yeah but scanning a protein shake, or smoothie like they showed can not determine the caloric content of an unknown, but I believe today even for prepared foods they still go through a dehydration process and them burning it to determine the actually caloric content.
BTW I just looked it up they still use the "bomb calorimeter" to measure calories in food unless they know the individually components of food like proteins, fats, carbohydrates and so on and know the weight amount for each then they can use a table as you suggested to determine the total calories. This devices is not weighting anything and I get suspicious of a person who is making claims about their products when you know full well it can not be done. These are the scientists who made the product not some marketing type. They should know better.
Maybe the ad is missing a few steps out perhaps you type or speak in some info first then scan? I am guessing an avocado's skin contain chemicals only present when ripe inside ... and so on.
The magic, if there is any, will be in the database developed. Scan a more on your skin to see if there is no problem, pre-cancer or cancer? There needs to be relevant data available to deliver results to the user.
Fortunately there will be a lot of support for a legitimate product. Dermatologists will be a great group for expanding a database.
I had a similar experience when I worked in a quality control lab at a chemical plant. One of the lab techs was making his own homebrew beer. Remember this was in the 70s when you were considered a massive weirdo if you made your own beer. They ran his beer throughout the Gas Chromatograph and saw all sorts of things that were considered harmful chemicals - aldehydes in particular. Of course those chemicals are responsible for many of the flavors in foods were hold dear. Didn't stop some alarmists from refusing to drink any of his beer. They also ran the beer the the mass spec, but I don't remember what they found there.
If this new device works as hoped, it might provide a way of detecting skunky beer at your sleazier dives. Or Chilis maybe.
The problem with this device will not be in what it can do but in what it cannot. Limited capability will doubtless result in false readings, failure to analyse and a lot of food rejected at the table in restaurants. Havoc might well ensue lol.
If the NIR spectrometry capability is anything close to the above, it will be amazing -- as you can bring the spectrometer to the sample.
And yes, massive amounts of data and data processing are/were involved -- CEC had a DataTape Division (large, dense, fast magnetic tapes); and a Computer Division, ElectroData, that built the DataTron Computer which was later sold to Burroughs Corp.
Burroughs bought the whole deal buildings, plant, equipment -- everything. The Tab Department manager's office looked out on the Burroughs shipping dock -- so we could see whenever Burroughs sold/shipped [Sammy take note] a computer -- maybe, 2-3 in the two years I worked at CEC.
Mass spectrometry has been described the ultimate analytical tool for the technique's ability to discern substances down to not just the atomic level but to the level of distinguishing isotopes of single elements. This is the particular strength of magnetic sector mass spectrometers but these carry a penalty of requiring massive magnets, required to cause fractionation of the isotopes, particularly heavier ones such as lead. (The four stable isotopes of lead occur in slightly different abundances in nature in different locations and so, a magnetic sector mass spectrometer can not only identify lead but from which mine around the world a sample came.) Less capable mass spectrometers which are never the less fabulously sensitive, such as quadrupole mass spectrometers, still require space imposed by the physics of the process in which to separate and analyse compounds. A gas chromatograph mass spectrometer (GCMS) can be quite compact, however not a miniature device. Thermoscientific (http://www.thermoscientific.com/content/tfs/en/product/msq-plus-single-quadrupole-mass-spectrometer.html) apparently claim their quadrupole MS to be the most compact at 12" wide. Generally too but not always, sample preparation is quite rigorous. One convenient way to prepare a sample however, is to zap it with a IR laser, such as used on Mars rovers. The ejecta (not volcanic but too small to be seen lol) can be studied spectrographically or sampled by a mass spec.
Until the field matures in probably many years time, this tool will cause untold headaches for consumers, food preparers, producers and dispensers.
"Scanners are detecting tetryon particles in the upper tertiary EM band. It could be emissions from a cloaking field masking the warp signature of a vessel."
I kind of got the same feeling, it just did not feel right.
Why? Because they have foreign accents? Wait until they release a working product before passing judgement. I whiff a little anti-Israelitis from you and the bloke you're quoting.
