As the person immortalized in SolipsismX's signature, you know I have been wondering the same. A top-of-the-line phone with the 4" screen would still be popular, no? Let the current 5S (or re-packaged version of it) be the less expensive model, but make an updated 4". No reason to short-change customers with a preference for a more compact form-factor. (a 5GS?)
You're very wrong here. They aren't going to take the 5s- keep it the same size, internals, and everything- add a plastic caseand change the name to a 6c- TS is right- you're completely insane. Moreover- what do you do next year? Call the "midrange" and "high end" 6 the 6C again? Or does it get to be called the "6CC"? See the lunacy in your thinking?
Why would Apple all of a sudden tthis year change what theyve done every year since the 4? They've never dropped a 2 year old model from their lineup- that becomes the "free" $450 phone- that'll be the 5C. The 5S will either stay in it's current form or become the 5SC and will have a plastic shell. You think Apple didn't want everyone to buy a retina iPhone 4 or 4S? Yet they kept the 3GS around with it's rageddy ole' sd display. You think Apple didn't want everyone to get a 4" phone? Yet they kept that ole' rageddy 4 and 4S around with their sad 3.5" displays. You think Apple didn't want everyone on 64 bit? etc etc etc
But Touch ID- now that's the game changer that will change everything they've ever done. Not screen size, not retina, not 64 bit- but touch ID.
Even though I think you're wrong- dead wrong, in fact- if I agree with you, will you not post about the name until release day? I don't know if I can stand reading an iPhone thread with you littering every single one of them up about the name.
There sure are some high strung drama queens here. Calling me insane for a theory that has the support of most recent rumors? Show me one rumor or link to support your theory. Google 6c and you will see lots of leaks though which mirror what I have been saying for months. One Question for you, what happened to the iPhone 5 when the 5s came out? According to you and TS the iPhone 5 should still be on sale but it isn't. The internal were transplanted into a plastic case and renamed the 5c. So you two are the ones trying to go against precedent not me. Following what happened last year it is pretty logical the 5s internal components will be used in the 5c successor.
If you hate a big screen, what are you going to do, go to Android? Their top tier phones are all 4.7"+. Are you going to go to Windows? Their top tier phone is 4.6".
Time will tell- and I don't see the motivation. I'm sure they've had these discussions ad naseum themselves.
I see the motivation perfectly well.
All those who hate big screens will have only ONE choice, APPLE. So they definitely have a motivation. Make big screen ones to compete with big screen android and windows handsets while keeping a monopoly on small screen phones. The ONLY reason why shamesung and others decide to make BIG screen phones is because they cannot compete with Apple on the small screen playing field. Now that Apple is entering their territory, they're going to continue to lose out even more now that Apple has BOTH markets in the palm of their hands. Why give up something you already have a monopoly on? There's a BIG group of people who would want smaller screen phones. I'm not one of those people, but I know they're out there and Apple isn't foolish enough to leave them out.
There sure are some high strung drama queens here. Calling me insane for a theory that has the support of most recent rumors? Show me one rumor or link to support your theory. Google 6c and you will see lots of leaks though which mirror what I have been saying for months. One Question for you, what happened to the iPhone 5 when the 5s came out? According to you and TS the iPhone 5 should still be on sale but it isn't. The internal were transplanted into a plastic case and renamed the 5c. So you two are the ones trying to go against precedent not me. Following what happened last year it is pretty logical the 5s internal components will be used in the 5c successor.
So you didn't address one of my points and simply said that because rumors say it'll be named the iPhone 6C that's the case? iPhone 4S was the iPhone 5- every rumor said so.
The fact you aren't thinking objectively and for yourself, and you depend on gene Munster to get your knowledge just proves how far removed from logic and reason you are.
All those who hate big screens will have only ONE choice, APPLE. So they definitely have a motivation. Make big screen ones to compete with big screen android and windows handsets while keeping a monopoly on small screen phones. The ONLY reason why shamesung and others decide to make BIG screen phones is because they cannot compete with Apple on the small screen playing field. Now that Apple is entering their territory, they're going to continue to lose out even more now that Apple has BOTH markets in the palm of their hands. Why give up something you already have a monopoly on? There's a BIG group of people who would want smaller screen phones. I'm not one of those people, but I know they're out there and Apple isn't foolish enough to leave them out.
