2Ghz Laptops?? BLOODY HELL!! What can Apple do??

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in Future Apple Hardware edited January 2014
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These will be available in June!! It seems that the P4-M is scaling really much faster than even Intel predicted. Really, weight and aesthetics asside, that is one hell of a lot of punch for a laptop. What can apple do, to try to restore some parity here???
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  • Reply 1 of 26
    discocowdiscocow Posts: 603member
    All things being equal (& they?re not) a 2 GHz notebook chip would have nowhere near the processing power of a desktop chip of the same clock speed (obviously) & without further info it would be safe to assume the little sucker would drain the battery dry like a *insert clever metaphor here*



    but like you said:



    BLOODY HELL!! a 2 GHz laptop
  • Reply 2 of 26
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,276member
    [quote]Originally posted by warpd:

    <strong><a href="http://news.com.com/2100-1001-935048.html?tag=fd_top"; target="_blank">Check this out..</a>



    These will be available in June!! It seems that the P4-M is scaling really much faster than even Intel predicted. Really, weight and aesthetics asside, that is one hell of a lot of punch for a laptop. What can apple do, to try to restore some parity here??? </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Hmmm well maybe if apple had a proc with a 22 stage pipline it would be a little easier now wouldn't it?



    It would be nice to converse about more meaningful processor metrics other than megahertz. Intel created the P4 design to appeal to the "megahertz is everything" crowd and I guess they've succeeded..because that's all I hear being blathered about.
  • Reply 3 of 26
    keyboardf12keyboardf12 Posts: 1,379member
    ditto what hmurchison said.



    ps. i bet i produce more with my 667dvi than 99% of windows users using their 2ghz notebook to check mail, word proc, and play solitaire.



    please people loose the number intel megahrtz myth.



    ps 3d people excepted of course
  • Reply 4 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by warpd:

    <strong><a href="http://news.com.com/2100-1001-935048.html?tag=fd_top"; target="_blank">Check this out..</a>



    These will be available in June!! It seems that the P4-M is scaling really much faster than even Intel predicted. Really, weight and aesthetics asside, that is one hell of a lot of punch for a laptop. What can apple do, to try to restore some parity here??? </strong><hr></blockquote>



    Cut the battery life in half and make the laptop slow down by about 40% when it's not plugged into the wall? Then it might be equal.
  • Reply 5 of 26
    mjemje Posts: 91member
    Don't Flame me please, I'm just posting some results. Apple had really had the extra things that made its computer better. Built in 802.11. Firewire. Cook design ect. But the PC world It catching up, and fast.Has all that + Dobly out, DDR, 64MB graphics. I compared Getways Top of the line to the Ti Book. And Yes I know Its not comapring Apples and Apples (Pun only sorta intended) but still COME ON and OPEN YOUR EYES!



    Processor: Mobile Intel® Pentium® 4 Processor 1.8GHz-M



    Screen: 15.7" SXGA TFT Active Matrix



    Memory: 256MB DDR SDRAM



    Hard Drive: 40GB Ultra ATA Hard Drive



    Floppy Drive: 3.5" 1.44MB diskette drive



    CD-ROM or DVD: Modular 8x/8x/24x CDRW and 8x DVD combo



    Application Software: Microsoft® Works Suite 2002 - Including Microsoft® Word and Encarta



    Video: ATI Mobility Radeon 7500 w/ 64MB DDR Video Memory (Sh!t !)



    Multimedia: SoundBlaster Pro Compatible Sound & Stereo Speakers, Internal Microphone, Headphone/Speaker Jack, Line-In and Line-Out Mic Jacks



    Expansion Slots: Two PCMCIA Type II or One Type III PC Card Slots



    External ports: SVGA, Parallel, Serial, (2) USB, PS/2, S/PDIF, NTSC/PAL Output



    Advanced Digital Multimedia Ports: Integrated IEEE 1394 AND optical port for Dolby? Digital Output



    Battery: High-Capacity Lithium Ion Battery with AC pack



    Dimensions: 13.86" x 11.44" x 1.77" (W x D x H), approximate weight 8.65lb. (Kinda Really a Beast but only 3 lbs heavier)



    Modem: Integrated V.92 56K Modem



    Network Adapter: Integrated Intel® PRO 10/100 VE Network Connection



    Wireless Networking Adapter: Integrated 802.11b Wireless Networking



    Internet Service Provider: One year America Online®



    Limited Warranty Program: 1Yr Parts, Labor, No

    Price: $2,474.00

    All for UNDER the price of the 667 Ti (No need to lest specs I hope)



    And yes I own a Tibook, I wouldn't trade it, but we are only 5% of the market.



    [Edit:



    [ 06-12-2002: Message edited by: MJE ]</p>
  • Reply 6 of 26
    nonsuchnonsuch Posts: 293member
    Are we going to have another one of these stupid threads every time the competition releases a new model?



    Mods, please start moving these threads into General Discussion, before this forum goes completely to sh!t.
  • Reply 7 of 26
    hmurchisonhmurchison Posts: 12,276member
    3lbs heavier!!!! :eek: That thing's a TANK!!!



    [ 06-12-2002: Message edited by: hmurchison ]</p>
  • Reply 8 of 26
    cdhostagecdhostage Posts: 1,038member
    I wouldn't mind carrying a huge laptop if it had extrra batteries to handle a 3 GHz P4. A true P4, not some friggin Portable processor.

