Sample questions -- I can't give exact questions, but these are good representations.
1. What added features/functionality are found in Mac OS X Server, as compared with the "standard" Mac OS X?
2. What's another not frequently mentioned, officially unsupported use of the iPod?
Both of the above are very close to actual questions that were asked.
As for how I applied, I just used the jobs section of Apple's website. Normally I wouldn't have had much hope of it actually succeeding, but I had read (on these forums, I think!) an account of someone else having success just by applying the "conventional" way, through the Apple website.
<strong>I would bet that most people on this board could qualify to work for an Apple store. I dont know if a lot of us could be considered geniuses, but there are some.
Applenut
Programmer
Dorsal
Time
Sizzle Chest
MichaelM800
Fran441
apple.otaku
Too many more to name here. Those just came to mind.
I think you will do fine.</strong><hr></blockquote>
why don't you add jyd to that list?
friendly fun jyd <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
sizzle, time and michael? i don't think so.
the rest can stay however i don't think dorsal exists, i think he is the g5
[quote]1. What added features/functionality are found in Mac OS X Server, as compared with the "standard" Mac OS X?<hr></blockquote>
This seems like an uncharacteristically hard question. I can really only think of a few things. A few network daemons have been tweaked and/or replaced with Apple alternatives. Server Admin adds GUI control to stuff like NFS, SMB, IPFirewall, Mail services and Web services. Netboot and Macintosh Manager are included...and a hefty price tag.
If I was Apple, I wouldn't really expect a Mac Genius hopeful to know about a $1000 OS he has probably never used in person.
Of course I'm sure people would have questions about productivity apps like Final Cut Pro and DVD Studio Pro...two apps I have never actually used in depth, and know virtually nothing about.
This seems like an uncharacteristically hard question. I can really only think of a few things. A few network daemons have been tweaked and/or replaced with Apple alternatives. Server Admin adds GUI control to stuff like NFS, SMB, IPFirewall, Mail services and Web services. Netboot and Macintosh Manager are included...and a hefty price tag.
If I was Apple, I wouldn't really expect a Mac Genius hopeful to know about a $1000 OS he has probably never used in person.
Of course I'm sure people would have questions about productivity apps like Final Cut Pro and DVD Studio Pro...two apps I have never actually used in depth, and know virtually nothing about.</strong><hr></blockquote>
eh.. you just answered it. it's basically os x with a bunch of gui controls strapped on top to make it an easier to use 'server' os.
i hope that's not as hard as they get, thost questions were really easy, although i do realize they were only watered down samples, good luck dude at the next stage
It's not hard because it's complex. It's hard because it's obscure. OS X Server is something many of us will never deal with. Whereas there's a Final Cut Pro station at the Apple Store, there is no OS X Server station I'm aware of.
[quote]Originally posted by DisgruntledQS733Owner:
<strong>
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha. Hahahahahahahaha. Oh man. You'll have to excuse me....Gfahahahahahahahahaha. Hahahahahahaha. Hahahhahahaha. That's a good one. MichaelM8000 a Mac genius. Or is it jeehniyus? Jeanyus maybe? Thanks, Macintosh. That was very, very funny. And to MichaelM8000, for the love of God, give your posts a once (read: thrice) over before you submit them. Honestly, I'd be embarrassed if I were you.
I don't think you are doing Apple any "favors" by not telling specific questions. If they didn't want you to tell, don't you think they would have stated this? It's not as though they know you know that Apple likes to be secretive. I can't see any major company making such assumptions, even if the "mac geniuses" are suppose to be macgeeks who know about company practices.
<strong>I don't think you are doing Apple any "favors" by not telling specific questions. If they didn't want you to tell, don't you think they would have stated this? It's not as though they know you know that Apple likes to be secretive. I can't see any major company making such assumptions, even if the "mac geniuses" are suppose to be macgeeks who know about company practices.</strong><hr></blockquote>
apparantly they haven't made him sign an NDA yet but everyone I have talked to had to sign an NDA while going through the interview/hiring process and maintain it while they are employed by Apple.
