Every part of it is registered in some legal haven, its totally decentralized, its "impossible" to stop.
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The industry can still upload "songs" that are actually noise and/or irritating loops to degrade the quality of the service, which is one of the things they're doing. They're also pressing the US Congress for permission to hack servers, run denial-of-service attacks, and even attach viruses. Seriously.
This is why they should be liquidated, their executives jailed for life, and ownership of their entire catalogs reverted to the respective artists or their estates. But since that's not going to happen, Apple's approach could be at least workable.
One item stands out: registering my iPod with Apple? Why? What if I have other AAC files that may be shared from other users. Will it remove them, if the file is not listed on Apple's servers?
How much money can Apple make from this? How much can the record labels?
When you look at the number of potential customers - Apple has 3% market share, and we'll say 20% of Mac users are on OS X, then 98% of them actually use iTunes, and suppose only 90% of those have internet access... the numbers don't look too good.
That's just (speculation) how many people would have access to the service. Then you have to start thinking about who's actually going to use it... a bunch of questions come into play there as well, restrictions, usage, etc.
<strong>Seriously, why should Apple put one of it's best applications on Windows? Aren't they trying to get switchers? The iApps and Mac OS X are supposed to be what's pushing the Mac right now. Giving the iApps (even just iTunes) to Windows users is just another reason to stick with Windows.</strong><hr></blockquote>
well, it's like the (pardon the analogy) playground pusher: the first hit's always free.
itunes may go to pc to integrate with ipod for windows, but i doubt any of the other apps would. so, for example, my idea above for downloading and printing out the jewel case inserts would only work on a mac seamlessly. you COULD do it on a pc, but you better have a good idea of what you're doing in order to make use of the downloaded images. so in the end, it's easier on a mac.
[quote]Originally posted by Ra:
<strong>How much money can Apple make from this? How much can the record labels?</strong><hr></blockquote>
well, like i said, if it is as trivial a matter as i suspect for apple to do this (i.e. add button to itunes, and let the record labels and amazon do the rest), then it costs apple practically nothing (and whatever it does cost them, they would recoup on the free advertising in the news for offering the service).
then, even if they only earn a dime on the service, if that dime comes from someone who would have just downloaded for free and never bought at all, then it's pure profit.
then again, i don't even run a business (yet), so maybe i am full of it.
Ugh. I wish you guys had caught the link Defiant posted up there in the second reply. I hate to close a thread that's already gotten a number of replies, but there's been an existing thread in General Discussion about the exact same subject. Go ahead and post your comments there instead.
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Kazaa? Under attack? How?
Every part of it is registered in some legal haven, its totally decentralized, its "impossible" to stop.
</strong><hr></blockquote>
The industry can still upload "songs" that are actually noise and/or irritating loops to degrade the quality of the service, which is one of the things they're doing. They're also pressing the US Congress for permission to hack servers, run denial-of-service attacks, and even attach viruses. Seriously.
This is why they should be liquidated, their executives jailed for life, and ownership of their entire catalogs reverted to the respective artists or their estates. But since that's not going to happen, Apple's approach could be at least workable.
For me is mostly about the quality, i like to rip songs myself so i get the results i want.
Then there's the time it takes to search for download entire albums, etc..
i much rather spend $15-$20 on a CD.
So for me if it doesn't matter if i buy a CD or download it on-line, as long as i got the whole thing at quality i want.
Cool idea. Let's hope it works.
Plus when you have music industry behind you, and adopting open standard technologies (like AAC) it's great for apple.
Wonder what m$ has to say about it, and how does this relate to palladium .
We shall see i guess.
2. Sell consumers crippled product online
3. ????
4. Profit!! <hr></blockquote>
3 is collect more underpants, of course
When you look at the number of potential customers - Apple has 3% market share, and we'll say 20% of Mac users are on OS X, then 98% of them actually use iTunes, and suppose only 90% of those have internet access... the numbers don't look too good.
That's just (speculation) how many people would have access to the service. Then you have to start thinking about who's actually going to use it... a bunch of questions come into play there as well, restrictions, usage, etc.
I dunno... <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
<strong>Seriously, why should Apple put one of it's best applications on Windows? Aren't they trying to get switchers? The iApps and Mac OS X are supposed to be what's pushing the Mac right now. Giving the iApps (even just iTunes) to Windows users is just another reason to stick with Windows.</strong><hr></blockquote>
well, it's like the (pardon the analogy) playground pusher: the first hit's always free.
itunes may go to pc to integrate with ipod for windows, but i doubt any of the other apps would. so, for example, my idea above for downloading and printing out the jewel case inserts would only work on a mac seamlessly. you COULD do it on a pc, but you better have a good idea of what you're doing in order to make use of the downloaded images. so in the end, it's easier on a mac.
[quote]Originally posted by Ra:
<strong>How much money can Apple make from this? How much can the record labels?</strong><hr></blockquote>
well, like i said, if it is as trivial a matter as i suspect for apple to do this (i.e. add button to itunes, and let the record labels and amazon do the rest), then it costs apple practically nothing (and whatever it does cost them, they would recoup on the free advertising in the news for offering the service).
then, even if they only earn a dime on the service, if that dime comes from someone who would have just downloaded for free and never bought at all, then it's pure profit.
then again, i don't even run a business (yet), so maybe i am full of it.
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The other thread:
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[ 03-04-2003: Message edited by: Brad ]</p>