This brings back a memory from the 1960's when my father had just had a massive system like this installed at his company and they were playing with it to learn how to use it. They tested a whole bunch of things but the one that sticks was different alcoholic drinks. It turned out that the best and most expensive brandy contained by far the most organic poisons (excluding C2H5OH that is lol), presumably from the oak caskets. The cheaper the booze the less harmful chemicals were found. I never fail to think of this when sipping a brandy!
Brilliant! So the moral is—the tastier your drink, the more organic poisons you need. Sounds about right to me.
To be honest, when I was about 8 or 9, I used to have dreams of people wearing these bands on their wrists or throats. Crystals in the lining would analyze light off the skin and determine the health of the person -- their chemistry, not just heart rate and respiration, and pick up on their brain waves to detect sleep or excitation.
I so would have loved to be a scientist involved in such things and I wish I could afford to buy something like this for my kids.
Anyway, the point to such a device was to create a "health alert" device -- it could be used to detect whether something you were about to eat or interact with would be healthy or harmful, and it could be used to sense danger for the person and alert authorities. It basically wiped out muggings and personal attacks as a system.
I wouldn't trust today's law enforcement with this -- they are too busy being a revenue source and going after people using drugs who happen to be in the section of town where they bust people for using drugs -- pay no attention the people who can AFFORD drugs and use them with abandon.
The thing about introducing a cheap spectrometer to society is that it can be used to collect real-time health data, and nutrition information, and with a large enough database, discover things that we didn't know we didn't know. Like perhaps modern plastics and cows milk are behind 90% of all cancers (or not?) If you had enough people using these things all the time -- you would have basically everyone participating in a real-world lab. The discoveries for human health would eclipse everything done before in a few short years.
I'm fairly sure we will find that people are better off with a bit more bacteria, and trying to get rid of the ones that we are adapted to, results in allergies - things of that nature will be proven yeah or nay.
On the other hand; we have no infrastructure to protect privacy or advocate for health. Whatever is gleaned will be get a corporate secrete and doled out as an expensive treatment. If baking soda and a healthy diet can cure cancer -- you won't have it acknowledged. I wasn't born a conspiracy theorist, it's human nature in the USA that has brought me to the realization that scum rises to the top of the pond -- not cream. I'd love to have this device AFTER it is free from someone else's cloud and perhaps anonymized and open source. Until then, you are paying to be someone's lab rat.
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Maybe the ad is missing a few steps out perhaps you type or speak in some info first then scan? I am guessing an avocado's skin contain chemicals only present when ripe inside ... and so on.
I'd probably find out half my co-workers are snorting coke.
Lol
Beware of karma!
LOL
Or, Wow -- That girl is hot -- only 97% water ...
Fortunately there will be a lot of support for a legitimate product. Dermatologists will be a great group for expanding a database.
I had a similar experience when I worked in a quality control lab at a chemical plant. One of the lab techs was making his own homebrew beer. Remember this was in the 70s when you were considered a massive weirdo if you made your own beer. They ran his beer throughout the Gas Chromatograph and saw all sorts of things that were considered harmful chemicals - aldehydes in particular. Of course those chemicals are responsible for many of the flavors in foods were hold dear. Didn't stop some alarmists from refusing to drink any of his beer. They also ran the beer the the mass spec, but I don't remember what they found there.
If this new device works as hoped, it might provide a way of detecting skunky beer at your sleazier dives. Or Chilis maybe.
The problem with this device will not be in what it can do but in what it cannot. Limited capability will doubtless result in false readings, failure to analyse and a lot of food rejected at the table in restaurants. Havoc might well ensue lol.
Was that a mass spectrometer from:
Consolidated Electrodynamics Corporation
300 North Sierra Madre Boulevard
Pasadena, California 91024 *
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consolidated_Engineering_Corporation
If the NIR spectrometry capability is anything close to the above, it will be amazing -- as you can bring the spectrometer to the sample.
And yes, massive amounts of data and data processing are/were involved -- CEC had a DataTape Division (large, dense, fast magnetic tapes); and a Computer Division, ElectroData, that built the DataTron Computer which was later sold to Burroughs Corp.
