Code discovered in iOS 7.1 offers further evidence Touch ID is coming to Apple's next iPads

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  • Reply 21 of 42
    sangs wrote: »
    Somebody still needs to explain to me why Touch ID is a big deal. I have it on the iPhone 5S, don't have it on the iPad Air and certainly would not base any future purchase on whether or not a device had Touch ID. Is typing a passcode or password really so time-consuming?

    *** crickets singing ***

    I have no idea. But I hear positive things about TouchID on the iPhone 5s.
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  • Reply 22 of 42
    morkymorky Posts: 201member
    sangs wrote: »
    You know what? That is by far one of the best reasons I've seen. Unlike people simply whining about having to type a password because their attention spans are so short. Thanks. 

    It is even faster to get to your home screen with Touch ID than swipe to unlock with no passcode: just click and release while keeping your thumb on the home button. I pull my phone out a lot, and it is a noticeable pleasure to not need to enter the code every time, but throw in that it's faster than swiping to unlock with no passcode, it makes setting up a secure device a no brainier. Also, as the poster above noted, my daughter hacked my code by watching me when she was four.
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  • Reply 23 of 42
    emoelleremoeller Posts: 596member
    I was due to upgrade my old iPad, but disappointed that the Air didn't have iTouch or more memory (not RAM, but working memory - should be 2Gb or more). iTouch is one of those "only at Apple" things that just makes life so much easier. I use a long (greater than four digit) security code, so it makes my life much easier.

    I am confident that this update will continue to increase iPad sales, and I expect a refresh well before the fall. I'll be in line for one when it arrives...
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  • Reply 24 of 42
    saareksaarek Posts: 1,609member
    slurpy wrote: »
    No, it shouldn't have been - for a large multitude of reasons, if you actually took more than half a second to consider it. Among other things, it would be very irresponsible to add such a major new feature, which needs shitloads of testing, with security and reliability implications, to multiple product lines at once. If there IS a major issue, they just fucked over both the iPhone and the iPad.

    A second reason is complexity of manufacture and availability of components- you have no idea if they would have been able to manufacture and integrate that many Touch ID components, to satisfy iPhone and iPad lines.

    Thirdly- marketing. Having the feature on both the iPhone/iPad dilutes focus and marketing of the feature itself. iPhone is obviously the priority for such a feature, in terms of usefulness. Touch ID has now been tested with tens of millions of people, in millions of use case scenarios, and Apple can now take this data and make sure the implementation is the best it can possibly be on the iPad. The feature has gotten significantly more reliable simply through software updates.

    Only someone who's single thought is I WANT IT NOW DAMN ALL CONSEQUENCES would hold the view you do. A rational human being would see that your "should have" demand is childish, short-sighted, and just plain wrong. 
    It was left out to ensure that they had a Big Bang feature to convince people to upgrade when the new iPad comes out.

    The iPhone 5s had been out for enough time for any serious bugs to be encountered and squashed.

    Remember that the iPad refresh was in November.
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  • Reply 25 of 42
    tikimantikiman Posts: 68member
    Since when is a .plist was considered "code"?
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  • Reply 26 of 42
    pscooter63pscooter63 Posts: 1,082member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by saarek View Post



    It was left out to ensure that they had a Big Bang feature to convince people to upgrade when the new iPad comes out.

     

     

    Not that there's anything wrong with that...

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  • Reply 27 of 42
    john.bjohn.b Posts: 2,742member

    That's great, but it's only half the equation, iPads still need user profiles for Touch ID to be a real home run feature.

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  • Reply 28 of 42
    j1h15233j1h15233 Posts: 274member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sangs View Post

     

    You know what? That is by far one of the best reasons I've seen. Unlike people simply whining about having to type a password because their attention spans are so short. Thanks. 


    What do a short attention span have to do with it? It's a necessary evil to have a password on your phone and not only is touch ID more secure, but it's faster and easier. Congrats on being the first person to complain about that combo.

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  • Reply 29 of 42
    jfc1138jfc1138 Posts: 3,090member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by sangs View Post



    Somebody still needs to explain to me why Touch ID is a big deal. I have it on the iPhone 5S, don't have it on the iPad Air and certainly would not base any future purchase on whether or not a device had Touch ID. Is typing a passcode or password really so time-consuming?