Great points- but let's pretend were in a hypothetical world where there is no 4" iPhone. People upgrading their 4" iPhone will stay with iPhone- the 4.7" model. The only way they could potentially lose is if a droid manufacturer started making a smaller premier phone- one they don't have now. So I could see them keeping it to curb that potential "threat" and keep it at bay. But that's where they factor in dilution of product, margins, ordering. I'm confident they'll make the right choice.
Calling me insane for a theory that has the support of most recent rumors?
No rumor, anywhere, says anything about a 6C being released this year.
Show me one rumor or link to support your theory.
Nah, you. Our “theory” is fact, presented by Apple.
Google…
Nope.
…6c and you will see lots of leaks though which mirror what I have been saying for months.
No leaks, anywhere, say this.
One Question for you, what happened to the iPhone 5 when the 5s came out? According to you and TS the iPhone 5 should still be on sale but it isn't.
The iPhone 5 remains on sale as the iPhone 5C. Whatever’s going on in that head of yours is pretending the iPhone 5S will remain on sale as the iPhone 6C.
So you didn't address one of my points and simply said that because rumors say it'll be named the iPhone 6C that's the case? iPhone 4S was the iPhone 5- every rumor said so.
The fact you aren't thinking objectively and for yourself, and you depend on gene Munster to get your knowledge just proves how far removed from logic and reason you are.
Great points- but let's pretend were in a hypothetical world where there is no 4" iPhone. People upgrading their 4" iPhone will stay with iPhone- the 4.7" model. The only way they could potentially lose is if a droid manufacturer started making a smaller premier phone- one they don't have now. So I could see them keeping it to curb that potential "threat" and keep it at bay. But that's where they factor in dilution of product, margins, ordering. I'm confident they'll make the right choice.
In point of fact I asked you if you and TS are relying on precedent why did Apple stop selling the iPhone 5 when the 5s came out and you chose to ignore that point. The 5c replaced would would have been the 5 in the product matrix just like the 6c will replace the 5s which will be EOL just like the 5 was. I am the one with logic and precedent while you and TS can only hem and haw and stomp your feet like petulant children.
In point of fact I asked you if you and TS are relying on precedent why did Apple stop selling the iPhone 5 when the 5s came out and you chose to ignore that point.
1. Didn’t ignore it.
2. The point’s irrelevant to what we’re discussing.
The 5c replaced would would have been the 5 in the product matrix just like the 6c will replace the 5s
ARE YOU EVEN LISTENING TO YOURSELF. I notice you’re incapable of responding to my point in #43.
But for heaven's sake, shut up the lot of you. Precedent means very little, Apple had never released a "C" phone before the iPhone 5C, and they'd never wholly removed/replaced a flagship model before the iPhone 5 morphed into the 5C. They were precedent breaking moves, and no new trend has yet been established.
Besides which, it's just a goddamn name. Whether it's called 5S, 5SC, 6C, or iPhone Vista, it's all completely unimportant. If the phone design changes; that's what's interesting.
Oh, yes. The one article on one site about one device that doesn’t match any of the other rumors anywhere.
I dearly hope that he wants to use this as his example. I’d be perfectly fine with being “wrong” if he feels that this will actually help his point. Never mind that it also says something completely different about the “6C” than he is claiming.
"wrong" is the same as wrong. No need for the suggestive quotation marks.
Plus, plenty of rumours have talked about two sizes of iPhone being released this year. Granted, few others have played the name game of speculating on how they might be marketed, but since precedent seems to be such a big deal in this thread there is at least some forerunning to the sizing rumour. And those two sizes of iPhone will certainly need to be called something.
But sincerely, who cares. The name(s) are not important.
But for heaven's sake, shut up the lot of you. Precedent means very little, Apple had never released a "C" phone before the iPhone 5C, and they'd never wholly removed/replaced a flagship model before the iPhone 5 morphed into the 5C. They were precedent breaking moves, and no new trend has yet been established.
