they announced at MWSF to entice people to upgrade. Safari's minimum is 10.2. I thought ILife was the same.
Cool. Hopefully get it tommorow
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<strong> As far as I could tell the slowest processer that can burn a DVD is as 550 G4. DVD data is different, for some reason. YOu can burn on a slower macnine if you have apples DVD pro software, or Toast or wahtever, but then you need Final CUt Pro to prepare the files,iDVD doesn't make a master file, it uses temp files and deletes them. Anyway, I like my superdrive, and I like my eMac, and after I traded in some stuff, it didn't even cost that much. I miss my 400 DVSE, but, hey, you can't have everything, and a G3 processer isn't going to cut it for encoding DVD's anyway. Hell it took 6 hours to encode a VCD.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well, that helps with one of my considerations. I was thinking of getting an iBook and putting a burner in my old G3 to actually burn the DVD's I wanted.
From the sounds of it, though, it will be a better use of money (limited as it is) to get the 12 inch powerbook.
A eMac and iBook is almost one thousand dollars (canadian,eh) more than the powerbook... (Assuming Superdrive and Combo upgrades)
Decisions, Decisions...
<strong>MIne shipped today (29th).
Cool. Hopefully get it tommorow</strong><hr></blockquote>
Mine shipped today as well. But it's not available for download. I guess 31st is the target date.
<strong>I'd love for iPhoto 2 to be available for download tomorrow because that would coincide with the ship date of my new digital camera! I am very excited let me tell you.
A small warning... Digitalcameras are addictive but extremely useful. What kind are you getting? Something small so you can take, um... candid shots, or something bigger with the feel of a normalish camera?
<strong>
Pioneers in a B&W? I wonder how the movie plays.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Blue and Whites originally shipped with a DVD bto option, ya'know? They used a standard Rage128 with a 'bolt on' (that's the best way I can describe it) dvd decoder chip, dedicated to decoding dvd's. On these machines, use the 9 hack you could run a DVD as your desktop with no performance hit, because it was all being done by the bolt on chip. cool, huh? At the time I didn't see myself switching to DVD for another couple of years or so, so I ordered my B&W with the ZIP instead (big mistake), oh well. The chips can still be had on eBay every now and again.