    AND IT RUNS AT FULL SPEED AT ALL TIMES! No stupid cutbacks.



    I'll carry 15 pounds of laptop equiptment if I can get a complete desktop replacement. I said 3 GHz becaue that will be the next iteration.



    Hmm... it would be prety loud. Fat P4s generate enough heat to fry stuff, so they need bigass fans.



    Hey! I'll carry another 15 pounds - a dewar of liquid nitrogen!
  • Reply 9 of 26
    mac voyermac voyer Posts: 1,283member
    Correct me I'm wrong, but doesn't Apple's power management scheme cut processor speed as well?
  • Reply 10 of 26
    cyko95cyko95 Posts: 391member
    1.) These 2GB+ chips shouldn't even be listed in the "Future Hardware" section. A friend of mine has an AlienWare PC Laptop that has a 2.4GB Intel in it. These models have been out since at least April and thats just when I found out about them.



    2.) Secondly, PC manufactures are ALWAYS taking heat from consumers on the weight of their notebooks. Mac comsumers (& Apple themselves) are always bragging about theirs. My iBook weighs around 5lbs. My friends AlienWare weighs about 12 -13. Gee that just doesn't seem all that "portable" to me.



    3.) Windows, and I speak from 5 year PC Admin experience, for the most part is so bloated, that your never see the processor potential anyway. Not to mention all the crap they throw on their systems when they sell it.



    4.) The battery life in my iBook is phenominal. I couldn't go 45 minutes with my Dell inspiron without the battery dying. I can take a 3 hour trip in my car without that happening to my iBook.



    I'm not defending Mac because I love them so much since I got my iBook. I'm just saying, let the PC morons grunt over their Mhz. It doesn't mean jack in the end.
  • Reply 11 of 26
    resres Posts: 711member
    Actually, you can already get a PC laptop with a true 2.4 GHz P4 <a href="http://www.alienware.com/main/system_pages/area51-m.asp"; target="_blank">http://www.alienware.com/main/system_pages/area51-m.asp</a>;



    The heavy desktop replacement laptops are becoming quite popular, Apple should really consider making one.
  • Reply 12 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by Mac Voyer:

    <strong>Correct me I'm wrong, but doesn't Apple's power management scheme cut processor speed as well?</strong><hr></blockquote>



    IIRC, certain laptops did so under 9. X doesn't even have an option for it. Run a benchmark (like povbench) with and w/out power - it will turn out the same.



    Than again, supposedly this option is back in Jag-wire.
  • Reply 13 of 26
    cyko95cyko95 Posts: 391member
    [quote]Originally posted by Res:

    <strong>Actually, you can already get a PC laptop with a true 2.4 GHz P4 <a href="http://www.alienware.com/main/system_pages/area51-m.asp"; target="_blank">http://www.alienware.com/main/system_pages/area51-m.asp</a>;



    The heavy desktop replacement laptops are becoming quite popular, Apple should really consider making one.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Thats the system that I was saying that my friend has.
  • Reply 14 of 26
    [quote]Originally posted by Anonymous Karma:

    <strong>



    IIRC, certain laptops did so under 9. X doesn't even have an option for it. Run a benchmark (like povbench) with and w/out power - it will turn out the same.



    Than again, supposedly this option is back in Jag-wire.</strong><hr></blockquote>



    Now on xlr8yourmac in the iBook soft overclocking article they mentioned that the processor can be ordered by the energy saver to go to 400 Mhz in X.
  • Reply 15 of 26
    cdhostagecdhostage Posts: 1,038member
    OOOOOO! 1 GHz G3 iBooks!
  • Reply 16 of 26
    keyboardf12keyboardf12 Posts: 1,379member
    oohhh 2 ghz pc laptops that rely on inefficient pipelines and marketing that blows smoke up people's tailpipes.
  • Reply 17 of 26
    gizwaldgizwald Posts: 39member
    I hate when people try to sound like they know what they are talking about, but still can't remember that processor speeds are measured in hertz, not bytes. (2.4 GB? by today's standards, that's a pretty lame hard drive size.)
  • Reply 18 of 26
    discocowdiscocow Posts: 603member
    [quote] Originally posted by: Gizwald

    I hate when people try to sound like they know what they are talking about, but still can't remember that processor speeds are measured in hertz, not bytes.... <hr></blockquote>



    sorry to be a nit picking smart ass, but processor speeds aren't measured in hertz either, you are referring to the clock speed not the processor speed
  • Reply 19 of 26
    kidredkidred Posts: 2,402member
    BLOODY HELL APPLE DOESN'T HAVE TO DO SH!T



    Get a life. If you have info on FUTURE APPLE hardware, then this is the place.



    This is not the place for CURRENT PC hardware. Go to a PC FORUM for that or take it to the general forum.



    Apples doesn't need to do ANYTHING MORE then it is currently doing. That includes the towers as Apple seems to be on a bit of a roll.



    So troll elsewhere.
  • Reply 20 of 26
    macgpmacgp Posts: 88member
    This forum has redundent topics <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> I think we should have auto generating topics a month after a MacWorld.



    [ 06-12-2002: Message edited by: MacGP ]</p>
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