Besides which, it's just a goddamn name. Whether it's called 5S, 5SC, 6C, or iPhone Vista, it's all completely unimportant. If the phone design changes; that's what's interesting.
In all honesty I really and not bothered what they call the phones. Like you said it is a rather unimportant detail to me and I am more invested in the actual products. Regardless of what they are called, I am comforted in the fact that it will be a YAITSWB iPhone model. (Yet another iPhone TS won't buy) It must really grate on his nerves that a person he called insane and psychotic person is able to buy and activate every new iPhone that is released. Perhaps if he spent less time posting over 20,000 comments on this forum along with Reddit, 9to5, alternative history, and God only know how many other forums and got a job or if he has a job a better paying one then he too could afford the upcoming iPhone and activate it and finally retire his 7 year old hacked dinosaur. Then maybe he would stop being so angry and obsessed with what they will be named.
What he's talking about isn't what you were talking about either. You claimed it was a rumour that hasn't been repeated anywhere else. My counter is that while the specific use of the 6C name may not have shown up elsewhere, the rumour of two models has.
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So why try to intercede in an argument you don’t care about?
Because you whine very loudly about unimportant things and annoy me, obviously.
Does anyone else think the larger 5.5 could be an iTouch wifi-only "phone", a la FaceTime audio only through Bluetooth? Seems too big to put up to your face to make calls.
Does anyone else think the larger 5.5 could be an iTouch wifi-only "phone", a la FaceTime audio only through Bluetooth?
Seems too big to put up to your face to make calls.
No. If it is too big there is speakerphone mode, the headset Apple includes, or 3rd party bluetooth headsets. Not to mention that people talk less and less on their phones now. A 5.5" iPhone would still likely weigh far less than traditional land line phones. Viewing the display takes up far more of the time spent on an iPhone than holding it to your face for voice calls and Apple is aware of this evolution in usage patterns. People that would be attracted to a 5.5" iPhone would probably not be people who spend a great deal of time with voice calls but still require that essential feature.
Times change and Apple is aware of this. Had you said an iPod touch with wifi AND cellular data radios for LTE away from wifi that would have at least been a tad more plausible. I also highly doubt that Apple would make an iPod Touch with a display larger than the iPhone 6.
Icon layout is wrong. It will be no different what's on the iPad. Four across but six down. I'm hoping for edge to edge screen. I also hope this 4.7" will replace the iPhone 5c and 5.5" replace mainstream. Best bet is thinner design. I love the current glass and metal.
They will as the new 6c. It will contain the internal parts of the 5s in a plastic shell. But as far as a new 4" iPhone containing all the latest and greatest tech like the A8...those days are gone.
Currently, the only way to get the latest and greatest tech in an iPhone is to buy a...4" iPhone. So those days are not gone.
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Why does premium-ness correspond to screen size?
As the person immortalized in SolipsismX's signature, you know I have been wondering the same. A top-of-the-line phone with the 4" screen would still be popular, no? Let the current 5S (or re-packaged version of it) be the less expensive model, but make an updated 4". No reason to short-change customers with a preference for a more compact form-factor. (a 5GS?)
You're very wrong here. They aren't going to take the 5s- keep it the same size, internals, and everything- add a plastic caseand change the name to a 6c- TS is right- you're completely insane. Moreover- what do you do next year? Call the "midrange" and "high end" 6 the 6C again? Or does it get to be called the "6CC"? See the lunacy in your thinking?
Why would Apple all of a sudden tthis year change what theyve done every year since the 4? They've never dropped a 2 year old model from their lineup- that becomes the "free" $450 phone- that'll be the 5C. The 5S will either stay in it's current form or become the 5SC and will have a plastic shell. You think Apple didn't want everyone to buy a retina iPhone 4 or 4S? Yet they kept the 3GS around with it's rageddy ole' sd display. You think Apple didn't want everyone to get a 4" phone? Yet they kept that ole' rageddy 4 and 4S around with their sad 3.5" displays. You think Apple didn't want everyone on 64 bit? etc etc etc
But Touch ID- now that's the game changer that will change everything they've ever done. Not screen size, not retina, not 64 bit- but touch ID.
