Samsung reports second quarterly drop in profits, blames premium phone sales
Samsung Electronics reported quarterly operating profits of 8.5 trillion South Korean won ($8.2 billion), a -3.3 percent change from the year ago quarter and its second quarterly drop in a row; the company blamed slowing high-end smartphone and flat screen sales.
According to a report by Reuters, the results sent the company's stock up slightly by 0.3 percent, because the company had previously guided for operational profit of just 8.4 trillion won.
The entirety of Samsung Electronics, which includes Consumer Electronics (televisions and appliances); IT & Mobile (networking gear; phone, PC and tablets) and Device Solutions (display and chip components) reported net cash after debt of 49 trillion won ($47.5 billion) and cash flow from operations of 12.21 trillion won ($11.8 billion).
Apple, which sells products comparable to Samsung's Mobile group, reported net cash of $150.6 billion and $17 billion debt, a difference of $133.6 billion, and cash flow from operations of $13.5 billion. Apple remains a major customer of Samsung's Device Solutions group for a variety of its components of fabrication of its custom Application Processors.
Samsung Mobile reported profits of 6.43 trillion won ($6.2 billion), down 1.2 percent from a 6.51 trillion won profit a year earlier. For the same quarter, Apple reported twice as much operating income, $13.6 billion, an increase of 8.24 percent over the year ago quarter.
While the company doesn't report sales numbers of products like Apple does, its earnings overview described the mobile market as suffering "lower smartphone/tablet demand under weak seasonality."
The company noted that in developed markets, "channel inventory increased due to intensified competition from the previous quarter" while in emerging markets "demand decreased under weak market condition in EM including China."
Looking forward, Samsung observed the over the next quarter, it expects "slight growth QoQ as weak seasonality to continue in 2Q" for phones, and for tablets, "slight demand growth under weak seasonality" and it "forecast competition to intensify with line up diversification by set makers amid slowdown of growth trend."
"We sold almost 44 million iPhones, setting a new March quarter record," he noted, stating, "These stronger results were broad-based both from a product point of view with demand for each of our three iPhone stronger than its predecessor and from a geographic standpoint."
Cook added, "We gained smartphone share in many developed and emerging markets including the U.S., the UK, Japan, Canada, Germany, France, Vietnam and Greater China, just to mention a few. In fact, we established a new all-time record for total iPhone sales in the BRIC [Brazil, Russia, India and China] countries."
Responding to a question about China, Cook answered, "we did have an all-time revenue record in Greater China, just under $10 billion at $9.8 billion. iPhone sales were up 28%, that's versus the IDCs market forecast of 20% growth. So we gained share."
A significant part of the high end smartphone demand that Apple saw but Samsung didn't appears to be related to the Android to iOS switcher effect Cook mentioned.
"I think it's important to point out that if you look at some of the numbers we're seeing on first-time iPhone buyers," Cook noted, "people that bought the iPhone 4S: 85% were first-time iPhone buyers. And the 5c: 69% first-time iPhone buyers. So these are extraordinary, and as you would expect, these are also heavily Android switchers: 62% of the people that bought the 4s switched from Android. 60% of the people that bought the 5c switched from Android. And so we're incredibly pleased with this."
On tablets, Cook said, "iPad sales came in at the high end of our expectations, but we realized they were below analyst estimates." He also noted that "over two-third's of people registering an iPad in the last six months, were new to iPad, while over half of the people registering iPhones were new to iPhone."
According to a report by Reuters, the results sent the company's stock up slightly by 0.3 percent, because the company had previously guided for operational profit of just 8.4 trillion won.
The entirety of Samsung Electronics, which includes Consumer Electronics (televisions and appliances); IT & Mobile (networking gear; phone, PC and tablets) and Device Solutions (display and chip components) reported net cash after debt of 49 trillion won ($47.5 billion) and cash flow from operations of 12.21 trillion won ($11.8 billion).
Apple, which sells products comparable to Samsung's Mobile group, reported net cash of $150.6 billion and $17 billion debt, a difference of $133.6 billion, and cash flow from operations of $13.5 billion. Apple remains a major customer of Samsung's Device Solutions group for a variety of its components of fabrication of its custom Application Processors.
Trouble in mobile
Reuters stated that "Samsung's mobile business is poised for an uncertain 2014, analysts say. Its broad range of low-end phones are being caught by the improving quality of Chinese-made offerings, while the large-screen advantage of its top-range phones could be countered by new models from Apple Inc."Samsung Mobile reported profits of 6.43 trillion won ($6.2 billion), down 1.2 percent from a 6.51 trillion won profit a year earlier. For the same quarter, Apple reported twice as much operating income, $13.6 billion, an increase of 8.24 percent over the year ago quarter.
While the company doesn't report sales numbers of products like Apple does, its earnings overview described the mobile market as suffering "lower smartphone/tablet demand under weak seasonality."
The company noted that in developed markets, "channel inventory increased due to intensified competition from the previous quarter" while in emerging markets "demand decreased under weak market condition in EM including China."
Looking forward, Samsung observed the over the next quarter, it expects "slight growth QoQ as weak seasonality to continue in 2Q" for phones, and for tablets, "slight demand growth under weak seasonality" and it "forecast competition to intensify with line up diversification by set makers amid slowdown of growth trend."
