Apple renews exclusive rights to Liquidmetal in consumer products into 2015

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in General Discussion edited May 2014
According to an SEC document filed on Wednesday, Apple and Liquidmetal have entered a deal to extend an exclusive license to use the exotic metal in consumer products through Feb. 2015, marking the second time the companies decided to prolong their mutual agreement.

SIM ejector
iPhone 3G SIM card ejector tool. Photo via Flickr user Jamie McCall.


The Securities and Exchange Commission filing notes the companies entered into a second amendment to the original exclusive rights deal first signed in August 2010, which was itself extended in 2012 under a first amendment.

Until now, Apple's most public use of Liquidmetal -- the commercial name for a special bulk amorphous alloy -- has been limited to a SIM card ejector tool, though it is feasible that the material may already be in use in small unseen internal device parts.

In 2012, the inventor of Liquidmetal, Dr. Atakan Peker, said Apple was two to four years away from mass producing the alloy for large scale projects like chassis parts for an iPhone or iPad. At the time, Peker said there is "no suitable manufacturing infrastructure yet to take full advantage of this alloy technology."

Liquidmetal is classified as an amorphous, non-crystalline material and is some 2.5 times stronger than titanium alloy commonly used in consumer products. The alloy is also 1.5 times harder than stainless steel found in portable electronic devices. Before Apple's exclusive license, Liquidmetal was first hit consumer products in 2003 in medical equipment, sporting goods and special applications by the U.S. Department of Defense.

The new agreement gives Apple another year of exclusivity before patent rights revert back to Crucible Intellectual Property, a wholly-owned subsidiary of Liquidmetal Technologies.
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  • Reply 1 of 33
    Great, so what does this mean for LQMT tomorrow morning? To the moon!!!!
  • Reply 2 of 33
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member

    Besides a tiny SIM tray, Apple hasn't really made much use of Liquidmetal yet.

     

    They obviously have bigger plans for it, or they wouldn't have extended the agreement.

  • Reply 3 of 33
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    Omega made a watch using liquid metal, although it was a limited edition so maybe they don't make them any more.

    http://www.omegawatches.com/planet-omega/watchmaking/liquidmetal
  • Reply 4 of 33
    apple ][apple ][ Posts: 9,233member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post



    Omega made a watch using liquid metal, although it was a limited edition so maybe they don't make them any more.



    http://www.omegawatches.com/planet-omega/watchmaking/liquidmetal

    They don't make them anymore. Not many were ever made.

     

    I see some going on ebay for around 7-8 K USD.

  • Reply 5 of 33
    suddenly newtonsuddenly newton Posts: 13,819member
    I can't wait for my next liquid metal SIM card ejector tool! /s
  • Reply 6 of 33
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member

    Looking forward to a fully Liquidmetal electric car.

  • Reply 7 of 33
    irelandireland Posts: 17,800member
    Seems odd to only renew for 1 year if this is for iWatch. I don't get it.
  • Reply 8 of 33
    SpamSandwichSpamSandwich Posts: 33,407member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post



    Seems odd to only renew for 1 year if this is for iWatch. I don't get it.

     

    That might be a restriction set by the licensing company, not Apple.

  • Reply 9 of 33
    melgrossmelgross Posts: 33,641member
    I remember all of the people who authoritatively stated that the good doctor, who after all, invented this, didn't know what he was talking about because he said it was a few years away. Well, here we are, part way through those few years, and as far as we know, nothing yet.
  • Reply 10 of 33
    mechanicmechanic Posts: 805member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Ireland View Post



    Seems odd to only renew for 1 year if this is for iWatch. I don't get it.

    Apple has an exclusive license forever for use of liquid metal in electronic devices. These extensions are a separate agreement for apple and liquid metal to form a joint company to develop manufacturing processes to make parts.  Once the tech to manufacture parts in liquid metal is developed and paid for by apple the manufacturing goes back to liquid metal. But Apple keeps the rights forever for use in the electronic devices. 

    Its the same deal there doing with GTE and sapphire.  Apple is paying for the development and processes of making parts in sapphire with GTE and in return they get first dibs at using sapphire.  GTE who could not afford to develop manufacturing gets the plants and mass production tools they need.  They then pay apple back for the investment.  Same thing with liquid metal.  Apple gets permanent use rights in electronic devices and liquid metal gets the manufacturing plants and tools for use for everything else basically for free.

  • Reply 11 of 33
    shogunshogun Posts: 362member
    ireland wrote: »
    Seems odd to only renew for 1 year if this is for iWatch. I don't get it.

    The agreement is not the window of time in which they can use lqmt, but rather the window of time in which all patents and discoveries by Apple and lqmt themselves are mutually usable. For example, in February of this year, right after the timeframe for the last agreement expired lqmt came out with a new formula that didn't use beryllium, a very toxic substance. Now that the agreement's been extended Apple can have full access to that new recipe, my understanding is, forever. Additionally they already have a forever exclusivity agreement on lqmt in consumer electronics.
  • Reply 12 of 33
    tallest skiltallest skil Posts: 43,388member

    Maybe by then Apple will create a product that uses it. :no:

  • Reply 13 of 33
    mechanicmechanic Posts: 805member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

     

    Maybe by then Apple will create a product that uses it. :no:


    Would be nice to see something other than a sim ejector tool lol!

  • Reply 14 of 33
    ajbdtc826ajbdtc826 Posts: 190member
    So it's only for 1 more year? Seems to me like something else is being developed but needs more time before Apple can move onto it. They've done it with GorillaGlass and even Foxconn! They have no loyalty unless they don't have a better idea.
  • Reply 15 of 33
    dunksdunks Posts: 1,254member

    It could be argued that technically a sim ejector tool is not itself an "electronic" device.

  • Reply 16 of 33
    MacProMacPro Posts: 19,851member
    mechanic wrote: »
    Apple has an exclusive license forever for use of liquid metal in electronic devices. These extensions are a separate agreement for apple and liquid metal to form a joint company to develop manufacturing processes to make parts.  Once the tech to manufacture parts in liquid metal is developed and paid for by apple the manufacturing goes back to liquid metal. But Apple keeps the rights forever for use in the electronic devices. 
    Its the same deal there doing with GTE and sapphire.  Apple is paying for the development and processes of making parts in sapphire with GTE and in return they get first dibs at using sapphire.  GTE who could not afford to develop manufacturing gets the plants and mass production tools they need.  They then pay apple back for the investment.  Same thing with liquid metal.  Apple gets permanent use rights in electronic devices and liquid metal gets the manufacturing plants and tools for use for everything else basically for free.

    I invested in GTAT, looking forward to that taking off.
  • Reply 17 of 33
    curtis hannahcurtis hannah Posts: 1,834member
    I wondered years back would the iPhone 6 be rather then aluminum/plastic/glass(or this point sapphire) case it could be liquid metal, still seems possible?
  • Reply 18 of 33
    hill60hill60 Posts: 6,992member
    It never seems to age, here is the ejector tool I've used since 2008 on thousands of iPads and iPhones, it's a bit scratched and bent with no sign of any corrosion.

    [IMG]http://forums.appleinsider.com/content/type/61/id/43525/width/200/height/400[/IMG]
  • Reply 19 of 33
    danoxdanox Posts: 3,417member

    Real innovation in hardware and software research takes time particularity if you want to be ahead of the competition and make a profit from it, the hot air companies like Google, Netflix, and Amazon are running on vaporware and Wall Street continues to lap it up.

     

    Long AAPL, ARMH, GTAT, and LQMT.

  • Reply 20 of 33
    I still have mine from 2009
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