Even though I think you're wrong- dead wrong, in fact- if I agree with you, will you not post about the name until release day? I don't know if I can stand reading an iPhone thread with you littering every single one of them up about the name.
There sure are some high strung drama queens here. Calling me insane for a theory that has the support of most recent rumors? Show me one rumor or link to support your theory. Google 6c and you will see lots of leaks though which mirror what I have been saying for months. One Question for you, what happened to the iPhone 5 when the 5s came out? According to you and TS the iPhone 5 should still be on sale but it isn't. The internal were transplanted into a plastic case and renamed the 5c. So you two are the ones trying to go against precedent not me. Following what happened last year it is pretty logical the 5s internal components will be used in the 5c successor.
If you hate a big screen, what are you going to do, go to Android? Their top tier phones are all 4.7"+. Are you going to go to Windows? Their top tier phone is 4.6".
Time will tell- and I don't see the motivation. I'm sure they've had these discussions ad naseum themselves.I see the motivation perfectly well.
All those who hate big screens will have only ONE choice, APPLE. So they definitely have a motivation. Make big screen ones to compete with big screen android and windows handsets while keeping a monopoly on small screen phones. The ONLY reason why shamesung and others decide to make BIG screen phones is because they cannot compete with Apple on the small screen playing field. Now that Apple is entering their territory, they're going to continue to lose out even more now that Apple has BOTH markets in the palm of their hands. Why give up something you already have a monopoly on? There's a BIG group of people who would want smaller screen phones. I'm not one of those people, but I know they're out there and Apple isn't foolish enough to leave them out.
So you didn't address one of my points and simply said that because rumors say it'll be named the iPhone 6C that's the case? iPhone 4S was the iPhone 5- every rumor said so.
The fact you aren't thinking objectively and for yourself, and you depend on gene Munster to get your knowledge just proves how far removed from logic and reason you are.
Great points- but let's pretend were in a hypothetical world where there is no 4" iPhone. People upgrading their 4" iPhone will stay with iPhone- the 4.7" model. The only way they could potentially lose is if a droid manufacturer started making a smaller premier phone- one they don't have now. So I could see them keeping it to curb that potential "threat" and keep it at bay. But that's where they factor in dilution of product, margins, ordering. I'm confident they'll make the right choice.
Calling me insane for a theory that has the support of most recent rumors?
No rumor, anywhere, says anything about a 6C being released this year.
Nah, you. Our “theory” is fact, presented by Apple.
Nope.
No leaks, anywhere, say this.
The iPhone 5 remains on sale as the iPhone 5C. Whatever’s going on in that head of yours is pretending the iPhone 5S will remain on sale as the iPhone 6C.
So you didn't address one of my points and simply said that because rumors say it'll be named the iPhone 6C that's the case? iPhone 4S was the iPhone 5- every rumor said so.
The fact you aren't thinking objectively and for yourself, and you depend on gene Munster to get your knowledge just proves how far removed from logic and reason you are.
Great points- but let's pretend were in a hypothetical world where there is no 4" iPhone. People upgrading their 4" iPhone will stay with iPhone- the 4.7" model. The only way they could potentially lose is if a droid manufacturer started making a smaller premier phone- one they don't have now. So I could see them keeping it to curb that potential "threat" and keep it at bay. But that's where they factor in dilution of product, margins, ordering. I'm confident they'll make the right choice.
In point of fact I asked you if you and TS are relying on precedent why did Apple stop selling the iPhone 5 when the 5s came out and you chose to ignore that point. The 5c replaced would would have been the 5 in the product matrix just like the 6c will replace the 5s which will be EOL just like the 5 was. I am the one with logic and precedent while you and TS can only hem and haw and stomp your feet like petulant children.
1. Didn’t ignore it.
2. The point’s irrelevant to what we’re discussing.
ARE YOU EVEN LISTENING TO YOURSELF. I notice you’re incapable of responding to my point in #43.
No rumor, anywhere, says anything about a 6C being released this year.
That's a remarkably confident claim. And wrong: http://www.macrumors.com/2014/03/28/drawings-iphone-6c/
Rumours, of course, and unlikely to be true, but your outlandish claim was about the very existence of rumours.