Well I am not applying for a job at Apple but I would like to know about the clutches in a PB. Could somebody please explain them to me?
</strong><hr></blockquote>
Nothing really. Apple calls the hinges for the PowerBook screens "clutches" ... WallStreet PowerBooks had particularly weak ones that would eventually crack and cause the screen to go loose.
Yeah, about the NDA, since you Mac geniuses probably get the inside scoop on future hardware and software from Apple, do they have you go through some sort of NDA ceremony as part of the hiring process?
I'm thinking of a firelight ceremony with lots of chanting, incantations, culminating in the sacrifice of someone who "spilled the beans" on unannounced Apple products, with Steve Jobs swearing you all in and then the bloodletting and bodily fluid oaths to prepare you for such sensitive knowledge. And of course all of the ceremony participants are entirely naked.
ahh, but since you would be sworn to secrecy, you couldn't tell us about the part of the ceremony where they have everyone suck Steve Jobs, uh, well, you know, his lil' genius! Then there's the elephant trains, bobbing for bitten Apples, and the disappearing cherry on the anus tricks!
Sort of a cross between rushing a frat and induction into a satanic cult.
<strong>Yeah, about the NDA, since you Mac geniuses probably get the inside scoop on future hardware and software from Apple, do they have you go through some sort of NDA ceremony as part of the hiring process?
</strong><hr></blockquote>
I doubt they know any more than the sales people, which is next to nothing (in regards to future stuff). What benefit would there be to telling them about future products? So they could drop hints if pressed by customers?
I doubt they know any more than the sales people, which is next to nothing (in regards to future stuff). What benefit would there be to telling them about future products? So they could drop hints if pressed by customers?</strong><hr></blockquote>
the only reason they occasioanlly know more than anyone else is because the new machines/orders show up in their systems early.
that's how word of the dual 1Ghz release leaked. An Apple Store employee saw the order and delivery date in the system
<strong>I don't think you are doing Apple any "favors" by not telling specific questions. If they didn't want you to tell, don't you think they would have stated this? It's not as though they know you know that Apple likes to be secretive. I can't see any major company making such assumptions, even if the "mac geniuses" are suppose to be macgeeks who know about company practices.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hrmph. I know, and I generally hold this point of view, too, but like . . . I want this job. Plus, I haven't been hired. Suppose I share a few questions, then the answers emerge (which should take a few minutes on here), and this thread is being read by others who are up against me for a Mac Genius gig at the same store. Suppose they learn stuff they didn't know before, and through a complex, cosmic chain of events, they end up getting the gig over me . . . and it's all because I had to run my stupid mouth on here.
Petty, perhaps, but I WANT this job, and that kind of paranoia actually doesn't seem unreasonable right now. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
Now, if I get it, then sure . . . I'll spill the beans. Unless I'm made to sign an NDA that covers the pre-interview process, too. (And knowing Apple, anything's possible.)
Hell, I got scared on Friday when I never got the e-mail with the PDFs attached that I was promised. I started fearing that maybe they saw me posting on here (I had at one point mentioned visiting Mac web sites -- "forums," specifically), and changed their mind. Turns out it was DSL problems (the person who interviewed me is working from home, I guess, on a VPN), and I got the application today. Yes, as you might imagine, even the job application carries the standard Apple elegance. They have a couple of unique elements, too -- for instance, under each job listing in the "previous employment" section, they ask, "Could you have remained in the employment of this company if you so desired?" And the standard optional Affirmative Action page is titled "Invitation to Self Identify." Elegant.
They also sent along a release form seeking my permission for them to get a credit history on me. Is this starting to be par for the course? I had to do this for a former job, but that was at a brokerage firm, so I figured it was unique to that industry.
Anyhoo, the in-person interview is on Wednesday evening at the Newark Hilton. Ooooh, Newark! Classy!