Burroughs bought the whole deal buildings, plant, equipment -- everything. The Tab Department manager's office looked out on the Burroughs shipping dock -- so we could see whenever Burroughs sold/shipped [Sammy take note] a computer -- maybe, 2-3 in the two years I worked at CEC.
Mass spectrometry has been described the ultimate analytical tool for the technique's ability to discern substances down to not just the atomic level but to the level of distinguishing isotopes of single elements. This is the particular strength of magnetic sector mass spectrometers but these carry a penalty of requiring massive magnets, required to cause fractionation of the isotopes, particularly heavier ones such as lead. (The four stable isotopes of lead occur in slightly different abundances in nature in different locations and so, a magnetic sector mass spectrometer can not only identify lead but from which mine around the world a sample came.) Less capable mass spectrometers which are never the less fabulously sensitive, such as quadrupole mass spectrometers, still require space imposed by the physics of the process in which to separate and analyse compounds. A gas chromatograph mass spectrometer (GCMS) can be quite compact, however not a miniature device. Thermoscientific (http://www.thermoscientific.com/content/tfs/en/product/msq-plus-single-quadrupole-mass-spectrometer.html) apparently claim their quadrupole MS to be the most compact at 12" wide. Generally too but not always, sample preparation is quite rigorous. One convenient way to prepare a sample however, is to zap it with a IR laser, such as used on Mars rovers. The ejecta (not volcanic but too small to be seen lol) can be studied spectrographically or sampled by a mass spec.
Until the field matures in probably many years time, this tool will cause untold headaches for consumers, food preparers, producers and dispensers.
This is as startrek as anything gets !
"Scanners are detecting tetryon particles in the upper tertiary EM band. It could be emissions from a cloaking field masking the warp signature of a vessel."
Brilliant! So the moral is—the tastier your drink, the more organic poisons you need. Sounds about right to me.
Forget everything else; if you want to give me a Christmas present -- nothing better than a molecular scanner!
OK, I'll take a Tesla too, as long as I'm making impossible wishes.
Beam me up Scotty.
To be honest, when I was about 8 or 9, I used to have dreams of people wearing these bands on their wrists or throats. Crystals in the lining would analyze light off the skin and determine the health of the person -- their chemistry, not just heart rate and respiration, and pick up on their brain waves to detect sleep or excitation.
I so would have loved to be a scientist involved in such things and I wish I could afford to buy something like this for my kids.
Anyway, the point to such a device was to create a "health alert" device -- it could be used to detect whether something you were about to eat or interact with would be healthy or harmful, and it could be used to sense danger for the person and alert authorities. It basically wiped out muggings and personal attacks as a system.
I wouldn't trust today's law enforcement with this -- they are too busy being a revenue source and going after people using drugs who happen to be in the section of town where they bust people for using drugs -- pay no attention the people who can AFFORD drugs and use them with abandon.
The thing about introducing a cheap spectrometer to society is that it can be used to collect real-time health data, and nutrition information, and with a large enough database, discover things that we didn't know we didn't know. Like perhaps modern plastics and cows milk are behind 90% of all cancers (or not?) If you had enough people using these things all the time -- you would have basically everyone participating in a real-world lab. The discoveries for human health would eclipse everything done before in a few short years.
I'm fairly sure we will find that people are better off with a bit more bacteria, and trying to get rid of the ones that we are adapted to, results in allergies - things of that nature will be proven yeah or nay.
On the other hand; we have no infrastructure to protect privacy or advocate for health. Whatever is gleaned will be get a corporate secrete and doled out as an expensive treatment. If baking soda and a healthy diet can cure cancer -- you won't have it acknowledged. I wasn't born a conspiracy theorist, it's human nature in the USA that has brought me to the realization that scum rises to the top of the pond -- not cream. I'd love to have this device AFTER it is free from someone else's cloud and perhaps anonymized and open source. Until then, you are paying to be someone's lab rat.
This is as startrek as anything gets !
But only if it makes the sounds from the app while scanning!!
Yep, it also explains the headache you get from the finer booze.
Yep, it also explains the headache you get from the finer booze.
I find that beer gives me much worse headaches than wine, which might throw a spanner in your theory.