But for heaven's sake, shut up the lot of you. Precedent means very little, Apple had never released a "C" phone before the iPhone 5C, and they'd never wholly removed/replaced a flagship model before the iPhone 5 morphed into the 5C. They were precedent breaking moves, and no new trend has yet been established.
Besides which, it's just a goddamn name. Whether it's called 5S, 5SC, 6C, or iPhone Vista, it's all completely unimportant. If the phone design changes; that's what's interesting.
And wrong: http://www.macrumors.com/2014/03/28/drawings-iphone-6c/
Oh, yes. The one article on one site about one device that doesn’t match any of the other rumors anywhere.
I dearly hope that he wants to use this as his example. I’d be perfectly fine with being “wrong” if he feels that this will actually help his point. Never mind that it also says something completely different about the “6C” than he is claiming.
"wrong" is the same as wrong. No need for the suggestive quotation marks.
Plus, plenty of rumours have talked about two sizes of iPhone being released this year. Granted, few others have played the name game of speculating on how they might be marketed, but since precedent seems to be such a big deal in this thread there is at least some forerunning to the sizing rumour. And those two sizes of iPhone will certainly need to be called something.
But sincerely, who cares. The name(s) are not important.
Plus, plenty of rumours have talked about two sizes of iPhone being released this year.
Which isn’t what he’s talking about.
The name(s) are not important.
So why try to intercede in an argument you don’t care about?
But for heaven's sake, shut up the lot of you. Precedent means very little, Apple had never released a "C" phone before the iPhone 5C, and they'd never wholly removed/replaced a flagship model before the iPhone 5 morphed into the 5C. They were precedent breaking moves, and no new trend has yet been established.
Besides which, it's just a goddamn name. Whether it's called 5S, 5SC, 6C, or iPhone Vista, it's all completely unimportant. If the phone design changes; that's what's interesting.
In all honesty I really and not bothered what they call the phones. Like you said it is a rather unimportant detail to me and I am more invested in the actual products. Regardless of what they are called, I am comforted in the fact that it will be a YAITSWB iPhone model. (Yet another iPhone TS won't buy) It must really grate on his nerves that a person he called insane and psychotic person is able to buy and activate every new iPhone that is released. Perhaps if he spent less time posting over 20,000 comments on this forum along with Reddit, 9to5, alternative history, and God only know how many other forums and got a job or if he has a job a better paying one then he too could afford the upcoming iPhone and activate it and finally retire his 7 year old hacked dinosaur. Then maybe he would stop being so angry and obsessed with what they will be named.
Which isn’t what he’s talking about.
What he's talking about isn't what you were talking about either. You claimed it was a rumour that hasn't been repeated anywhere else. My counter is that while the specific use of the 6C name may not have shown up elsewhere, the rumour of two models has.
So why try to intercede in an argument you don’t care about?
Because you whine very loudly about unimportant things and annoy me, obviously.
What he's talking about isn't what you were talking about either.
That’s news to me! I wasn’t talking about what I was talking about. Cute.
We’re not talking about the rumor of two models.
So maybe be right when replying, then?
Seems too big to put up to your face to make calls.
Does anyone else think the larger 5.5 could be an iTouch wifi-only "phone", a la FaceTime audio only through Bluetooth?
Seems too big to put up to your face to make calls.
No. If it is too big there is speakerphone mode, the headset Apple includes, or 3rd party bluetooth headsets. Not to mention that people talk less and less on their phones now. A 5.5" iPhone would still likely weigh far less than traditional land line phones. Viewing the display takes up far more of the time spent on an iPhone than holding it to your face for voice calls and Apple is aware of this evolution in usage patterns. People that would be attracted to a 5.5" iPhone would probably not be people who spend a great deal of time with voice calls but still require that essential feature.
Times change and Apple is aware of this. Had you said an iPod touch with wifi AND cellular data radios for LTE away from wifi that would have at least been a tad more plausible. I also highly doubt that Apple would make an iPod Touch with a display larger than the iPhone 6.
Currently, the only way to get the latest and greatest tech in an iPhone is to buy a...4" iPhone. So those days are not gone.