    The time/effort can add up I expect, especially for those who, like me, have auto-lock set to the minimum interval to max the power savings by keeping the screen dark as much as possible.

     

    For those who set their auto-lock on 5 minutes or never, perhaps less so.

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  • Reply 30 of 42
    pmzpmz Posts: 3,433member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post





    Yeah because I'm sure Apple has tens of millions of touch id sensors sitting around but decided to not use them on the iPad because it's a second class citizen. How does Touch ID being on the iPad take away from iPhone sales? To me they're completely separate products. I still think the 5S was Apple's testing ground for Touch ID and when it makes it's way to iPad it will be for more than just unlocking the device or making iTunes purchases.

    ????

     

    Do you really think that's how it works? Do you really think something so trivial and 'making enough TouchID sensors' is what dictates Apple's product strategy? Give me a break. If Apple wanted 10 million TouchID sensors, they would have made 10 million.

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  • Reply 31 of 42
    hexclockhexclock Posts: 1,345member
    sangs wrote: »
    Somebody still needs to explain to me why Touch ID is a big deal. I have it on the iPhone 5S, don't have it on the iPad Air and certainly would not base any future purchase on whether or not a device had Touch ID. Is typing a passcode or password really so time-consuming?

    Don't forget, Touch ID is still in it's infant stages. I imagine Apple will open the API up to 3rd parties at some point. Imagine never having to type ANY password ever again.
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  • Reply 32 of 42
    dunksdunks Posts: 1,254member
    Get a move on Apple. They could have linked Touch ID to a keychain that entered all of your online passwords last year. Limiting the functionality to device unlock and iTunes purchases, and omitting it from the retina iPad mini, were the main reason I decided to forgoe upgrading both my iOS devices last year.
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  • Reply 33 of 42
    crowleycrowley Posts: 10,453member
    pmz wrote: »
    ????

    Do you really think that's how it works? Do you really think something so trivial and 'making enough TouchID sensors' is what dictates Apple's product strategy? Give me a break. If Apple wanted 10 million TouchID sensors, they would have made 10 million.
    Because Apple have never been supply constrained in anything, ever.
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  • Reply 34 of 42
    Mmm, Let's see ...

    New iPads with 64-bit CPUs, robust security, theft deterrent, more RAM, potentially larger screens and larger SSDs ...

    Who could be interested in that? Possibly the 95% of Fortune 500 companies that are deploying and writing apps for iPads ...

    Ya' think?

    Not to mention hospitals, education, military, government, creatives ...
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  • Reply 35 of 42
    tikiman wrote: »
    Since when is a .plist was considered "code"?

    A plist is XML -- like HTML, it is parsed (and rendered) and is usually considered code.
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  • Reply 36 of 42
    false -- AI forum screw up on a post from an iPad.
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  • Reply 37 of 42
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    crowley wrote: »
    Because Apple have never been supply constrained in anything, ever.

    Kuo was saying at the time that the 5s was going to be in short supply because of the sensor, the sapphire, or both. What feeble memories people have.
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  • Reply 38 of 42
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    saarek wrote: »
    It was left out to ensure that they had a Big Bang feature to convince people to upgrade when the new iPad comes out.

    The iPhone 5s had been out for enough time for any serious bugs to be encountered and squashed.

    Remember that the iPad refresh was in November.

    Just because you would think of petty nickel and diming of your customers doesn't mean Apple would.

    Also, you forget how short the time between Apple's acquiring the technology and their rolling it out. And you forget that the 5s was said to be constrained because of the Touch ID, by Kuo. You want to argue with a supply reporter based in Taiwan, go ahead.
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  • Reply 39 of 42
    heliahelia Posts: 170member
    Wish I hadn't bought iPad Air few weeks ago.
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  • Reply 40 of 42
    SpamSandwichspamsandwich Posts: 33,407member
    helia wrote: »
    Wish I hadn't bought iPad Air few weeks ago.

    You may be able to return it. Check with your store.
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