Comments
Just curious.
Good luck!
1. What added features/functionality are found in Mac OS X Server, as compared with the "standard" Mac OS X?
2. What's another not frequently mentioned, officially unsupported use of the iPod?
Both of the above are very close to actual questions that were asked.
As for how I applied, I just used the jobs section of Apple's website. Normally I wouldn't have had much hope of it actually succeeding, but I had read (on these forums, I think!) an account of someone else having success just by applying the "conventional" way, through the Apple website.
<strong>I would bet that most people on this board could qualify to work for an Apple store. I dont know if a lot of us could be considered geniuses, but there are some.
Applenut
Programmer
Dorsal
Time
Sizzle Chest
MichaelM800
Fran441
apple.otaku
Too many more to name here. Those just came to mind.
I think you will do fine.</strong><hr></blockquote>
friendly fun jyd <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
sizzle, time and michael? i don't think so.
the rest can stay
This seems like an uncharacteristically hard question. I can really only think of a few things. A few network daemons have been tweaked and/or replaced with Apple alternatives. Server Admin adds GUI control to stuff like NFS, SMB, IPFirewall, Mail services and Web services. Netboot and Macintosh Manager are included...and a hefty price tag.
If I was Apple, I wouldn't really expect a Mac Genius hopeful to know about a $1000 OS he has probably never used in person.
Of course I'm sure people would have questions about productivity apps like Final Cut Pro and DVD Studio Pro...two apps I have never actually used in depth, and know virtually nothing about.
<strong>
This seems like an uncharacteristically hard question. I can really only think of a few things. A few network daemons have been tweaked and/or replaced with Apple alternatives. Server Admin adds GUI control to stuff like NFS, SMB, IPFirewall, Mail services and Web services. Netboot and Macintosh Manager are included...and a hefty price tag.
If I was Apple, I wouldn't really expect a Mac Genius hopeful to know about a $1000 OS he has probably never used in person.
Of course I'm sure people would have questions about productivity apps like Final Cut Pro and DVD Studio Pro...two apps I have never actually used in depth, and know virtually nothing about.</strong><hr></blockquote>
eh.. you just answered it. it's basically os x with a bunch of gui controls strapped on top to make it an easier to use 'server' os.
i hope that's not as hard as they get, thost questions were really easy, although i do realize they were only watered down samples, good luck dude at the next stage
<strong>
Bwahahahahahahahahahaha. Hahahahahahahaha. Oh man. You'll have to excuse me....Gfahahahahahahahahaha. Hahahahahahaha. Hahahhahahaha. That's a good one. MichaelM8000 a Mac genius. Or is it jeehniyus? Jeanyus maybe? Thanks, Macintosh. That was very, very funny. And to MichaelM8000, for the love of God, give your posts a once (read: thrice) over before you submit them. Honestly, I'd be embarrassed if I were you.
-DisgruntledQS733Owner</strong><hr></blockquote>
You are an ass.
<a href="http://www.apple.com/myths/"; target="_blank">click</a>
<strong>I don't think you are doing Apple any "favors" by not telling specific questions. If they didn't want you to tell, don't you think they would have stated this? It's not as though they know you know that Apple likes to be secretive. I can't see any major company making such assumptions, even if the "mac geniuses" are suppose to be macgeeks who know about company practices.</strong><hr></blockquote>
apparantly they haven't made him sign an NDA yet but everyone I have talked to had to sign an NDA while going through the interview/hiring process and maintain it while they are employed by Apple.
<strong>You should know what a PowerBook's clutches are... etc etc...</strong><hr></blockquote>
Well I am not applying for a job at Apple but I would like to know about the clutches in a PB. Could somebody please explain them to me?
<img src="confused.gif" border="0">
[quote] 2. What's another not frequently mentioned, officially unsupported use of the iPod? <hr></blockquote>
Playing Breakout? Using one of those organizer apps? Cleaning your teeth? Chucking it at people you dislike?
