Every new iPhone and iPad expected to ship with Touch ID in 2014

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  • Reply 21 of 41
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    One would hope. I was surprised that the iPad Air and the mini did not have Touch ID. From my view apple is a year late on this tech no brainer.
    I love how people just assume things are a no brainer. I'm curious what information you have that allows you to confidently say adding Touch ID to iPads last year was a no brainer?
  • Reply 22 of 41
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    andysol wrote: »
    I expected it. I don't plan on a 9.7" device to sell for $499 vs a $649 phone and have the exact same technology.

    Improved Camera, Touch ID, and Cell chip don't = $150. Granted, a cellular model is $629 for iPad Air or $529 for iPad mini vs $649 iPhone- but that doesn't take into account the higher costs for iPad screen, battery, aluminum, etc.

    Just a fair warning- prepare yourself for a feature the iPhone 6 will have that the new 2014 iPad Air won't.
    I get the feeling this year we will see the reverse as well - some features on the iPad that aren't on the iPhone. Like if Apple brings split screen multi tasking to iOS. I suspect that will be iPad only as it doesn't really make sense on a smaller screen.
  • Reply 23 of 41
    andysolandysol Posts: 2,506member
    rogifan wrote: »
    I get the feeling this year we will see the reverse as well - some features on the iPad that aren't on the iPhone. Like if Apple brings split screen multi tasking to iOS. I suspect that will be iPad only as it doesn't really make sense on a smaller screen.

    That's software not hardware. No different than gestures currently.
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  • Reply 27 of 41
    rogifanrogifan Posts: 10,669member
    andysol wrote: »
    That's software not hardware. No different than gestures currently.
    True. What hardware (besides camera) do you expect in the iPhone but not iPad? Better display?
  • Reply 28 of 41
    andysolandysol Posts: 2,506member
    rogifan wrote: »
    True. What hardware (besides camera) do you expect in the iPhone but not iPad? Better display?

    Who knows. Those are two solid guesses, but if I'm not mistaken, we didn't get solid touch sensor rumors until just before launch- and def. not the simplicity that was the final product. So as we get closer, we'll know more. The screen could be such an improvement that alone will do it.

    Also, depending on which of these rumors pan out for WWDC, if any- it could be something exclusive for home automation or Mobile payments? Maybe Beats speakers :lol:
  • Reply 29 of 41
    flaneurflaneur Posts: 4,526member
    One would hope. I was surprised that the iPad Air and the mini did not have Touch ID. From my view apple is a year late on this tech no brainer.

    Where did you think the extra sensor assemblies were going to come from? Oh, that's right, your view is a no brainer.
  • Reply 30 of 41
    curtis hannahcurtis hannah Posts: 1,832member
    It be wrong if Apple was to keep it on iPhone and not other devices, it could be on macs at some point really.
  • Reply 31 of 41
    aaronjaaronj Posts: 1,595member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post



    So many times I've been caught out holding my finger on the home button of my iPad waiting expectantly for it to unlock.



    After getting used to it on my iPhone 5s it is something I would upgrade for.

     

    I am SO glad I'm not the only who finds himself doing that! :)

  • Reply 32 of 41
    benjamin frostbenjamin frost Posts: 7,203member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Entropys View Post



    Personally, I would like this obvious outcome to add something interesting, like changing the profile of the iPhone/iPad depending on who activates it using Touch ID.



    So when the kids get given it as a modern day pacifier, it would automatically open up with restrictions that aren't there if mum was to put her pinky on it.

    Just buy separate iPads; don't be so penny-pinching.

  • Reply 33 of 41
    benjamin frostbenjamin frost Posts: 7,203member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by djkikrome View Post



    This is a welcome thing if they will get the damn iPads setup for multiple users finally. I'm tired of hearing my kids crying about who did what on what app. It gets old.



    Guess Apple wants each kid to have one but not happening at the current prices. Just want multiple user accounts finally.

    Don't be so cheap.

  • Reply 34 of 41
    benjamin frostbenjamin frost Posts: 7,203member
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

     
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by djkikrome View Post



    This is a welcome thing if they will get the damn iPads setup for multiple users finally. I'm tired of hearing my kids crying about who did what on what app. It gets old.