Apple seeing different demand in mobile
Reporting on the same quarter, Apple just announced a very different picture of the global smartphone market. "iPhone was key in driving our stronger-than-expected results," Apple's chief executive Tim Cook told analysts last week."We sold almost 44 million iPhones, setting a new March quarter record," he noted, stating, "These stronger results were broad-based both from a product point of view with demand for each of our three iPhone stronger than its predecessor and from a geographic standpoint."
Cook added, "We gained smartphone share in many developed and emerging markets including the U.S., the UK, Japan, Canada, Germany, France, Vietnam and Greater China, just to mention a few. In fact, we established a new all-time record for total iPhone sales in the BRIC [Brazil, Russia, India and China] countries."
A significant part of the high end smartphone demand that Apple saw but Samsung didn't appears to be related to the Android to iOS switcher effect
Responding to a question about China, Cook answered, "we did have an all-time revenue record in Greater China, just under $10 billion at $9.8 billion. iPhone sales were up 28%, that's versus the IDCs market forecast of 20% growth. So we gained share."
A significant part of the high end smartphone demand that Apple saw but Samsung didn't appears to be related to the Android to iOS switcher effect Cook mentioned.
"I think it's important to point out that if you look at some of the numbers we're seeing on first-time iPhone buyers," Cook noted, "people that bought the iPhone 4S: 85% were first-time iPhone buyers. And the 5c: 69% first-time iPhone buyers. So these are extraordinary, and as you would expect, these are also heavily Android switchers: 62% of the people that bought the 4s switched from Android. 60% of the people that bought the 5c switched from Android. And so we're incredibly pleased with this."
On tablets, Cook said, "iPad sales came in at the high end of our expectations, but we realized they were below analyst estimates." He also noted that "over two-third's of people registering an iPad in the last six months, were new to iPad, while over half of the people registering iPhones were new to iPhone."
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So much for marketing.
Add TizenOS on top of that soon to jettison that botched-experiment called "Android", and it's all downhill from there.
As amusing as the Samsung bubble bursting is to watch, calling this a quarterly loss is quite a bit of a stretch. They did still manage to make $8.2 BILLION (with a
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Quarterly drop YoY =/= Quarterly loss
I hear they're planning to release a "premium" S5 with a metal case and higher res display. I'd be pissed if I was a current S5 owner.
It must be the convenient screen size, the most popular on earth.
It funny when ever I see a title that has something bad to do with Samsung/Google/Android its 9/10 written by DED.
Like this?
I hear they're planning to release a "premium" S5 with a metal case and higher res display. I'd be pissed if I was a current S5 owner.
Unless they come out with a premium something there "S" line is dead
I like how Apple gets an ultra-negative narratove, vicious analyst reports, and proclamations of doom when it doesn't "grow" as dramatically as some would like- meanwhile, Samsung is actually making LESS profit YoY in the mobile business, yet the narrative is that they're crushing Apple. Hilarious.
You know I always see someone in the comments saying "ultra negative, vicious analyst reports, and proclamations of doom" yet I never actually see these reports. Where are you getting your news?
You know I always see someone in the comments saying "ultra negative, vicious analyst reports, and proclamations of doom" yet I never actually see these reports. Where are you getting your news?
You don't see critical Apple news stories on mainstream media sites? Then you must be fucking blind, purposely obtuse, or a troll. Probably all 3, going by your previous posts.
Just a few recent ones:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/investor/2014/04/24/apple-rotting-from-the-core/
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/apple-quit-steve-jobs/story?id=23424135
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101608060
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/12/opinion/nocera-the-apple-chronicles.html?_r=0
http://www.forbes.com/sites/petercohan/2014/04/07/four-reasons-to-avoid-apple-stock/
I would be pissed if I bought an S5 and then a couple months later a "premium" version hit the shelves.
Exactly! At least announce them at same time like Apple did with 5s and 5c. It just seems like a money grab to release them months apart.
You don't see critical Apple news stories on mainstream media sites? Then you must be fucking blind, purposely obtuse, or a troll. Probably all 3, going by your previous posts.
Trolls like him say nonsense like that just to get a reaction. Apparently, he has no ability to use a service called "Google" to answer his question.
Just a few recent ones:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/investor/2014/04/24/apple-rotting-from-the-core/
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/apple-quit-steve-jobs/story?id=23424135
http://www.cnbc.com/id/101608060
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/12/opinion/nocera-the-apple-chronicles.html?_r=0
Stupidity in all of these news outlets, stick with AI for your Apple news.
You don't see critical Apple news stories on mainstream media sites? Then you must be fucking blind, purposely obtuse, or a troll. Probably all 3, going by your previous posts.
Trolls like him say nonsense like that just to get a reaction. Apparently, he has no ability to use a service called "Google" to answer his question.
I am neither, I don't go to general news websites like abc, forbes, cnbc for my tech news. What do these sites know about tech, they aren't tech enthusiasts. Also whats wrong with my previous posts?
Samsung Electronics reported quarterly operating profits of... $8.2 billion... its second quarterly loss in a row.
Dude, that doesn't make sense.