I knew the answer to #1 because I read books like "Mac OS X: The Complete Reference".
:::Sigh:::
When I go to apply for a job at apple, they will most likely tell me to take my A+ certification. and shove it
<strong>
Well I am not applying for a job at Apple but I would like to know about the clutches in a PB. Could somebody please explain them to me?
Nothing really. Apple calls the hinges for the PowerBook screens "clutches" ... WallStreet PowerBooks had particularly weak ones that would eventually crack and cause the screen to go loose.
A: S/he only uses Macs.
I'm thinking of a firelight ceremony with lots of chanting, incantations, culminating in the sacrifice of someone who "spilled the beans" on unannounced Apple products, with Steve Jobs swearing you all in and then the bloodletting and bodily fluid oaths to prepare you for such sensitive knowledge. And of course all of the ceremony participants are entirely naked.
ahh, but since you would be sworn to secrecy, you couldn't tell us about the part of the ceremony where they have everyone suck Steve Jobs, uh, well, you know, his lil' genius! Then there's the elephant trains, bobbing for bitten Apples, and the disappearing cherry on the anus tricks!
Sort of a cross between rushing a frat and induction into a satanic cult.
<strong>Yeah, about the NDA, since you Mac geniuses probably get the inside scoop on future hardware and software from Apple, do they have you go through some sort of NDA ceremony as part of the hiring process?
</strong><hr></blockquote>
I doubt they know any more than the sales people, which is next to nothing (in regards to future stuff). What benefit would there be to telling them about future products? So they could drop hints if pressed by customers?
<strong>
I doubt they know any more than the sales people, which is next to nothing (in regards to future stuff). What benefit would there be to telling them about future products? So they could drop hints if pressed by customers?</strong><hr></blockquote>
the only reason they occasioanlly know more than anyone else is because the new machines/orders show up in their systems early.
that's how word of the dual 1Ghz release leaked. An Apple Store employee saw the order and delivery date in the system
<strong>I don't think you are doing Apple any "favors" by not telling specific questions. If they didn't want you to tell, don't you think they would have stated this? It's not as though they know you know that Apple likes to be secretive. I can't see any major company making such assumptions, even if the "mac geniuses" are suppose to be macgeeks who know about company practices.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Hrmph. I know, and I generally hold this point of view, too, but like . . . I want this job. Plus, I haven't been hired. Suppose I share a few questions, then the answers emerge (which should take a few minutes on here), and this thread is being read by others who are up against me for a Mac Genius gig at the same store. Suppose they learn stuff they didn't know before, and through a complex, cosmic chain of events, they end up getting the gig over me . . . and it's all because I had to run my stupid mouth on here.
Petty, perhaps, but I WANT this job, and that kind of paranoia actually doesn't seem unreasonable right now. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
Now, if I get it, then sure . . . I'll spill the beans. Unless I'm made to sign an NDA that covers the pre-interview process, too. (And knowing Apple, anything's possible.)
Hell, I got scared on Friday when I never got the e-mail with the PDFs attached that I was promised. I started fearing that maybe they saw me posting on here (I had at one point mentioned visiting Mac web sites -- "forums," specifically), and changed their mind. Turns out it was DSL problems (the person who interviewed me is working from home, I guess, on a VPN), and I got the application today. Yes, as you might imagine, even the job application carries the standard Apple elegance. They have a couple of unique elements, too -- for instance, under each job listing in the "previous employment" section, they ask, "Could you have remained in the employment of this company if you so desired?" And the standard optional Affirmative Action page is titled "Invitation to Self Identify." Elegant.
They also sent along a release form seeking my permission for them to get a credit history on me. Is this starting to be par for the course? I had to do this for a former job, but that was at a brokerage firm, so I figured it was unique to that industry.
Anyhoo, the in-person interview is on Wednesday evening at the Newark Hilton. Ooooh, Newark! Classy!