    1) There is still the issue of how accounts will be sandboxed and the current app design doesn't look to accommodate a single app with multiple user account saved data and settings. I'm not saying it can't be done but there are logistical issues, as well as performance and battery life considerations to be made.



    2) Apple says Touch ID's security is 1 in 50,000. I have no idea how they came to that conclusion. I understand how a 4-digit pin with 10 numbers to choose from is 1:10,000, but not TouchID's level of security. But I digress, I'm curious if at 1 in 50,000 and with sales of over 100 million units in just the next year that could get Touch ID the likely looking that a 1 in 50,000 chance for this convince feature to be triggered by some other family member under that multi-user setup becomes a certainty, based on the odds. Now Apple could make TouchID more sensitive in the next iteration, like 1 in 100,000 or 500,000 but that lowers the starting odds, it does not erase them. So why is this an issue, even if remote? For the same reason that you can't simply type in your password on a Mac/Windows to get to your user account. You also need to input your username because there is a chance — no matter how remote — that someone could have the same password as you. For that reason I don't think you'll ever see multi-user on an iOS-based device that doesn't first have you select your user account before you use TouchID to access the account. However, I doubt we'll see multiple users on iDevices simply because these are the most "personal computers" and Apple would lose profits as well as spending profits to work on a fledge of a solution which is simply not their goal until they forced to, which currently doesn't seem to be the case.

    You don't need to type your username in OS X; only your password.

  • Reply 35 of 41
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Four digits with ten numbers is actually 1in 9,999, but you're close enough.

    You didn't count 0000.
  • Reply 36 of 41
    benjamin frostbenjamin frost Posts: 7,203member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by AaronJ View Post

     
    Quote:
    Originally Posted by hill60 View Post



    So many times I've been caught out holding my finger on the home button of my iPad waiting expectantly for it to unlock.



    After getting used to it on my iPhone 5s it is something I would upgrade for.

     

    I am SO glad I'm not the only who finds himself doing that! :)


    Don't worry; senility hasn't set in...yet.

  • Reply 37 of 41
    benjamin frostbenjamin frost Posts: 7,203member
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

     
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post



    Four digits with ten numbers is actually 1in 9,999, but you're close enough.




    You didn't count 0000.

    I know; that's why I quickly deleted that sentence and changed it in the hope that you wouldn't catch it in time.

  • Reply 38 of 41
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    You don't need to type your username in OS X; only your password.

    You either type your username or it's supplied already. In either case it's not simply a password which was the point of my reply.

    I have my system set up so I have to type in both as an TWO additional means of protection in case it's stolen. The first is having to also know the username and the other is having a dummy account that is easy to access but is highest restricted except for sending me messages of the thief's IP address, screenshots, camera, etc… with user-level LaunchAgents…. assuming I can ever get it working again. It was some old code that doesn't seem to work well with ML and Mavericks and I think my risk level too low to be bothered with fixing it.
  • Reply 39 of 41
    benjamin frostbenjamin frost Posts: 7,203member
    solipsismx wrote: »
    You don't need to type your username in OS X; only your password.

    You either type your username or it's supplied already. In either case it's not simply a password which was the point of my reply.

    I have my system set up so I have to type in both as an TWO additional means of protection in case it's stolen. The first is having to also know the username and the other is having a dummy account that is easy to access but is highest restricted except for sending me messages of the thief's IP address, screenshots, camera, etc… with user-level LaunchAgents…. assuming I can ever get it working again. It was some old code that doesn't seem to work well with ML and Mavericks and I think my risk level too low to be bothered with fixing it.

    Do you use FileVault and a Firmware password? I've heard that FileVault doesn't always play nicely with Time Machine, but that may have been fixed.
  • Reply 40 of 41
    solipsismxsolipsismx Posts: 19,566member
    Do you use FileVault and a Firmware password? I've heard that FileVault doesn't always play nicely with Time Machine, but that may have been fixed.

    I do use FileVualt but not an EFI password. FileVault already forces a login before the system boots up and encrypts everything. I don't think a EFI password offers any real protection since it can be overridden by anyone with access to the HW.
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